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Starkeiller Registered: Dec '04	Date Posted: 5/4/05 2:55pm Subject: RE: Telika exei plaka na miseis to STAR WARS
	^ Ki o Goisgounis, allwste, Ellinas itan. Tha prepei na niwtoume ethnika yperifanoi pou i hwra mas gennise enan tetoion megalo kallitehni... E kyrie Gousgouni? -----signature----- "Ston Germano, echeis tin Dynami!" ~Diafimisi gia Germano
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Obi_one_and_only Registered: Jul '01	Date Posted: 5/7/05 7:16am Subject: RE: Telika exei plaka na miseis to STAR WARS
	Teeeleis na se kano basher? Ela na deis ti orai pou einai ti kala! Ela na se matho na miseis kai na vrizeis ton £uca$! Min fovasai tha se kano ego venteta! Nai! Kai meta apo afti tin kallitexniki enarksi, ksekiname. A few weeks ago I happened to catch part of ESB on TV. It had been years since I'd seen the film and was charmed all over again. Sure, it was a bit cheesy in parts, yet at the same time there was such dignity... such respect and consideration given to the characters and their situations. When I thought about it, I realized once more how starkly contrasted the true Star Wars films and their vaguely related "prequel" spin-offs are. It's like night and day. On the one hand, you've got the wise old Yoda dispensing meaningful instruction. And now, you've got CGI Yoda jumping and spinning like an insane toad and trying to steal some guy's Pepsi at a fast food restaurant. How did it get this bad? I just can't fathom it. Returning to the topic of commercials if I may, last night I happened to catch a new one for EIII. I'm guessing it's forbidden to discuss it at length here, so I'll simply say that my worst fear about "The Duel" was confirmed in one nauseating split-second clip. Funny how the advertisements actually make me want to see this movie less (if that's even possible at this point). Moving on, Hayden is supposed to be on the Tonight Show tonight. Usually I leave Leno on in the backround while I do other things at night, even if I don't care an ounce about his guests. But not tonight. I don't have anything against the guy, I just can't stand to listen to him yammer on about how "cool" and "fun" it was for him to "play" "Darth Vader." £uca$: Sto pa mia kai sto pa dio, sto pa xilies deeeka dio o Hayden einai MA/\AKAS, ego tha mouna kaliteros Vader! O Yoda tora. Ax, ksereis poses fores ksipnisa ti nixta kai alaksa sovarko? Ksereis! Kai tora exasa kai aftin tin apolafsi... 53 \|\/\|l50 £uca$! The marketing is always a mess. The only one I've actually liked so far was the Chewbacca ringtone one because, even though I find the idea generally offensive, I got a kick out of seeing all the old characters back together. Ahh, the OT. KSero, to exo peis polles fores dto £uca$, alla alli mia dden vlaptei! I honestly thought that The Phantom Menace would have been so much better if he'd given the old fans a little bit of what they wanted, in just topping and tailing the whole new trilogy. The film starts in the Falcon, and all the old guys are in there with beards and Chewie's a bit grey. And they've got a little place to go – they're flying in Hyperspace and one of Han's kids goes 'what happened in the beginning, Uncle Luke?' and he goes 'well…' And then the story unfolds. Just to see those guys again would have been fabulous. eee? Basically, I remember it was always very mystical and priest-like. Monk-like, the fighting Monk. And then the first time you see them at work at the beginning of the Phantom Menace, you were like, 'ohmigod, these guys were **ing pimp!' They took their sabers and they did that you always wanted to see them do, like drive it into steel and cut open, like just taking the top off a can. Amazing *. And more hardcore. Yeah, I was like seeing that! And then again, and again, and again... Chopping off "roger-roger" drois, wow. AIMA!!! Thelo AIMA! Giati den mou to edoses MA./\AKA £uca$?!?!?!?!?!?! Oh, yeah, the Jedi Outcast series is fantastic, I can gush about it for days! I read in one magazine that they should make it fully interactional, a VR experience, where you use the Force and a lightsaber in a near life-like enviroment. You know what I mean, holding an ACTUAL saber hilt on your hand, while your moves are transferred to the game... Kati tetoio den ginetai ka stis tsontes? TOn vazeis sto xeri sou kai fantazesai ti gomena sta tessera kai arxizeis: Pao ligo mpros, pao ligo piso... Fortunately, I didn't watch long enough to see any of the gaudy SE garbage. After my little hiatus from the franchise, I find that the tarnishing of the classics only makes me more outraged than before. These films were freakin' classics! Why'd Lucas have to go and degrade them with such nonsense? I can accept the fact that he wants to change them, but to deprive the world of the original versions is outrageous. What ever happened to Lucas's passion for preserving cinema history? Guess that doesn't apply to his work. Classic hypocrisy. Worthy of Webster's. Ipokriti! Farisaie! NA