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On many days, I would agree with you. But how anyone can look at this and not see the complete indifference that Trump, Nielson and the Republicans in Congress have shown this and not feel emotion is beyond me. Any of them could have stopped this. Sessions is a monster. Trump just proves he doesn't give a damn about anyone that isn't himself. As to Congress, the amount of blood they have on their hands from standing idle, I hope that haunts them for the rest of their days just as I hope all of those who take money from the NRA appreciate the blood money they have accepted. This is not justice, it's not necessary. It's not anything more than cruelty for cruelty's sake and a deterrent that violates the very constitution these idiots swore on a bible to protect. Should their hands ever touch a bible again, I hope they burst into flame. They have failed on every level to protect, defend and uphold the Constitution and they have done nothing but push their own personal agendas at the expense of others. Their generally indifference to human suffering deserves them a spot in hell should it exist. And for these people, most especially Mitch McConnell, Jeff Sessions, and Trump, I truly hope hell does exist and it's one where Hillary wins and all their worst nightmares play out for all eternity. And Trump is poor and bald.

 

I wish only bad things for Trump and his ilk, even people who now regret voting for him, because we saw all this coming. If you deluded yourself into thinking he could be good, you deserve all the bad stuff happening to you. Its the dumbest thing Americans have ever done. Ever.

 

I also struggle with the notion of the love of God and the existence of hell, but it is people like the ones currently in control who make me wonder if it might be possible that there is something like hell, though probably not of the literal fire and devils people picture. Such callous, willful cruelty to those who are already suffering so terribly and all to make money or just to make a point. Some of these people know they're evil; they have no illusions about what they're doing - the science of climate change is totally clear, but they take money from polluters and dismantle regulations, knowing that they're causing suffering on a massive scale; they continue to push an economic agenda that has been discredited for decades, knowing full well that it will concentrate even more wealth in their coffers while the poor starve; they store up more money than they could spend in a hundred years while others want for daily food. And the absolutely cruelty of what's happened on the border show that the willful hatefulness extends down to the very personal. They're willing to cause suffering on a massive scale, yes, but they're not just interested in the big picture - they truly care about making every individual suffer. Their hatred and misanthropy is personal. These people aren't stupid. Or, well, some of them are, but none of them are so stupid as to think the things they're doing will help anyone but themselves. Something in me believes there has to be punishment on a cosmic scale for people like this, people who are just willfully, knowingly . . . evil. I'm a lot more comfortable with eternal punishment for people that lay waste to hundreds of a millions of lives because they crave luxury and power than I am with eternal punishment for being *gasp* gay! But enough from me. There's been a lot of debate about what's been going on down on the border and I'm going to let someone else speak for me.

He took a child and set him in the midst of them, and when he had taken him into his arms, he said, "Whosoever shall receive one of such children in my name receiveth me; and whosoever shall receive me, receiveth not me, but Him who sent me . . . and whosoever shall offend one of these little ones . . . it is better for him that a millstone was hanged about his neck and he was cast into the depth of the sea."

Maybe sometimes true love for those who are in need and suffering means hate for those who are oppressing them. Maybe that's how words this harsh and violent can come from a man who spoke about love and compassion. All I know for sure is that there are a lot of people due to be fitted for one of these.



You know, if Jesus has any say about it. Not that he does these days. Not that he does. Easy to see why not.

 

Oh, it gets better than that...because in the twisted, perverted, upside-down conservative interpretation of the Bible, it's the liberals who are going to burn in hell and the conservatives who are the righteous ones. But you knew that already.

A Hillary Clinton presidency doesn't even count as a punishment for these people. These guys deserve to live under the Taliban.

 

I think it's absolutely useless and even counterproductive to wish damnation upon the Trump cabal. If hate is fought with hate, that's the way towards violent conflict, and violent conflict always only exacerbates feelings of hate.
Let me quote some Jesus, too. A peculiarly superstitious man, who believed the wildest claims, but also one from whose words a true and deep understanding of human nature can be gleaned, a compassionate soul - and I think it's this understanding and compassion that makes him memorable.

"Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you"

 

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Nice lady.

 

not surprising.
Trump is tweeting this morning that twitter is going to get rid of fake accounts.

odd since most of his fans on twitter and facebook hide behind fake accounts.

