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gianakin 
Registered: Nov '04
17645_Boba Fett
Date Posted: 6/15/05 5:38am Subject: RE: TO EPISODEIO III ANETREPSE TA PANTA!AKOUO SXOLIA!
Prepei na doume to epomeno kommati tou review.Proteino:
Apo ton Obi Wan na vgainei apo to nero eos to simeio pou me to Tantive IV o Mas Amedda eidopoiei ton Bail na paei sto Senate Hall.Mesa?

 

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Starkeiller 
Registered: Dec '04
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Date Posted: 6/15/05 5:40am Subject: RE: TO EPISODEIO III ANETREPSE TA PANTA!AKOUO SXOLIA!
^ O.K., let's go!!! cool

 

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Azriel 
Registered: May '05
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Date Posted: 6/15/05 7:09am Subject: RE: TO EPISODEIO III ANETREPSE TA PANTA!AKOUO SXOLIA!
Xmm...A disturbance in the Force I sense, something...elusive! A long awaited post is coming...The Force is strong in this one...SEARCH YOUR FEELINGS...

Take care all!

P.S: Sorry pou den grafo polla alla proxorate me tetio rithmo pou den prolavaino pia!!!:)
Keep up the good work guys!!!





 

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Obi-Kris_Kenobi 
Registered: Sep '02
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Date Posted: 6/15/05 7:28am Subject: RE: TO EPISODEIO III ANETREPSE TA PANTA!AKOUO SXOLIA! - Date Edited: 6/15/05 7:29am (1 edits total) Edited By: Obi-Kris_Kenobi
Argisa ligo (eksetastiki gar!) alla prin proxwrisoume stin parapera analysi, thelw na dimosieysw tin diki mou, gia to "Order 66"...


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Epitelous! H wra tou "Order 66" irthe!

To plano anoigei, me to Jedi Temple tin nyxta, me xiliades Clonetroopers na kanoun march pros ton Nao kai ton Anavader na tous odigei. An kai opados tis Light side, ayto itan kati pou panta ithela na dw. Den exei simasia an einai Clone- i Stormtroopers, alla afou eida ton Anakin na tous odigei, mou arkei kai me to parapanw. Mia aporia mono: Kanenas mesa ston Nao den tous pire xampari? Ena Jedi na dei kai na pei: "Hey, einai o Master skywalker mazi me mia douzian xiliades Clonetroopers! Kai den fainontai filikoi". Whatever, ypothetw einai synithes fainomeno na parelaynoun Clonetroopers stn Nao kathe mera! tongue OK, OK, stamataw. Eksallou, ti na kanane oi Jedi, tin eksodo tou Messologiou? Tambourwthikane mesa kai perimenane.

Oi fimes lene oti ayto to kommati einai ena apo ta 2-3 pou boithise kai o Spielberg. Den kserw, den yparxei kati pou na pw oti einai xaraktiristiko tou Spielberg, alla ti simasia exei? Ta plana einai fobera kai mallon asynithista gia Star Wars. Kserete, plana apo katheti gwnia, panoramiko plano tou Anakin na anebainei ta skalia... To embatirio pou akougetai moiazei san kati pou tha egrafe o Hans Zimmer gia to Gladiator i kapoia alli tainia pou na ekselissetai se pro-Xristianikes epoxes. Fysika kai symfwnw me ton gianakin, einai thaymasio kommati. Bebaia egw to ebala na paizei me to 'Imperial March' kai mou sikwthike i trixa kagkelo (etsi itane kai se ena TV Spot).


An kai perimena na ekselixtei se monoplano, i skini allazei kai pame ston Utapau, me ena fobero aerial plano, na deixneir Republic Gunships kai fterwta plasmata na boutane stin terastia trypa, opou ginetai xamos! Clonoi na ourliazoune, na peftoune, na ormane. Ennoeitai pws koryfaios einai ekeinos pou skrfalwnei sto Spider Droid kai tou tinazei tis bides ston aera, gia na dialysei kai akoma ena, liga deyterolepta meta! Kai enw i skini einai filmarismeni sxedon me documentaristiko-realistiko tropo, i geleia fwni tou droid xalaei gia ligo tin oli aisthisi. Eytyxws ston geniko xamo, den akougetai toso dynata...

O Obi-Wan kataftanei ston Cody kai tous ypoloipous clones, pou perimenoun ton..."proswrino" stratigo tous! O Cody tou dinei to saber (fobero foreshadowing to "I think you'll be needing this"! Mwre tha to xreiastei...). Kai erxetai i stigmi pou o Palpatine epikoinwnei me ton Cody gia na dwsei to Order 66! Mia sigmi pou xwraei polles ermineies: 1on, oi Clonoi eixane programmatistei yposeinidata na ektelesoun tin entoli, molis aytoi dwthei. Dexomaste oti oi commanders eixane panta ena hololink gia apeytheias entoles apo tin anwtati eksousia, parakamptwntas tis entoles twn Jedi. Eksallou einai programmatismenoi na dexontai entoles adiamartyrita. Opws dexetai adiamartyrita kai tin entoli o clonos pou pyrobolei ton Obi-Wan me to kanoni. Apo tetoia apostasi, logiko na astoxisei...se periptwsi pou simadeye me to mati! Giati min mou peite oti den diathetoun oi kanonierides kapoiou eidous skopeytro? Alla as min ta psirizw poly. Lypamai pou den symmerizomai tin apopsi twn fan tis Boga alla to kaimeno to zwaki diatelese to skopo tou kai mallon pige na synantisei ton Qui-Gon Jinn... Ayti tin entypwsi exw toulaxiston. Fobero to plano apo tin stigmi pou peftoune, kai "mpainei" taytoxrona to "Anakin's Betrayal".