kaeis stin kolasi (ligo amerikaniko thriskeftiko pnevma den vlaptei, e?) Speaking of movies that actually look good, I was in my local theatre today and saw an 8' tall, 3-dimensional cardboard stand advertising The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. It was beautiful. I unabashedly stood in front of it and stared for several minutes. The front of it is like a doorway, and through the doorway you see, stretching to far away, fields of snow, and on the farthest field rose a castle of ice. I was already excited for this movie, but this just made me more so! Contrast that with the all-but-uniformly repellent advertising for that other movie. To pou lete piga se ena site, den thimamai pio kai eixan diafimisi gia ti ne tainia to Mega Gousgouni: H Aliki sto peziko. 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Kai mia klassiki ataka: ROTS will make only between $200 and $250 million because Darth Vader (the suit, not that punk Hayden) is hardly in the movie at all. Lucas’s advertising for ROTS (with Vader plastered all over) is nothing less than an outright lie. Actually, I'm thinking that ending AOTC with Anakin already gone to the darkside and Obi-Wan vowing to bring him back would have been a good way to mirror the episodes!* Ena post enos agnostou fan: as i have said before, i hate star wars fans. i hate them because they refuse to even try to enjoy these movies as they are. they have to overjudge them. we didnt do this with the originals so why do you do it with these? because you are all sad people who reinforce your misery in the one thing that used to bring you joy. Oi apantiseis ton B.A.S.H.E.R.'s: Shorter fellow SW fan: "Consume. Don't question. Just consume." You..will..love..the prequels. Having an entire film featuring the Fallen Anakin would have been effective both emotionally and dramatically. But, he had Ten Years between I and II to work out his issues, which is why I have such difficulty buying Anakin's attitude problems in Clones. Maybe if the first steps towards The Fall began at the end Episode I with an older Anakin.... Ah, the beginning of the original STAR WARS..I can still get teary-eyes just watching it, recapturing that feeling of awesomeness that has been with me since the day I became a fan, aged seven or thereabouts. The original STAR WARS is so filled with the right kind of spirit, nothing comes close to it in that regard, and in this way the original is my favorite even though I have claimed ESB to be the best for years. But all the pure magic, the essence, the beauty, is in this movie. Adventure! Excitement! A Star Wars fan craves these things, George. Na parafraso enan ellina fan: Apo to £uca$ pou skeftetai mono ta lefta, ti perimeneis? Ego an ekana to STAR WARS, tha to edina tsampa! Nai, tsampa! Na thimithoume ligo kai to Mega Levent: Kathotane o £uca$ kai ladone kai notheve ta periodika kai evgaza kali tin PT! KALAMIA STA MATIA TOU!NAAAAA!!! ZOO!!!!!NAAAAA!!! NA PETHA... ZITO APO.... PROTI FORA ZITO APO TO THEO NA ME AKOUSEI!!!!!!! NAPETHANEI!!!!! Kai meta oloi eseis tha pate na deite afti ti malakia kai tha vgeite apo to simena kai tha lete na mou vgoun ta matia! NA min ksana exo stisi!!!! ZOA!!!!!!!NAAAAA!!!!!! Either idea would have been better than the clumsy mess that actually ended up on screen. An older Anakin for EPI seems to be a universal request among most folks here. As for the fall being in EPII, I think it was the Tusken scene. Of course, it doesn't make sense due to its placement in the movie. Plus, everything kind of switches back to happy-go-lucky-newlyweds right afterwards so the scene loses its impact. From that point on Anakin should be different, but for some reason it doesn't really show up in the movie. An outline, a flow chart, or a timeline needed to be forced on the folks at LFL. NAIAIAIAIAI!!!! Ego eprepe na imoun ipefthinos gia tin PT!!! Kai epeidi variemai na sinexiso, TRELAREEES GIA SAS!!!!11! -----signature----- Soundwave superior, Constructicons inferior. Secretum finis Africae manus supra idolum age primum et septimum de quatuor You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me. I am a liar.
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Obi_one_and_only Registered: Jul '01	Date Posted: 5/7/05 8:43am Subject: RE: Telika exei plaka na miseis to STAR WARS
	EKTAKTH ANAKOINOSH: In other news, some of my kids (at work) were in line for a few days to buy tickets for 'Revenge of the Sith' and I let them buy two for me (and my girlfriend). Only yesterday when studying the ticket did I notice it is for the midnight opening. This means that I will only have four hours of sleep that night before work - although I think it will be zero hours, because I will need to process all the mistakes, and continuity mess-ups. -----signature----- Soundwave superior, Constructicons inferior. Secretum finis Africae manus supra idolum age primum et septimum de quatuor You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me. I am a liar.
