Lit Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)

Does it really make sense to have multipurpose warships? If you're lugging around a bunch of troops and walkers, then you're going to be that much less effective when it comes to fighting enemy cruisers and battleships.

 

The ISD was a very good well-rounded ship and going by armaments only it could easily handle most ships from the preceding era, the Clone Wars. Its only flaw was lack of point defense.

 

One thing that caught my attention - "regular" TIEs with proportionally smaller wings.

Now, given that the proportionally smaller wings in Rebels used to be "official difference" before being retconned as "artistic licence" - now that we've seen them in live-action - are the Rebels TIEs going to be retconned back to "real-in-universe size difference"?

 

When you say "Regular" do you mean that dual-pod one? I was thinking that, but it looks like it's limited just to that, the actual TIE/lns are unaffected.

 

True - I've been rewatching it a few times and it's only that one where, compared to the cockpit, the wings look undersized. I thought at first it was noticable on the ships flanking it too - but rewatches don't seem to show it.

Their windows at least, look redder than those of a regular TIE - but I don't know if that's just lighting or not.

 

There was a new, longer trailer, it shows that new TIE with the extra pod as boasting additional lasers. I assume its something akin to that ridiculous double-balled single-winged TIE with the turbolaser from the TIE fighter game. Oh and that Imperial "U-wing" Mel from Mel's Miniatures was talking about is in there.
Trailer if you're interested.

 

Normal TIEs and a new one


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I hear it's called a TIE gunship, the cockpit looks proportionally much larger, this might explain why Iron_Lord thought the wings were smaller.

 

Not to digress from the awesomeness of the Solo trailer...

Are there other hangers on the ISD besides the main ventral hanger cluster?? Something on the back of the command tower?? I seem to remember Wedge landing in one in Starfighters of Adumar. As well....I thing that a Tector would have some sort of shuttle hanger since it does not have the main hanger of the ISDs.

 

Probably depends on how max/minmalist you are. If Star Destroyers usually operate alone, moving fortresses that control large regions of space, and most planets have low populations, then I can see multipurpose warships as very useful.

In large scale engagements with fleets though, it would probably be best to specialize.

 

Tectors! I'd want to see Tectors doing most of the fighting after Endor. The Empire would probably scramble its best warships to the front. The Imperial-class was better for fighting pirates. Carrier duty could be assigned to dedicated craft like the Secutor.

 

I've never understood the appeal of the Tector. So the special effects guys messed up and forgot to put a hangar on the underside of an Imperial Star Destroyer for a shot in ROTJ. Do we just ignore it and move on, the way we ignore other continuity errors? Nah, let's say that in universe the Imperials thought a Star Destroyer identical to the usual model, but without a hangar, was a good idea. How do smaller ships even board a Tector? Does it have smaller hangars just off screen? At worst it's a terrible design flaw, at best it's just a slightly different version of a pre-existing design.

It's like trying to come up with an in-universe reason for the A-wing turning into a car after it crashes into the Executor bridge.

 

That's kind of a pro from the Imperial perspective. But you're really thinking too much like BF2. Boarding is a lot easier just cutting through the hull. It happens a lot.

It's not. The Tector is designed for engagements where either carriers are unnecessary or other carriers are present. Having hangars provides weak-spots. It can be better to put all your fighters on one dedicated carrier and keeping your destroyers armored and hangarless. It's meant for specific engagements. The Imperial-class is meant for its own kind of battles.

 

I think he means how does the ship take on crew or supplies without a hangar for shuttles

 

I don't mean enemy ships, I mean how does ANYONE get on board a Tector?

I said "at worst" since it's arguable, but I don't really see the benefit when it's just a regular old Star Destroyer with one of it's attributes (carrying swarms of TIES) removed. Sure you can say "oh it's got more armor plating" or "it removes a weak spot", but it just seems like a hand wave to me.

 

Hahaha. Didn't realise you meant that. Now it doesn't make sense. What do they do? Crawl out the windows? This is quite the conundrum. The Venator has side hangars with retractable doors. Maybe the Tector has those. The hangars aren't necessarily gone; just the underside hangars.

 

The regular ISD has docking ports along the "trenches" too - we see a Gozanti dock to one in Rebels. If the Tector is basically the ISD with armour where its belly hangars were - it may benefit the same way.

 

Also, ever heard of docking ports. Tantive IV had one, the Falcon has them, even modified Nebulon-B and Nebulon-C escort frigates have them.

 

Spoiler

Two fleet junkie relevant screengrabs from the trailer, here's the link to where I found them. A very good look at the TIE Gunship above, and that Star Destroyer, but also a lot more in their trailer gallery.

 

Looks like that's an Imperial-I class ISD.

 

would guess the gunpod on that TIE is manned because of the little window. How gorgeous is the Star Destroyer though..?

 

Even with docking rings around the trench....I would think there would be a small shuttle hanger for the crew/personnel transfers. Imagine a Tector comes into a system and the captain needs to meet with a planetary governor...does he show up and have the governor send up a shuttle? Or surveying a planet...the Tector shows up and how does it put bodies on the ground?? Throw them out an airlock with vac suits and parchutes??

In ESB's added content...when Vader's shuttle landed...was it in the main hanger on the ventral surface or somewhere else.

I would think a small hanger in the aft of the command tower with space for maybe 8 to 10 assigned shuttles and some extra space in for another 2 to 4.

 

It's impossible to tell, since it cuts to the shuttle arriving in the docking bay. Somewhere on the underside - but we can't be sure exactly where.

 

Have hyperspace micro-jumps been established in canon? I was ruing The Last Jedi again today, specifically regarding the space chase and it occurred to me that the DSI could have micro-jumped around Yavin to destroy Yavin IV immediately but it didn't. I've always assumed this was Tarkin's hubris, but have hyperspace micro-jumps been established, or I'm I given TLJ too hard a time?