MYGEETO

Apisteytos kosmos pragmatika, opou xionizei alla moiazei san staxti. Fobero ekswgiino periballon, me afise me anoixto to stoma (kyriolektika!) molis to antikrysa. Gia maxi 6-7 deyterolepwn, einai theiki, etsi opws antalassoun pyra oi dyo paratakseis panw stin gefyra. O Ki-Adi Mundi kalei tous troopers tou na ton akolouthisoun, idios palios ippotis, kai sxedon tha orkizomoun oti einai ekneyrismenos giati kathysteroune. Xexe, mallon skefotane tin taktiki pou tha akolouthisoune gia na ton katharisoun. Apisteytis teleiotitas to plano me tous troopers na stamatane.
To kontino sta podia tous mou thymizei kati alla den mporw na to thymithw kathara. Kill Bill isws? Den kserw (LOL! Kill Mundi!) Opws leei kai o gianakin, i prodosia einia OLOKATHARA zwgrafismeni sto proswpo tou. Isws giati prolabe na niwsei tin allagi synaisthimatwn twn clonwn tou. Aytoi anoigoun pyr enantion tou kai o kaimenos Ki prolabainei na apokrousei merikes boles prin ginei Elvetikos Jedi. R.I.F (Rest in Force) Ki-Adi Mundi...


FELUCIA

Allos enas mageytikos, sxedon paramythenios planitis, me foberis empneysis skinika! Oi walkers twn clones kanoun foberi antithesi me tin fysi, enw kai o ouranos moiazei skoteiniasmenos (apo synnefa i apo kapnous tis maxis?). H Stroumfita, eee, i Aayla Secura ithela na pw (an kai anti gia 2 "a" stin arxi eprepe na exei ena "K"... hypnotized ) badizei mprosta se ena ksefwto kai paratirei kati (emena mou fainetai san Seperatist Droids). Xwris na poune tipota, oi Clones sikwnoune ta opla tous kai pyroboloune tin ekplikti (kai ekpliktiki...) Aayla. Swsta o gianakin anaferei upirxe kai enas mikros alla cool dialogos metaksy tis agapimenis mas Twi'Lek kai tou commander Bly, alla etsi opws ekselixtike to montaz kai i mousiki, kalytera na milisoun oi eikones... H Aayla peftei opws kai o Ki-Adi, diladi me to Swiss Cheese Shooting Technique, kai exoume ena maestriko plano apo ton Lucas (i ton Spielberg?), pou den perimena na dw sto Star Wars, me ton clono pou synexizei na tin pyrobolaei akoma kai otan ayti exei pesei sto edafos xtypimeni... shock R.I.F Aayla Secura (ektos kai an emfanistei sto TV series...)


KASHYYYK

H ILM den katadexetai na balei ena alithino ksylino rabdi na peftei kai to kanei psifiako! tongue Foberi ontws skini, akoouw aristera kai deksia gia "Oscar" ermineias. Den einai yperboles, o Yoda tou ROTS ftanei se Gollumika epipeda poiotitas. Anti na ftiaxnane ton Jar Jar sto TPM, as kanane ton Yoda. Eixe pei o Theios oti o Jar Jar einai o prwtos psifiakos ithopoios. Nai men alla... Diladi o Yoda edw ti einai, o Robert DeNiro twn CGI? Fobero, fobero, opws leei kai o Azriel, idios o Malfurion apo to Warcraft III!


CATO NEIMOIDIA

O planitis twn Neimodians, episis fobero design. Enas wannabe Coruscant isws. Mpa, ti blepw, o Plo Kloon den exei to teleytaio montelaki Jedi Starfighter? Edw o clone pilot to leei poly psyxra to "It shall be done, my Lord". O Plo teleytaia stigmi katalabainei kati kai prospathei na kanei kati pseytoeligmous, alla ta pyra twn clones twn petyxainoun ka ton stelnou gia rentevou me mia kolona. Tricky plan, me ton Kloon na tyligetai stis floges. Na tin pw tin amartia mou, otan to eixa dei se TV spot, mou fainotane ows i ekriksi itane apo bombardismo sto Jedi Temple. Kai eipa "axriste Jedi, kathismeno kai aprago se brike i bomba..." tongue R.I.F. Plo Kloon...


SALEUCAMI

Endiaferon baltoeidis planitis, pou fainetai na exei ypostei polles katastrofes apo kapoia megali maxi. Polla Clone Walkers sto bathos katestramena kai OMG!, o gianakin exei dikio: Ornea trefontai apo ta ptwmata clonwn! H Stass Allie pethainei entypwsiaka, me tous Clonoun na lambanoun to sima kai AMESWS na kanoun tin magkia me ta speeders kai na tin stelnoun gia trofi sta ornea... R.I.F. Stass Allie...


KASHYYYK

H maxi synexizetai, ta Wookies polemoun genaia kai oi clones, panw se terastia tanks, bastoun akoma, alla i pragmatiki maxi dinetai poly pio panw, opou o Clone commander tou Yoda lambanei to Order 66. Polloi filoi, se alla forums, diamartyrontai pws oi clonoi aplws kanoun ena neyma kai kateytheian kseroune ti prepei na ginei. Ma i texnologia yparxei idi ston planiti mas kai legetai eswteriki epikoinwnia: An o clone commander epikoinwnisei mesw tou eswterikou asyrmatou sto kranos tou, me tous ypoloipous, kai milisei sigana, poios tha tous akousei? En pasei periptwsei, o Commander kai o allos clonos etoimazontai na epitethoune ston Yoda, o opoios idi exei niwsei ton xamo twn ypoloipwn kai einai etoimos. Molis niwsei tous clonous, kanei to fobero trick me to saber kai tous apokefalizei. O Chewie kai o Tarfull koitazontai gia ligo aporimenoi alla afou o Yoda thewrise swsto na apokefalisei tous clonous, aytoi einai mazi tou.