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Obi_one_and_only Registered: Jul '01	Date Posted: 5/8/05 8:01am Subject: RE: Telika exei plaka na miseis to STAR WARS
	Since you're saying the story was actually contributed by the art department, I don't want to hear you saying that Anakin's turn doesn't work because of Lucas. It's now the fault of the art department. In fact you just reinforced the long standing basher argument yourself. We've always said Lucas didn't invest enough in the story. Hell, he didn't invest anything to the story of the PT. It's still his fault no matter how you spin it. Plot and characters are nothing more than a means to an end for Lucas now. Post production is all that Lucas really cares about anymore. I remember an old skit on SNL with Mike Myers many years ago. "Welcome to all things scottish." Just put Lucas in Myers role. "Welcome to all things CGI. If it's not CGI, IT'S CRAP!" ********, thank you for the Narnia link! I'm all over that trailer, in spite of the fact that it's blurry. Things are looking very, very good for Narnia. If only the ROTS trailers got my blood pumping so. EE? If only the ROTS trailers got my blood pumping so kai pou thes na estelne aima i kardia sou otan evlepes to PoutS? Kai gia na mi ksexniomaste ROTS will make only between $200 and $250 million because Darth Vader (the suit, not that punk Hayden) is hardly in the movie at all. Lucas’s advertising for ROTS (with Vader plastered all over) is nothing less than an outright lie. However, if you believe that Lucas is arrogant now, just wait'll next Monday morning when it's obvious he's just made one of the biggest successes of his entire career. ROTS is so well-done by Lucas and there's so much anticipation about it, it is going to FLATTEN all box office competition for weeks to come. He's already getting some of the best reviews of his career, and he's going to crush plenty of box office records with this movie. The guy has done something right. That's what they said about TPM and look how mixed its looked back on. It's too early to say anything definitive right now, so you might not want to get too ahead of yourself. They've said that about every Star Wars prequel, "Oh, this is gonna be the one," it's all happening like it did back with AOTC and TPM. The early reviews were positive, but once more people see it, it's gonna be more indicative. Just saying, mind what you say, it may very well make you look foolish in the future. Oi B.A.S.H.E.R.'s den einai xanoi na xaftoun oti MA/\AKIA vgalei o £uca$! I watched the trailer for THE LION, THE WITCH & THE WARDROBE on television last night on a good screen. It looked a) awesome b) like Lord of the Rings Eipame: allo o xrisos (LOTR) kai allo ta skata (£uca$) caved in and watched the ROTS trailer. How is this the greatest Star Wars trailer ever? I didn't care about it at all. I just didn't care. At least I got excited when I watched the trailers for AOTC and TPM. And almost everything is revealed in the trailer. It just smacks of desperation. The music was also weak. I really don't understand what's so great about that trailer. Yeah, some of the visuals were nice. So what? There has been nothing about the trailers, pictures, spoilers, and script that has made me look forward to ROTS. AOTC really killed it for me. ROTS may be the best prequel, it may even be a good movie, but it's too late. Indeed, excellent AOTC bashing! Ahh, it's good to be back in the Sanctuary. You know, I'm of the belief that it's been all down hill since TPM. Some say AOTC was an improvement, but I personally don't think so. For all its flaws, I do think TPM is at least a fun movie. AOTC, on the other hand, is the definition of monotony. It's one of the most soulless and empty productions I've ever laid eyes on. I have a feeling EIII may at least be slightly better in the technical areas and won't be quite as boring. My impression is that it trumps even AOTC in weak storytelling, shameless pandering, CGI excess, and general offensiveness to common sense, though. Good news everyone!! Revenge of the Sith has more than 4600 effects shots. More than any other film ever made. This is what Star Wars is about now. Nai re seis. To STAR WARS prepei na einai kalitero apo tis Arxaioi Tragikoi (Asxilo, Sofokli kai Foskolo) AOTC. What was Lucas thinking when he came up with this whole assassination thing? Nute Gunray wants Padmé dead. So Nute gets Dooku to kill Padmé. Dooku puts his best man on it: Jango. Jango, a bounty hunter (who isn't really a bounty hunter but an assassin, and he's not even an assassin, but we call him a bounty hunter, because he looks like Boba Fett) hires Zam WeSellToys to kill Padmé. Zam plants a bomb to kill Padmé, but kills her handmaiden decoy instead, who apologizes for having failed while she actually succeeded in getting killed instead of Padmé. Padmé suspects that Dooku is behind the attack, because...Dooku is mentioned as the mysterious leader of the separatists in the opening crawl, plus he's an ex-jedi, plus it's Christopher Lee in a cape. Then we get some talking about politics and such, and the jedi won't start an investigation, because why investigate an assassination attempt on some senator? Then Zam uses a droid, which cuts a hole in the huge window of Padmé's bedroom, and releases worms which crawl into the room, where Padmé happens to be, and she happens to be sleeping, and Artoo happens to be asleep too, despite that he's supposed to be on guard. Zam fails and - after some arm cutting in a bar - is killed, revealing her to be a shapeshifter, but she didn't try any shapeshifting to get away from the jedi. Obviously this assassination attempt finally woke up the Jedi, and now there will be an investigation, and Padmé needs to use public transportation, where she will travel together with loads of unknown people, and go to a location where she won't be found: her home planet, where she will first visit the queen, and in deleted scenes even her parents, before she will sit in her summerhouse doing nothing, except being sexy. Handmaiden Dormé will now dress up as the decoy and pretend to be Padmé, so that any assassin may still think that Padmé is on Coruscant. Despite the fact that everybody is supposed to believe that senator Padmé is still on Coruscant, Jar Jar will now take her place in the senate. But not to worry, the assassin has decided to simply give up and go home to his identical pointless clone son. Obviously he is not clever enough to figure out the truth, and to follow Padmé. No, his trip to Coruscant was 'fairly successful'. Great writing. How does George do it? -----signature----- Soundwave superior, Constructicons inferior. Secretum finis Africae manus supra idolum age primum et septimum de quatuor You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me. I am a liar.