 

I said that both sides trade in fear mongering . The left likes to peddle the narrative that the russians won Trump the election and he's their puppet , collusion etc.

never denied that both sides say there was interference but thats a vague term . No-one really knows what went on but the narrative becomes accepted pretty much as a meme anyway:Russia fixed it for Trump to win .

LOL! "you people" .

I'm no fan of Trump .
I'm saying there's fear mongering and propaganda aplenty , or do you think its only the right that does it ?

 

You can chalk up the word interference or meddling as vague terms, but if the government takes the time to investigate, and multiple agencies and the Senate speak out about it, someone with half a brain would tend to lend it a little bit more credibility than silly memes. Your insinuation is that the findings of a Senate investigation and the conclusion of multiple agencies charged with the security of the USA are the same as the trolling agenda of some basement-dwelling loser making a meme and posting it on Reddit for upvotes.

 

Both sides have their fare share of fear mongering.

But all the evidence right now points to not only Russian involvement in the election, but with Russian involvement directly with members of Trump's campaign.

You can't just say that both sides are bad and not take a side. Because doing so is taking a side by equating facts and evidence with conspiracies and lies.

 

What evidence has been presented that indicates direct participation of the Trump campaign in Russia's social media propaganda? The only thing I can think of is the infamous meeting Trump Jr. had, but that could easily be chalked up to him being a complete moron.

 

Russia is the least of our problems. Donald Trump is an evil mother effer that needs to go away. Period.
You want evidence of that? Read his tweets and watch his speeches at his klan meetings, I mean rallies.

 

The worst thing Donald Trump has done is empower racists and bigots. They feel this way because they believe, as we do, that Trump is one of them.

 

There's the whole Cambridge Analytica thing, but that's more entanglement than direct participation. You can't really catch Trump on that. I'm pretty certain Mueller has more, but until it's out - yeah, it isn't much. For now, it's all just guilt by association. Not enough.
In fact, it's all so vague and secondary that I fear whatever Mueller produces will only deepen the dividing lines.

 

Here is the thing.

If Americans where stupid enough to be dupped by Russia Facebook campaigns then that's America fault for being stupid. Get a better education system.
And end of the day the USA got a taste of its own well deserved medicine seeing as it likes to meddle in oversee politics , most of the time far more aggressively.

However if Trump is in the financial clutches of Russia and is compromised? He needs to go.

 

This.

 

There's no doubt in my mind he's indebted to Russia. He wouldn't kiss up to Putin so much if he didn't owe him. Now I feel he won due to voter suppression, but I know he's compromised and so is a lot of the GOP and the NRA.

 

Well let's have a look at Darla Shine the wife of the new White House communications director. Perhaps she is a source of good for someone who has a controversial past and we have nothing to worry about.

Oh crap

• “Just singing to one of my jams ‘Golddigger’ by Kanye West when I realized If I sing along to the verse ‘Broke N—-‘ I might be a racist,” @darlashine tweeted in July 2015. (The tweet spelled out the N-word.)
• “Al Sharpton demanding kid Rock denounce Rebel Flag yet Sharpton not demanding Rappers remove N word from music.”
• “I have never said the N word out loud and my white children have never either. Blacks stop using the N word!”
• “Funny how critics calling to ban Gone With the Wind, Jefferson Memorial, but no talk of banning the N word or Rap songs with N word in it.”

• “If white chicks can’t perm their hair – black chicks can’t go blonde,” @darlashine tweeted in August 2015 in response to an article on “Cultural Colonization.”
• “The new stand in President at #mizzou is black. Will every white College President have to be replaced,” said a 2015 tweet.
• “1 out of 10 black boys has autism,” said a February 2016 tweet.

 

I don't see her defending Dylan roof. I think she has a point. A flag doesn't make you go out and kill people.
But a drug with side effects that can cause altered mood states might.

I pretty much agree with all those points except the last two.

Everyone should stop using the N word and let it die.
And if rappers put it in songs then they can't bitch if fans sing the lyrics.

And I don't believe in the concept of cultural appropriation.
In a multicultural society we should share culture not segregate.

 

No one's denying he is a white supremacist and the murders where racially motivated.

But as someone with a back ground in neuropharmcacology I do have some concerns on medication too. That may have been what pushed him to turn his raceist views into murder. Without that factor he may just have stayed a racist sick rather than become raciest murdering word that sounds like hunt.