JEDI TEMPLE

Fobero kai skoteino plano, me tous clonous na pyroboloune opou broune Jedi, me tis boles tous na antilaloune sta teixi tou Temple. Alalgi planou, stin fobera sokaristiki skini opou o anakin skotwnei tous Younglings. Katholou mouaiki edw, ypoblitikos fwtismos, kai gia mena to point of no return tou Anakin. Aytos den einai me kammia kybernisi o erwteymenos nearos pou xazogelouse me tin Padme ston Naboo... Swsti paratirisi tou gianakin oti o Anakin sta matia twn allwn Jedi tygxaine megalis ektimisis, isaksia me ayti enos Master. To paidaki pou milaei einai poly swsti epilogi kai den katalaibw giati den aresei oute emfanisiaka, oute to pws leei to "Master Skywalker, there are too many of them. What are we going to do?". Kai o tropos pou tromazei otan anabei o Anakin to saber einai poly realistikos kai metadotikos. Entaksei, na dw na pethainoun Jedi, to perimena. Paidakia omws? Paidakia? Omologw oti akoma psilosokaromai otan blepw tin skini kai aporw pws to tolmise o Lucas ayto...


Megisto plano tis Padme na blepei to Temple na kaigetai, kai na anysixei gia ton Anakin, mono pou i tragiki eirwneia einai oti aytos eythinetai gi'ayti tin katastrofi...Kai ypoklinomai sto ksespasma tis Natalie Portman, i opoia klaiei me lygmous. Parte ta, oloi eseis pou legate oti den einai kali ithopoios! Emena me ekane na sygkinithw pantws.


YPER-PAN-MEGISTO plano tou Temple na kaigetai, kai o Bail na pigainei me to speeder tou ekei. Diladi twra ayti i skini einai plirws CGI? Ti me noiazei, milame gia apeirou kallous skini, eyge se olous osous tin ftiaksane! O Bail, mamwn kai dernwn, paei na to paiksei skliros alla oi clonoi tou kleinoune ton dromo. Koryfi to "And so it is..." tou Bail, tou dinei ontws mia prigkipiki xroia. Molis paei na fygei, erxetai o fillius tou Lucas gia to cameo tou. Den tha ypokrithw oti me peirazei, giati an den iksera oti einai o - thetos - gios tou Theiou, den tha me peiraze katholou. Entaksei, den edeikse Masters i Knights na polemane etsi alla it's ok. Xm, skefteite na ginotane kanenas diagwnismos pagkosmiws, opou o nikitis-fan tha eixe tin timi na einai sti thesi tou Jett!!! Kala, kala, stamataw na oneireyomai: O mikros pernei mazi tou ston allo kosmo enan sebasto arithmo clonwn, konei ligo panw apo tin zwni, kobei sterno, kobei karwtida, prin tin "faei". Kai pali poly wraios o tropos pou o Bail fwnazei to "No"! (Telika, mazi me to "I have a bad feeling about this", se kathe tainia exoume kai ena "No!"). Mia mikri katadiwksi tin goustara edw, alla ok,ok, as min eimaste axaristoi!

Den eleipe tipota apo aytes tis skines. Symfwna me to EU, polloi bounty hunters analabane na kynigisoune Jedi se olo ton Galaxia. Mia tetoia skini me kammia Aurra Sing gia paradeigma, den tha me xalouse katholou, alla mporei na "xalouse" i skini.



MOUSIKH: To soundtrack tou ROTS einai kat'eme to kalytero twn prequels kai isws to kalytero olwn - sto CD. Kata pasa pithanotata o John Williams DEN tha parei Oscar, giati kapou diabasa oti den pairnoun brabeio soundtracks pou periexoun mousiki pou exei idi brabeytei. Entaksei, tha to parei gia to War of the Worlds alla oloi tha kseroume gia poio pragmatika to pire! wink To Anakin's Betrayal den iksera pote tha paizei. To akouga kathimerina to soundtrack alla den tou eixa dwsei poly simasia stin arxi (mou arese to "Anakin's Dark Deeds"). Apo to TV Spot "Tragedy 2" kai meta, to proseksa kai stin megali othoni itane fantastiko. Wres-wres anarwtiemai ti na skeftetai o Williams, otan koitazei tis eikones pou tou dinei o filos tou o GL. Ti synaisthimata tou genniountai, ti skepseis, ti einai ayto pou tou ksypna tin empneysi. Epiase tin aishtisi tis apwleias, tis prodosias, tis thlipsis, tis parakmis, tis katastrofis, tou TELOUS mias epoxis... Simeiwton, otan grafei tin mousiki, exei OLES tis skines diathesimes, giati meta tin enorxistrwsi montaretai to film. Ara gianakin, o Williams einai mesa stin kleisti omada anthrwpwn pou exoun dei to EpIII se olo tou to megaleio. cry