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Obi_one_and_only Registered: Jul '01	Date Posted: 5/8/05 9:11am Subject: RE: Telika exei plaka na miseis to STAR WARS
	I think that's why Lucas hasn't been trying too hard lately. He just plugs in the requisite explosions and voila! Box office smash. ROTS will make only between $200 and $250 million because Darth Vader (the suit, not that punk Hayden) is hardly in the movie at all. Lucas’s advertising for ROTS (with Vader plastered all over) is nothing less than an outright lie. This feels exactly like May 2002. Truth to tell, I don't think ROTS will settle down into its proper place until late this year... ...just in time for Lucas to get mauled by Peter Jackson one more time. Eipame, allo skata (£uca$) kai allo xrisos (Jackson) ROTS will make only between $200 and $250 million because Darth Vader (the suit, not that punk Hayden) is hardly in the movie at all. Lucas’s advertising for ROTS (with Vader plastered all over) is nothing less than an outright lie. We don't know how the tide can turn. This is set to be a darker film, and many who gave poor reviews the first two times are getting more or less what they wanted out of ROTS. While this may gain the film support, it could stand to lose some from reviewers who liked the first two and feel this film deviates from the "Star Wars feel," so chances are, this could very well turn out to be like AOTC all over again. Only time will tell. Scenes 132-140 Obi-Wan gets his saber back from commander Cody, and joins the battle. Cody receives Order 66 from Sidious, and orders his men to blast Obi-Wan, who falls to the bottom of a water filled sinkhole On several location throughout the galaxy clones (including Clone number 1138) get the personal message from Sidious to execute Order 66. It's silly that Sidious personally talks to every clone commander. Wouldn't he be busy for a whole week, contacting all the clones all over the galaxy? I hope that in the movie we'll just get a montage without the talking. For the rest this is pretty good. Yoda senses the death of the other jedi. The battle appears to be over and Wookiees are stacking up destroyed droids. The clones then kill some more Jedi (apparently Yoda was not the only Jedi on Kashyyyk), and also on other worlds. Scenes 135-142 Sidious orders another commander to do Order 66 (we get it by now, George), this time the commander close to where Yoda is. On Kashyyyk a battle rages on. I thought that a few scenes ago the battle was over. I guess that was another battle on Kashyyyk. A bit weird. Yoda of course transforms into Yo-Da-Man and jumps up and lightsaber slashes the clones. Wookiees Tarfull and Chewbacca help him. Chewie picks up Yoda and carries him away...I guess this is where we get the stuff with Yoda on Chewie's back and Chewie doing the Tarzan yell. Thanks George. This sucks. Scenes 143-145 In the temple Anakin and clones kill Jedi, and Anakin finds some kids and ignites his saber... This is supposed to be serious and dark and scary, but moments before we had the stupid Chewie and Yo-Da-Man stuff... Scenes 146-149 Padmé is crying as she sees smoke rising from the temple, and at the temple Bail Organa checks out what is going on, but is send away by clones. He sees a young jedi padawan fight clones and get killed. The name of the padawan: Zett Jucassa. Yes, little Lucas Junior... Bail is shot at and escapes. Whatever. Scene 150 Obi-Wan has escaped but is still somewhere in the city, with some CG droids and monsters... Whatever. Scene 151-153 Yoda, Chewie, and Tarfull fight some clones and escape, and Yoda had covered himself with mud and takes a bath... then rides on the back of a large, flying insect. Hopefully cut. Yoda says goodbye to his good friends Chewbacca and Tarfull and takes off with a Wookiee escape pod. Such bad, pointless stuff. The whole Wookiee stuff was so pointless. An excuse to get Yoda away from Coruscant while Anakin went evil. The battle scenes may look great, but it's clone wars cartoon stuff. Not well integrated into the ROTS story at all. And now Chewie and Yoda are old buddies. That's just stupid. How small is the star wars galaxy anyway?! Scenes 154-160 Bail Organa gets in his Tantive 4 and meets up with captain Antilles, and they take off with a Jedi homing beacon. Obi-Wan escapes in Grievous' ship, and is contacted by Bail, who has just rescued Yoda. Whatever. The Bail stuff may be a bit too much, but whatever. Just like the whole Kashyyyk stuff, the Grievous and Utapau battle stuff is more clone wars cartoon material than a good, solid part of the ROTS story. Obi-Wan needed to get away from Coruscant, so he got some pointless action scenes. He didn't learn anything important or anything that helped move the plot forward. If Obi-Wan and Yoda had been accidentally locked in inside the basement of the jedi temple it wouldn't have mattered for the plot. We wouldn't have missed anything except some effects sequences. Simfono. Kai sti Jedi xestra na kleinontan, den tha xaname kai tipota. I just saw the ifilm clips. When Palpatine attacks the four Jedi he flies throught the air barrel-rolling/corkscrewing about 4 times before landing. George Lucas, can I introduce you to subtlety and restraint? Lucas must have thought that Bouncing Yoda was SO cool he must get Palpatine doing it as well. It would have been so much better if Palps had just walked calmly towards the Jedi. It seems that character nuance is ALWAYS sacrificed for CG assisted action these days That is just not Palpatine. And the AOTC fight just wasn't Yoda. Lucas has a staggering ignorance of his own characters. Theye are all fair game for CGI mayhem. Also in the clips is some awful exaggerated Yoda speak. Obi Wan says "Anakin won't let me down". Instead of a dramatic, doomladen "I hope you're right" we have Yoda saying: "Right, I hope you are". Crap. Prosexte ti frasi: Lucas has a staggering ignorance of his own characters. Theye are all fair game for CGI mayhem. I can't believe that's real. I'm actually laughing out loud at this thing. Is Palpatine a competitive diver? That is beyond silly-looking. PROSOXI SPOILER -----signature----- Soundwave superior, Constructicons inferior. Secretum finis Africae manus supra idolum age primum et septimum de quatuor You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me. I am a liar.
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Starkeiller Registered: Dec '04	Date Posted: 5/8/05 11:24am Subject: RE: Telika exei plaka na miseis to STAR WARS - Date Edited: 5/8/05 11:32am (4 edits total) Edited By: Starkeiller
	^ Em, Obi... Gia plisiase na sou pw kati st' afti... oi alloi. Re prosehe! Afto ehei polla spoiler, ki egw den tolmisa na katsw na ta diavasw ola, sto prwto frikara... Eipame, min to parahesoume kai ta mathoum' ola... Vaze kammia proeidopoiisi, o Ker-Soth th' aftoktonisei! Twra, mhm clears throat, tha ithela na pw tin tapeini mou gnwmi gia tin gif-tia : AW, FCKIN' AWSOME!!!!!!!* WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! O Theos den perpataei... PETAEI!!! OUAOU!!! OUAOU!!! Ehw meinei brosta stin othoni... O SIDIOUS EINAI THEOS, PANW TOUS TA 'KANAN OI TZENTAI M' AFTIN TIN TOYMBA!!! OYAOU!!! STO SINEMA THA 'NAI K*VLA!!! AAAA, YSTERIA!!! -----signature----- "Ston Germano, echeis tin Dynami!" ~Diafimisi gia Germano
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Obi_one_and_only Registered: Jul '01	Date Posted: 5/8/05 11:40am Subject: RE: Telika exei plaka na miseis to STAR WARS - Date Edited: 5/8/05 11:49am (1 edits total) Edited By: Obi_one_and_only
	Exeis dikio, alla me afta pou kanei o £uca$, xano ti logiki mou! Lucas quote: 'Now when you see Darth Vader walk into that ship at the beginning of Episode IV, you'll go, "Oh, that poor guy! He's still in the suit!"' ROTS will make only between $200 and $250 million because Darth Vader (the suit, not that punk Hayden) is hardly in the movie at all. Lucas’s advertising for ROTS (with Vader plastered all over) is nothing less than an outright lie. where did you read that ROTS has 4600 effects shots? I thought it was something like 2100. In either case, that's way, way too many. (The 1977 SW film has 360 effects shots.) Ego ama ekana ti PT, den tha evaza katholou CG I wish Lucas had filmed on location. Star Wars looks great on location. For some reason he prefers to CG environs that are found naturally anyway. NO location filming for ROTS. Gia stasou re file, den paraponiosaste kamposes selides piso oti o Naboo thimizei Anagennisiaki Italia? TOra ti thes loaction filming? Saw that Narnia trailer. Thanks for the link. CG Aslan? I'll take the BBC puppet over that anyday. It looks fake. ... how about using a real lion? REAL LION!!!!!1!~1 BUAHAHAHAHA!!!!111!!~1 The arena battle: There's supposed to be a dramatic build up to the arena scene, when Padme suddenly declears that she infact loves Anakin. I allways thought it would have been more dramatic if they simply had them (Anakin,Obi and Padme) stand there and then order a fireing squadron to excecute them. And then at the last moment the Jedi would come and rescue them. But now it's like a bad Austin Powers joke: Nute: Why don't we just shoot them? Dooku: Oh no! I think it's far more cruel if we let them drown in nausating cgi sequence and have these silly monsters chase them around the arena. And then we'll just assume that they died. And about the Jedi's; The way they enter the arena is simply retarted.(And I'm not even mentioning the fact that they had no plan what so ever) Here they are; keepers of the peace practically provoking people to attack them. They strike poses going "Damn I look good with the lightsaber" and "This party is over" Instead of trying to disarm the situation. To me it seemed like they were begging to start a fight. And then during the fight I could have sworn that I saw a few of them smileing. They where having fun! Unbelievable. Did you ever think that Luke enjoyed killing people with his lightsaber? (Or robots for that matter). Obviously this assassination attempt finally woke up the Jedi, and now there will be an investigation, and Padmé needs to use public transportation, where she will travel together with loads of unknown people, and go to a location where she won't be found: Add to this silliness that after a hectic-death-defying chase through the cities---without actually really SEEING Zam in the first place, they