GENIKA SXOLIA: Ti na sxoliasw, oti kai na pw einai ligo, elaxisto. Sto xarti apotypwmeno den fainetai toso kalo oso stin othoni. Toulaxiston 50% tis empeirias einai i mousiki tou ypertatou John Williams. To allo 50% einai yperoxa apotelesmatiki skinothesia, ta effe kai oi ermineies - oi eikones genika. To ROTS einai gemato apo asynithistes eikones se sxesi me tin OT kai ayto einai kalo. Nai, kala diabazete. Opws leei kai o gianakin, oi epoxes allazoun kai mazi tous to Star Wars. Nai, alla ti ennooume me allagi? Einai ta CGI, synexeia kai pantou? Aplws flashies kai eikones entypwsiasmou? H mipws i allagi eprepe na einai pio ousiastiki: Mipws einai skines typou "Order 66", einai i Padme me ton Anakin pou koitazontai "noita", einai to theatrinistiko "soursimo" tou Palpatine sto duel me ton Mace, einai oi skines oneirou tou Anakin, i kideia tis Padme sto telos. Htan liges oi stigmes pou eniwtha oti yparxei syndesi tis OT me tin PT sta Prequels: Otan o Qui-Gon milaei me ton Watto ston Tattoine sto EpI, otan o Anakin einai sto speeder kai psaxnei tin Shmi sto EpII, aytes einai klassikes SW stigmes, dwsmenes mesa apo nea optiki, me swstes analogies nostalgias kai...texnologias. Gi'ayto pisteuw oti to ROTS enwse kapws to xasma bashers kai gushers. Exei polla "mikra" lathakia pou ta prosexw twra pou kanoume tis analyseis alla den mporoune na xalasoune to megaleio skinwn opws to "Order 66", pou otan to eida iksera oti tha agapousa to ROTS. Kai eilikrina, me to pou teleiwse to sequence, i kopela mou mou ekleise to stoma! Den mou aresei na kanw efetzidika pragmata, typou na sfyrizw epidokimastika ("Psssssss"), na lew "Oh, /\/\@l@k@, ti exei kanei o anthrwpos" (eidika ama akouw kanenan na fwnazei etsi, thelw na tou parw to scalp!) oute anoigw kai kala to stoma mou ekpliktos. Alla otan eida to "Order 66", ayto to tleytaio egine ST'ALITHEIA! Eida kati pou perimena xronia na to dw. Bravo ston Lucas, bravo stin ILM, BRAVO & EYXARISTW ston John Williams! applause applause applause

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gianakin 
Registered: Nov '04
17645_Boba Fett
Date Posted: 6/15/05 8:08am Subject: RE: TO EPISODEIO III ANETREPSE TA PANTA!AKOUO SXOLIA!
Den paizei na mi sou apantiso! grin


Mia aporia mono: Kanenas mesa ston Nao den tous pire xampari? Ena Jedi na dei kai na pei: "Hey, einai o Master skywalker mazi me mia douzina xiliades Clonetroopers! Kai den fainontai filikoi". Whatever, ypothetw einai synithes fainomeno na parelaynoun Clonetroopers stn Nao kathe mera!

Paizei k me tous Masters nekrous ktl,oi ipoloipoi na min kseroun k polla gia tin oli ipothesi.Min ksexname pos mono sto Council emeinan oi ipopsies gia ton Palpstine.Fisika k to teleftaio pou perimenan itan oi klonoi na strafoun enantion tous!Alloi Masters px itan mesa sta domatia tous k ekanan meditation(vl. Shaak Ti).


Kserete, plana apo katheti gwnia, panoramiko plano tou Anakin na anebainei ta skalia... To embatirio pou akougetai moiazei san kati pou tha egrafe o Hans Zimmer gia to Gladiator i kapoia alli tainia pou na ekselissetai se pro-Xristianikes epoxes. Fysika kai symfwnw me ton gianakin, einai thaymasio kommati. Bebaia egw to ebala na paizei me to 'Imperial March' kai mou sikwthike i trixa kagkelo (etsi itane kai se ena TV Spot).

Kala,exeis apolito dikio gia ta plana,"airetika" gia SW!Oso gia tin mousiki xairomai pou o Theios ektimise to kommati k to talento tou Williams gia ena apo ta pio apsoga stratiotika themata stin istoria tou sinema.Pao na to valo k go me to Imp March!


Aytoi anoigoun pyr enantion tou kai o kaimenos Ki prolabainei na apokrousei merikes boles prin ginei Elvetikos Jedi.


LOL,theos! applause


R.I.F Aayla Secura (ektos kai an emfanistei sto TV series...)

Den paizei,i seira mallon tha exei Boba Fett k ta politika pou den eidame katholou sto Ep3,dld tin formation k ekseliksi tis Rebel Alliance.


To paidaki pou milaei einai poly swsti epilogi kai den katalaibw giati den aresei oute emfanisiaka, oute to pws leei to "Master Skywalker, there are too many of them. What are we going to do?". Kai o tropos pou tromazei otan anabei o Anakin to saber einai poly realistikos kai metadotikos. Entaksei, na dw na pethainoun Jedi, to perimena. Paidakia omws? Paidakia? Omologw oti akoma psilosokaromai otan blepw tin skini kai aporw pws to tolmise o Lucas ayto...

E,ntaksei kalo itan to paidaki,xexe!O Lucas eixe na valei kati shocking gia na peisei oti o Anakin exei parei telios tin kato volta.Afou polis kosmos eipe gia ta alla 2 erga oti oi Jedi den tous ekanan entiposi ktl,sou leei:"As valo ta mikra Jed-akia!".K kala ekane.To na sfazeis paidakia se kanei adistakto,eno to na sfazeis Rebels k genika isaksious antipalous se merikous de leei k polla dioti apo to point of view kapoion lene:"e,tous evlepe exthrous,logiko den itan?".


Xm, skefteite na ginotane kanenas diagwnismos pagkosmiws, opou o nikitis-fan tha eixe tin timi na einai sti thesi tou Jett!!! Kala, kala, stamataw na oneireyomai

Stamataaaaaaaa cry

Den eleipe tipota apo aytes tis skines. Symfwna me to EU, polloi bounty hunters analabane na kynigisoune Jedi se olo ton Galaxia. Mia tetoia skini me kammia Aurra Sing gia paradeigma, den tha me xalouse katholou, alla mporei na "xalouse" i skini.

Sigoura tha tin xalouse,ase pou exoume k tin TV series akoma,poios kserei,an den exei ton Vader na kiniga Jedi,mporei na exei merikous thanatous apo Bounty Hunters...


MOUSIKH: To soundtrack tou ROTS einai kat'eme to kalytero twn prequels kai isws to kalytero olwn - sto CD. Kata pasa pithanotata o John Williams DEN tha parei Oscar, giati kapou diabasa oti den pairnoun brabeio soundtracks pou periexoun mousiki pou exei idi brabeytei. Entaksei, tha to parei gia to War of the Worlds alla oloi tha kseroume gia poio pragmatika to pire! wink To Anakin's Betrayal den iksera pote tha paizei. To akouga kathimerina to soundtrack alla den tou eixa dwsei poly simasia stin arxi (mou arese to "Anakin's Dark Deeds"). Apo to TV Spot "Tragedy 2" kai meta, to proseksa kai stin megali othoni itane fantastiko. Wres-wres anarwtiemai ti na skeftetai o Williams, otan koitazei tis eikones pou tou dinei o filos tou o GL. Ti synaisthimata tou genniountai, ti skepseis, ti einai ayto pou tou ksypna tin empneysi. Epiase tin aishtisi tis apwleias, tis prodosias, tis thlipsis, tis parakmis, tis katastrofis, tou TELOUS mias epoxis... Simeiwton, otan grafei tin mousiki, exei OLES tis skines diathesimes, giati meta tin enorxistrwsi montaretai to film. Ara gianakin, o Williams einai mesa stin kleisti omada anthrwpwn pou exoun dei to EpIII se olo tou to megaleio.

Kala,o Williams einai mousiki megalofiia.Kai stamata #2 gia ton Williams pou eide olo to ergo!Ti thes dld,na me aftoktoniseis?Anyway,to thema einai oti o tipos den tha parei Oscar,alla kserei oti einai o kaliteros kai oti kapoia stigmi tha parei Oscar of Life Achievement,opote,no sweat!To RotS einai idi to kalitero mou Soundtrack apo ta 6!Perimeno tora tin Ultimate Ekdosi a la Ep1,pou tha exei tin mousiki akrivos opos paixtike stin tainia!


To ROTS einai gemato apo asynithistes eikones se sxesi me tin OT kai ayto einai kalo. Nai, kala diabazete. Opws leei kai o gianakin, oi epoxes allazoun kai mazi tous to Star Wars. Nai, alla ti ennooume me allagi? Einai ta CGI, synexeia kai pantou? Aplws flashies kai eikones entypwsiasmou? H mipws i allagi eprepe na einai pio ousiastiki: Mipws einai skines typou "Order 66", einai i Padme me ton Anakin pou koitazontai "noita", einai to theatrinistiko "soursimo" tou Palpatine sto duel me ton Mace, einai oi skines oneirou tou Anakin, i kideia tis Padme sto telos. Htan liges oi stigmes pou eniwtha oti yparxei syndesi tis OT me tin PT sta Prequels: Otan o Qui-Gon milaei me ton Watto ston Tattoine sto EpI, otan o Anakin einai sto speeder kai psaxnei tin Shmi sto EpII, aytes einai klassikes SW stigmes, dwsmenes mesa apo nea optiki, me swstes analogies nostalgias kai...texnologias. Gi'ayto pisteuw oti to ROTS enwse kapws to xasma bashers kai gushers. Exei polla "mikra" lathakia pou ta prosexw twra pou kanoume tis analyseis alla den mporoune na xalasoune to megaleio skinwn opws to "Order 66", pou otan to eida iksera oti tha agapousa to ROTS.

Nai,to RotS ta katafere poli kala.Oxi teleia,isos,alla teleia-1.Kai afto emena me aresei poli,eidika afou to 2007 tha exoume k alla Easter-Eggs/Allages!Ara...tpt den teleiose akoma.

Kai eilikrina, me to pou teleiwse to sequence, i kopela mou mou ekleise to stoma! Den mou aresei na kanw efetzidika pragmata, typou na sfyrizw epidokimastika ("Psssssss"), na lew "Oh, /\/\@l@k@, ti exei kanei o anthrwpos" (eidika ama akouw kanenan na fwnazei etsi, thelw na tou parw to scalp!) oute anoigw kai kala to stoma mou ekpliktos. Alla otan eida to "Order 66", ayto to tleytaio egine ST'ALITHEIA! Eida kati pou perimena xronia na to dw. Bravo ston Lucas, bravo stin ILM, BRAVO & EYXARISTW ston John Williams!

Ego krataga tin anasa mou edo,alla arxiza ta "pss" kai ta"mlk ti kanei aftos" stin arxi tis monomaxias Anakin/Ben.Genika k go den leo tetoia sxolia,alla otan erxomaste se thema SW,mas aksizei.Sosta?

 

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Date Posted: 6/15/05 10:59am Subject: RE: TO EPISODEIO III ANETREPSE TA PANTA!AKOUO SXOLIA!
^ Egw elega synecheia: "M@l@@@@@@@@k@@@@@@@@@@@..." kai tetoia, pou den to kanw POTE.