chase her/it and capture her. Well, after catching Zam, and she is killed, they look up and SEE Jango flying off with his backpack!!! First, the SEE him, and he's not going any faster than a dang speeder... the speeder Anakin borrowed is parked only a few meters away---WHY DON'T THEY JUST CONTINUE THE CHASE!!!??? I mean, if they had that much luck with Zam who had a bigger lead on them, they shouldn't have ANY TROUBLE with catching up with Jango. Sheesh! Akoute tin orgi enos apogoitevmenou fan? ROTS will make only between $200 and $250 million because Darth Vader (the suit, not that punk Hayden) is hardly in the movie at all. Lucas’s advertising for ROTS (with Vader plastered all over) is nothing less than an outright lie. there are people who believe Star Wars should be a PG franchise. To them, it's worked for five films, so they might not be too pleased with one that isn't in the same spirit, where the franchise stayed above the use of gratuitous violence to make a point. I'm not saying they're right or wrong, I'm just saying they're out there, and it's possible that where ROTS gains support, it could lose it there too. I can't believe that gif. That is terrible. I have an even harder time believing reviewers liking stuff like that. ROTS will make only between $200 and $250 million because Darth Vader (the suit, not that punk Hayden) is hardly in the movie at all. Lucas’s advertising for ROTS (with Vader plastered all over) is nothing less than an outright lie. It took 20 years to build the Death Star?! Nai re seis. Ego fantazomouna oti vgike o superduperuberkewl Vader (the suit not that punk Heyden ) eipe BANG! kai egine to DS... ROTS will make only between $200 and $250 million because Darth Vader (the suit, not that punk Hayden) is hardly in the movie at all. Lucas’s advertising for ROTS (with Vader plastered all over) is nothing less than an outright lie. -----signature----- Soundwave superior, Constructicons inferior. Secretum finis Africae manus supra idolum age primum et septimum de quatuor You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me. I am a liar.
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Starkeiller Registered: Dec '04	Date Posted: 5/8/05 12:25pm Subject: RE: Telika exei plaka na miseis to STAR WARS
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Obi_one_and_only Registered: Jul '01	Date Posted: 5/10/05 5:06am Subject: RE: Telika exei plaka na miseis to STAR WARS
	Ah, but I've always said that ROTS will have a huge opening weekend. I think it will be bad word-of-mouth ("No Vader!") that will kill ROTS. I think each week will pull in only half of what the previous week brought in, something like this: week 1: $120 million week 2: $60 million week 3: $30 million week 4: $15 million week 5: $7 million week 6: $3 million week 7: $1 million and only peanuts after that Total: $236 million But who knows? Perhaps George Lucas and I will be surprised. <<shrugs>> Re: OT characters in the PT, wasn't Bib Fortuna with Jabba before the pod race in TPM? I'm not sure because blood was gushing from my eyes by that point, but if so that'd be 15. It's actually easier to count the OT main characters that aren't in the PT (barring any spoilery surprises).[/i [i]Lucas : "The problem is that the fans just want Darth Vader to run around with a lighsaber killing everyone. Even in episode I they just wanted Darth killing people, and they were extremely disappointed." Sigh He really has got no idea has he. How's that for patronizing. A r e£uca$... Na min ksereis ti thene oi fans... No, I only wanted a series of films as good as your previous efforts, and that didn't try and take every opporunity to screw them over. You're not the first to be disheartened by that quote. To me, that completely summarized how out of touch Lucas is with his fans. The tragic irony of that statement is that he's giving us just that in AOTC and ROTS, except not in the Vader costume George is always over-the-top with the over-simplification, "WE WANT MORE VADER KILLING KIDS"!!!? Not so much George.... We want a nice, natural progression from being a good Jedi to pushing the limits to doing the wrong things for the "right reasons" to being the evil Darth Vader. The problem is that the character fast forwarded past "pushing the limits" to outright evil in the blink of an eye. How can he not get it? We need the back drop of the Clone Wars to make sense of Anakin's fall. We need to see his training and trials to get a sense of where things went wrong earlier. Of course, we want things to tie to the OT in a clever fassion. We need character progression actually built into the story, not added as after thoughts in pickup shots and CGI tweaks. An outline, a timeline, a story board, a script, etc... are these too much to ask for? He sounds like he favors this thing called artistic restraint and pure storytelling and integrity, but the prequels have ignored that and have become an over-the-top mess, violating and contradicting here and there and crammed with things to push the right buttons on certain people. "This party's over" -- such as terrible 80s action movie cliche has still managed to find its way into SW. This junky line would've