 

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Date Posted: 6/15/05 11:32am Subject: RE: TO EPISODEIO III ANETREPSE TA PANTA!AKOUO SXOLIA!
Aha, mia ap ta idia...Edw pou ta leme to ROTS den einai akribws i tainia pou kathesai etsi plain h etsi tired kai blepeis...Egw imoun kapws shock drooling praying applause applause ...

 

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Date Posted: 6/15/05 1:09pm Subject: RE: TO EPISODEIO III ANETREPSE TA PANTA!AKOUO SXOLIA!
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Apo mesa mou kai egw etsi lew i kanw. Alla otan koitazw mia tainia, den milaw me kanenan dipla mou, den sxoliazw, den koitazw kinito (den to bazw kan sto athorybo, to KLEINW) kai se tainies typou Star Wars, Lord of the Rings i tin Paraskeyi to Batman Begins grin , eimai etsi plain . Molis eida to "Order 66" omws emeina shock , kyriolektika, idio to emoticon imouna!

 

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Date Posted: 6/16/05 3:15am Subject: RE: TO EPISODEIO III ANETREPSE TA PANTA!AKOUO SXOLIA!
Yup... wink

 

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Date Posted: 6/20/05 2:49am Subject: RE: TO EPISODEIO III ANETREPSE TA PANTA!AKOUO SXOLIA!
K sinexizo me to review pou kapos to paramelisame!

Eimaste sto simeio pou o ObiWan vgainei apo to nero pou epese kai fisika epezise me ti xrisi tis breathing device,introduced sto Ep1.Edo kopike i skini sto simeio pou deixnei kati scout troopers na psaxnoun.Eno tora nomizoume oti telika den ton vriskoun,an sinexize i skini tha vlepame oti ton vriskoun alla tous troei ena poli omorfo terataki,to legomeno NOS monster.Eipame...Ben Butt!

Meta pame ston Kashyyyk k ston Yoda,ton opoion figadevoun oi 2 arxigoi ton Wookiees,Tarrful kai Chewbacca.Ton odigoun sto pod pou metepeita tha xrisimefsei os spitaki tou Yoda ston Dagobah kai meta apo ena "Goodbye Tarrful,goodbye Chewbacca,miss you I will",o Yoda mpainei sto skafos.Prepei na omologiso pos akougetai "kapos" to onoma tou Chewie apo ton Yoda,alla de variesai.Kathos kleinei i porta tou pod,akoume ena sofistike dialogo metaksi Chewie k Tarrful,mia stigmi amixanias gia tous theates prepei na paradextoume,akthos den katalavainoume Xristouli!Kai me afto kleinei k i skiniiii....

Meta pame pali ston Utapau opou vlepoume tous kalous Stormtroopers tis panagathis Republic-soon-to-become-an-Empire na exoun ipodoulosei olon ton plithismo tis polis!O Cody rotaei enan stratioti an vrike ton Kenobi k kata tin klassiki mataiodoksia ton kakon:"Sir,no one could have survived that fall!".Sou leo,epomeno plano o Kenobi na akouei k na trexei sto skafos tou Grievous,to voutaei k tin kanei.

Ston Coruscant,vlepoume epitelous to Tantive IV na apogeionetai kai ton Senator Organa me ton Captain Antilles na perpatane mazi,o Organa apofasismenos na sosei osous Jedi ginetai apo tin katastrofi.

Meta vlepoume ton Kenobi na vgainei apo tin atmosfaira tou Utapau k na epikoinonei se ektakti SOS sixnotita kai petixainei to teleftaio atomo pou perimene:Ton Organa,enan politiko san aftous pou den empistevotan sto Ep2!O Organa ton enimeronei oti i prodosia ton Klonon egine se olo ton galaksia kai oti erxtai na ton mazepsei.

Pame ston Coruscant k ston Anakin na epistrefei stin Padme kai na tin diavevaionei oti ola vainoun kalos.Tis leei oti oi Jedi ekanan praksikopima k o idios o Windu prospathise na dolofonisei ton Kagkelario.Tis dilonei oti einai pistos ston Kagkelario kai tin Republic k otan ekeini ton rota gia ton Ben,ekeinos me mia apoliti psixrada tis apokrinetai oti elpizei pos emeine pistos sti Dimokratia(opos i Anakin as poume,xmmm).Telika tis leei oti ola tha pane kala k oti exei mia poli simantiki apostoli ston Mustafar pou tha liksei ton polemo,na skotosei olous tous Separatist Leaders.Fevgei k ekei vlepoume ligo tin paranoia sta matia tou otan leei:"Don't worry my love" kai tis zita na ton perimenei.Etsi fevgei.

Cut ston Tantive IV k ton Yoda na pliroforei ton Ben oti den exoun akousei nea apo kanenan Jedi.Episis o Organa leei oti eide me ta matia tou to skiniko ston Nao kai gi'afto prospathise na vrei ton Yoda.Telika tous leei oti to eidiko minima pou exoun oi Jedi apo to Nao gia na epikoinonoun grafei oti o polemos teleiose kai tous leei na girisoun "spiti",fisika gia na pesoun stin pagida.O Ben proteinei na pane k na allaksoun to sima se "run for your lives" kai o Yoda simfonei(sooopa!) prosthetontas oti kalo tha itan na mathoun k ti akrivos sinevi.

Cut ston Mustafar k stin eisagogi tou perivallontos ekei.Meta pame sto domatio pou einai mazemenoi oi Arxigoi ton Aposxiston kai ton Sidious na tous leei oti ola pane simfona me to sxedio kai oti o neos tou mathitis erxetai na tous...frontisei!Kai vevaia ta vourla kathisixazontai dioti nomizoun oti enas Sith Lord krata ton logo tou.

Kai pleon o Tantive IV einai stin atmosfaira tou Coruscant,kai o Organa dexetai MNM apo ton Amedda oti o Kagkelarios kanei ektakti sigkentrosi tis Gerousias kai oti ton perimenei.O Bail leei oti tha einai ekei k o Mas me ena ifos pio iperoptiko apo tou Palps k pio variestimeno apo tou Garfiled leei:"You'll be expected".Edo na po oti o allos ithopoios pou kanei ton Mas einai poli kalos(aftos pou mila ston Bail),eno aftos pou ton paizei sinithos einai ligo aggouristan,alla siga ton xaraktira,opote...Kai vevaia,o Yoda leei oti o naos tha exei ligi frourisi kai oti etsi tha mporesoun na mpoun mesa.

Afta,tpt to spoudaio edo,einai to aftermath tis Order 66,perimeno sxolia k protasi gia to epomeno kommati tou review!

 

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Date Posted: 6/20/05 5:33am Subject: RE: TO EPISODEIO III ANETREPSE TA PANTA!AKOUO SXOLIA!
^^^
Kala kaneis kai to synexizeis. [Boromir] I would have followed you my brother [/Boromir] alla i %#^*na i eksetastiki (3 mathimata se 4 meres!!!) me exei gonatisei. Kseklebw 1 wra gia na erthw sto Gnet na dw ti ginetai. sad

 

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Date Posted: 6/24/05 11:45am Subject: RE: TO EPISODEIO III ANETREPSE TA PANTA!AKOUO SXOLIA! - Date Edited: 6/24/05 11:49am (1 edits total) Edited By: Urkanoid
grin I'll be right with ya folks! grin

 

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Date Posted: 6/24/05 12:45pm Subject: RE: TO EPISODEIO III ANETREPSE TA PANTA!AKOUO SXOLIA!
Loipon, nomizw oti kairos einai na sunexisoume auto to xiliotalaipwrimeno review pou mas to fagane ta Pokemon kai i Candy-Candy... laugh Akolouthoun kana duo dika mou sxolia sta gegonota opws ta parethese o gianakin...


Eimaste sto simeio pou o ObiWan vgainei apo to nero pou epese kai fisika epezise me ti xrisi tis breathing device,introduced sto Ep1.Edo kopike i skini sto simeio pou deixnei kati scout troopers na psaxnoun.Eno tora nomizoume oti telika den ton vriskoun,an sinexize i skini tha vlepame oti ton vriskoun alla tous troei ena poli omorfo terataki,to legomeno NOS monster.Eipame...Ben Butt!


H suskeui auti i opoia ontws eisixthei sto TPM, polu mou arese pou mpike sto ROTS.Oxi mono se epipedo sunoxis twn epeisodiwn alla kai ws ena xristiko antikeimeno to opoio "prosgeiwnei" ligo tous Jedi.Akoma kai autoi xreiazontai maska kai batraxopedila... wink laugh Oson afora to koutsourema tou Burt, auti einai mia skini tin opoioa den eimai akribws bebaios an tha eprepe na ti doume.Dedomenis tis sunaisthimatikis fortisis sto simeio auto tou sequence mipos ena akoma mustirio SW terataki eixe anticlimactic drasi?Tha ithela pantws na paixei sto DVD...


Meta pame ston Kashyyyk k ston Yoda,ton opoion figadevoun oi 2 arxigoi ton Wookiees,Tarrful kai Chewbacca.Ton odigoun sto pod pou metepeita tha xrisimefsei os spitaki tou Yoda ston Dagobah kai meta apo ena "Goodbye Tarrful,goodbye Chewbacca,miss you I will",o Yoda mpainei sto skafos.Prepei na omologiso pos akougetai "kapos" to onoma tou Chewie apo ton Yoda,alla de variesai.Kathos kleinei i porta tou pod,akoume ena sofistike dialogo metaksi Chewie k Tarrful,mia stigmi amixanias gia tous theates prepei na paradextoume,akthos den katalavainoume Xristouli!Kai me afto kleinei k i skiniiii....


Gia tin ekfora tou logou tou Yoda exw na pw to exis: Frank Oz, you rule man, you kick ass from here to the Outer Rim! applause applause O tropos me ton opoio xrwmatizei ti fwni tou ston apoxairetismo twn Wookiees sumpiknwnei oli tin entasi kai tin sobarotita twn gegonotwn twn opoiwn exoun sumbei kai profanws autwn twn opoiwn tha epakolouthisoun.Einai to antio autou pou gnwrizei oti den tha xanadei autous pou apoxaireta...


Meta pame pali ston Utapau opou vlepoume tous kalous Stormtroopers tis panagathis Republic-soon-to-become-an-Empire na exoun ipodoulosei olon ton plithismo tis polis!O Cody rotaei enan stratioti an vrike ton Kenobi k kata tin klassiki mataiodoksia ton kakon:"Sir,no one could have survived that fall!".Sou leo,epomeno plano o Kenobi na akouei k na trexei sto skafos tou Grievous,to voutaei k tin kanei.


Mia dunati geusi apo tin dianoitiki tragwdia pou apoteloun oi Stormtroopers tis OT.Les kai baragane skiourous me ta ntoufekia!Mallon ta gonidia tis nwthrotitas kai tou wxaderfismou oi Caminoans den tous ta afairesan...Oso gia to skafos tou GG, kata tin gnwmi mou apo ta omorfotera se olo to Saga.