never been in ESB. There is nothing in ESB that so flagrantly plays to the audience like that. But lines like these, those affectionate winks to the audience are found aplenty in the PT. I'm glad Lucas has kept the tradition of these one-liners alive for us. Arnold Schwarzenegger would be proud. "Stick around" "You're fired." "Hasta la Vista, Baby." "You're terminated." "I'll be back!" "There have been atleast 2 or 3 calling it a masterpiece and 1 called it the best movie to be released in 25 years." That was an awful review. That guy was practically drowning in his own hyperboles. I doubt he's even seen enough films to make that statement. I don't even think he's a shade older than 16 years old judging from that review! And the other reviews, while positive, still call ROTS clumsy at times, uneven, and that certain "boring" parts still have to be tolerated. The acting and dialogue, two of the greatest thorns in these prequels, still returns in ROTS. These reviews sound like a chorus, something we've heard before in the reviews of AOTC and TPM. "Nice action, nice effects, but you have to sit through some boring scenes." No thanks, Lucas. People expect more than that. If after two films you still don't know how to turn these boring scenes into something better, people will be leaving you out to hang and dry. At this point you might as well have made Vader kill everyone in TPM and I wouldn't bat an eye. I don't care anymore! spits people will be leaving you out to hang and dry Tha se kremaso £uca$! That was an awful review. That guy was practically drowning in his own hyperboles. I doubt he's even seen enough films to make that statement. I don't even think he's a shade older than 16 years old judging from that review! How does a review that describes the reviewer pleasuring himself to his imagined image of a topless Natalie Portman count as "film criticism" of the ilk that qualifies to be on the Rotten Tomatoes tomometer? If any comments by any old blogger can now be taken into account on Rotten Tomatoes, then there's really no point in paying attention anymore. EDIT: In fact, it's clear from this "review" that the "reviewer" has NOT seen the film! He describes a scene from the film in his review that was actually cut some time ago... -----signature----- Soundwave superior, Constructicons inferior. Secretum finis Africae manus supra idolum age primum et septimum de quatuor You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me. I am a liar.
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Obi_one_and_only Registered: Jul '01	Date Posted: 5/10/05 12:36pm Subject: RE: Telika exei plaka na miseis to STAR WARS
	It is also certain that ROTS will not be as good as SW or ESB. I don't think that will ever happen for me either. Those films occupy this near-mythical place known as my childhood. Eiani afto pou leme: O £uca$ mou viase ti paidiki ilikia!!!11!11!1!11 -----signature----- Soundwave superior, Constructicons inferior. Secretum finis Africae manus supra idolum age primum et septimum de quatuor You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me. I am a liar.
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Obi-Kris_Kenobi Registered: Sep '02	Date Posted: 5/12/05 12:02pm Subject: RE: Telika exei plaka na miseis to STAR WARS
	Epeidi kykloforw kai egw sto Basher's Sanctuary kai grafw polles fores (estw kai an den brizw ton Lucas), den nomizw oti ta paidia pou grafoun ekei exoun panta adiko (i dikio). Ta Prequels einai poly kala, to ROTS mallon tha einai gamato alla exw tin aisthisi oti tha mporousan na ginoun POLY kalytera, pio epika kai pio sygkrotimena san tainies. An katsei kapoios na dei ti mporouse na ginei kalytera i na min ginei katholou sta prequels, tha brei polla. Den eimai yper akraiwn katastastewn tou styl "den ksanablepw tainia Star Wars POTE!" i "den paw na dw to ROTS, giati tha einai patata". Alla kapoia pragmata einai apla kai me koini logiki tha eprepe na einai basika stoixeia tis neas trilogias. Parte gia paradeigma ton Obi-Wan, otan milaei me ton Luke sto "A New Hope". Tou leei gia ton patera tou, gia to pws o theios tou den ithele na fygei apo ton Tattoine, gia to pws o Anakin eipe ston Obi-Wan na dwsei to saber tou ston Luke, gia to pws itan oi KALYTEROI filoi kai alla tosa, POU POTE DEN GINONTAI STA PREQUELS! - O Obi-Wan ekpaideytike apo ton Yoda - POU? POTE? Otan itan 5 xronwn, prin ton analabei o Qui-Gon gia poso, 25 xronia? - O Anakin pote den itan o "ikanoteros pilotos" pou eixe dei o Obi-Wan (ayto mallon ginetai sta prwta 5 lepta tou ROTS, alla pleon einai arga), oute epathe tin plaka tou me tin ikanotita tou sti Dynami (ekane o Anakin kati pou kaneis allos Jedi na min exei kanei ws twra? Ektos apo sex me tin Padme ). Ektos apo senariakes adynamies, pou en merei tis sygxwrw alla tha protimousa na min yparxoun, den mporw na blepw ton Yoda na kanei sboures me to saber tou enantia ston Dooku i ton Palpatine. Giati na min einai o Anakin aytos pou tha ekane ayta ta kolpa? -----signature----- [F A B U L O S O!] Geekness! UNLIMITED...GEEKNESS!!! "Ironic, isn't? He could chat with dozens of people in the Forums, but not utter a single word to a girl in real life..." [F A B U L O U S O!]
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gianakin Registered: Nov '04	Date Posted: 5/12/05 11:58pm Subject: RE: Telika exei plaka na miseis to STAR WARS - Date Edited: 5/13/05 12:05am (1 edits total) Edited By: gianakin
	---Parte gia paradeigma ton Obi-Wan, otan milaei me ton Luke sto "A New Hope". Tou leei gia ton patera tou, gia to pws o theios tou den ithele na fygei apo ton Tattoine, gia to pws o Anakin eipe ston Obi-Wan na dwsei to saber tou ston Luke, gia to pws itan oi KALYTEROI filoi kai alla tosa, POU POTE DEN GINONTAI STA PREQUELS! Tou leei psemmata(gia to fotospatho) gia na ton kanei na figei.Oso gia to kaliteroi filoi,ego den peistika pote oti o Han k o Luke einai alithinoi filoi.Polla apo afta fainontai ektos tainion sta vivlia k ta comics. ---O Obi-Wan ekpaideytike apo ton Yoda - POU? POTE? Otan itan 5 xronwn, prin ton analabei o Qui-Gon gia poso, 25 xronia? Ontos tripoula afto,alla siga to xontro lathos.Kalitera kollaei afto sto thread me to ti den mas aresei sto SW. ---O Anakin pote den itan o "ikanoteros pilotos" pou eixe dei o Obi-Wan (ayto mallon ginetai sta prwta 5 lepta tou ROTS, alla pleon einai arga), oute epathe tin plaka tou me tin ikanotita tou sti Dynami (ekane o Anakin kati pou kaneis allos Jedi na min exei kanei ws twra? Ektos apo sex me tin Padme wink ). Ektos tainion k pali fainetai,an k mallon o Lucas ennoouse ta Podraces k meta tis maxes stous polemous.Oso gia tin Dinami,afto eksigithike sta midi-chlorians pou o Kenobi eipe oti "popo,einai pio polla k apo ton Yoda!". ---den mporw na blepw ton Yoda na kanei sboures me to saber tou enantia ston Dooku i ton Palpatine. Giati na min einai o Anakin aytos pou tha ekane ayta ta kolpa? Afto einai thema tou kathenos na se po tin alitheia.Alla opos egine stin tainia,otan o Dooku einai etoimos na skotosei tous 2 Jedi,tha itheles na ginei kati iroiko teftaia stigmi a la Hollywood i a la Ep1 pou ekane o ObiWan k efage ton Maul(pou emena den me epeise KATHOLOU) i opos irthe o Yoda na MIN prospathisei na sosei tous filous tou gia na mi xalasei to image tyou sofou gerou?Mono logiko mou fainetai afto pou ekane k gia mena o Yooda den exase ixnos sofias.Oso gia ton Palps,kapoios prepei na stamatisei(i na prospathisei na stamatisei) tous Sith.Poios tha mporouse na anteksei enantia ston Palps,o Kenobi,apo tous epizontes?Mpaa....:) Genika,o Lucas ta eksigei,alla den idronei kiolas dioti den ton noiazei.Prospathei na vgalei freskes tainies k na kanei mia sindesoula k me ta palia k afto den me xalaei k katalavaino k to skeptiko tou.Kirios sto Ep3 tha einai oi polles sindeseis,eite faneres eite iponnooumenes.Ta dika mou 2 cents toulaxiston(all genika nomizo oti kalitera na to pame sto allo thread to olo thema,kathos exeis endiaferouses enstaseis,edo ton vrizoume ton gamimeno ton karioli ton kolopoustara ton Luca$!!!)) -----signature----- May the Fos Be With You(nea diafimisi gia DEH)
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Starkeiller Registered: Dec '04	Date Posted: 5/13/05 4:31am Subject: RE: Telika exei plaka na miseis to STAR WARS
	^ Synehaw st' allo, magges, gia peraste... -----signature----- "Ston Germano, echeis tin Dynami!" ~Diafimisi gia Germano
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Starkeiller Registered: Dec '04	Date Posted: 5/23/05 5:10am Subject: RE: Telika exei plaka na miseis to STAR WARS
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