Ston Coruscant,vlepoume epitelous to Tantive IV na apogeionetai kai ton Senator Organa me ton Captain Antilles na perpatane mazi,o Organa apofasismenos na sosei osous Jedi ginetai apo tin katastrofi.

Meta vlepoume ton Kenobi na vgainei apo tin atmosfaira tou Utapau k na epikoinonei se ektakti SOS sixnotita kai petixainei to teleftaio atomo pou perimene:Ton Organa,enan politiko san aftous pou den empistevotan sto Ep2!O Organa ton enimeronei oti i prodosia ton Klonon egine se olo ton galaksia kai oti erxtai na ton mazepsei.



Ontws, i ekplixi tou Ben einai kati perissotero apo ekdili:"Senator Organa?Where the f**k did you come from?!" laugh


Pame ston Coruscant k ston Anakin na epistrefei stin Padme kai na tin diavevaionei oti ola vainoun kalos.Tis leei oti oi Jedi ekanan praksikopima k o idios o Windu prospathise na dolofonisei ton Kagkelario.Tis dilonei oti einai pistos ston Kagkelario kai tin Republic k otan ekeini ton rota gia ton Ben,ekeinos me mia apoliti psixrada tis apokrinetai oti elpizei pos emeine pistos sti Dimokratia(opos i Anakin as poume,xmmm).Telika tis leei oti ola tha pane kala k oti exei mia poli simantiki apostoli ston Mustafar pou tha liksei ton polemo,na skotosei olous tous Separatist Leaders.Fevgei k ekei vlepoume ligo tin paranoia sta matia tou otan leei:"Don't worry my love" kai tis zita na ton perimenei.Etsi fevgei.


Oxi mono ginetai antilipto oti o Ani exei arxisei kai exei illusions of grandeur alla kai oti i Padme aisthanetai pws kati den paei kala.Otan tis leei oti tha parameinei pistos ston Kagkelario to blemma tis fainetai na sumfwnei me ton Obi-Wan, exw apo to Council:"Our allegiance is to the Senate, not to the Chancellor!"Politikos einai to koritsi, kati xerei.


Cut ston Tantive IV k ton Yoda na pliroforei ton Ben oti den exoun akousei nea apo kanenan Jedi.Episis o Organa leei oti eide me ta matia tou to skiniko ston Nao kai gi'afto prospathise na vrei ton Yoda.Telika tous leei oti to eidiko minima pou exoun oi Jedi apo to Nao gia na epikoinonoun grafei oti o polemos teleiose kai tous leei na girisoun "spiti",fisika gia na pesoun stin pagida.O Ben proteinei na pane k na allaksoun to sima se "run for your lives" kai o Yoda simfonei(sooopa!) prosthetontas oti kalo tha itan na mathoun k ti akrivos sinevi.


Olo to kommati auto mesa ston retro xwro tou Tantive IV suntelei me enan upofoskonta tropo stin suneiditopoisi tou poso konta sto telos exoume ftasei...Oi eikones tou Vader otan epibibazetai sto skafos sto ANH den apomakrinontai ME TIPOTA apo tin othoni tou mualou mou...Ola exelisontai aristotexnika.


Cut ston Mustafar k stin eisagogi tou perivallontos ekei.Meta pame sto domatio pou einai mazemenoi oi Arxigoi ton Aposxiston kai ton Sidious na tous leei oti ola pane simfona me to sxedio kai oti o neos tou mathitis erxetai na tous...frontisei!Kai vevaia ta vourla kathisixazontai dioti nomizoun oti enas Sith Lord krata ton logo tou.


H blakeia kai i afasia twn aposxistwn einai paroimiwdis...Alla den peirazei, poios tous eipe na kanoun parea me Sith?Entwmetaxu, opote o Sidious eisagagei kapoion kainourio apprentice tou, autos kataligei frikta akrwtiriasmenos h skotwmenos.Kai prospathei re gamwto o Palpy, krima... laugh


[i]Kai pleon o Tantive IV einai stin atmosfaira tou Coruscant,kai o Organa dexetai MNM apo ton Amedda oti o Kagkelarios kanei ektakti sigkentrosi tis Gerousias kai oti ton perimenei.O Bail leei oti tha einai ekei k o Mas me ena ifos pio iperoptiko apo tou Palps k pio variestimeno apo tou Garfiled leei:"You'll be expected".Edo na po oti o allos ithopoios pou kanei ton Mas einai poli kalos(aftos pou mila ston Bail),eno aftos pou ton paizei sinithos einai ligo aggouristan,alla siga ton xaraktira,opote...Kai vevaia,o Yoda leei oti o naos tha exei ligi frourisi kai oti etsi tha mporesoun na mpoun mesa.[/i


Kamia paratirisi pera apo to athlio, Imperial ufos pou exei o Amedda.Na kanoun oloi ta sxolia tous kai na pame sto kommati apo tin episimi anakiriksi tou Republic se Empire ap ton stolismeno Palpy mexri tin sfagi twn Separatists ap ton Lord Vader?Perimenw sxolia... wink grin

 

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Date Posted: 6/25/05 1:20am Subject: RE: TO EPISODEIO III ANETREPSE TA PANTA!AKOUO SXOLIA!
OK,alla ego meta tin Tetarti,dioti pao Santorini.Kalos na sas ksanavro kirioi!

 

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Date Posted: 6/25/05 4:36am Subject: RE: TO EPISODEIO III ANETREPSE TA PANTA!AKOUO SXOLIA!
Kala na peraseis re su kai may the Force be with you!See you soon... wink

 

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