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Queenie Amidala Registered: May '00	Date Posted: 9/18/06 7:43pm Subject: RE: DVD release event, Sept 12
	We broke down and bought them. Haven't watched them yet, but will do so soon. We also have a 32". -----signature----- No fear hath ye of evil curses, says you. Arrrrrrr. Properly warned ye be, says I.
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Danpa_Wamem Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 10/4/06 9:19am Subject: RE: DVD release event, Sept 12
	What does everyone think of the "new" DVDs? Is the picture quailty decent for the uneditied version? -----signature----- Member of the Jedi Assembly (Southern Order) & Rebel Legion (Kessel Base) http://www.myspace.com/danpa_wamem http://www.rebellegion.com/forum/costume.php?mode=view&c=3165 http://www.thejediassembly.com/members.php?id=e9d9d
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DarthButt Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jun '03	Date Posted: 10/4/06 10:33am Subject: RE: DVD release event, Sept 12
	See my comments above
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Count_Dough-ku Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 10/9/06 7:48am Subject: RE: DVD release event, Sept 12
	So did anyone else pass on these DVDs? I have to admit, I really have no desire to pick them up. Unless they're selling for 10 bucks or cheaper on clearance, I think I'm pretty much done with Star Wars on standard def DVD. Non-anamorphic transfers are inexcusable in this day and age. Hell, even good-looking anamorphic DVDs look like ass now after witnessing what HD-DVD can do. For those of you avoiding temptation to upgrade to HD, DO NOT watch Batman Begins. It's the sickest looking and sounding thing I've ever witnessed on home video. -----signature----- "I should really learn to knock....in case there's a threesome going on in my bedroom." - Sandy Cohen, The O.C.
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Danpa_Wamem Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 10/9/06 4:54pm Subject: RE: DVD release event, Sept 12
	DarthButt posted: See my comments above Sorry about that ... -----signature----- Member of the Jedi Assembly (Southern Order) & Rebel Legion (Kessel Base) http://www.myspace.com/danpa_wamem http://www.rebellegion.com/forum/costume.php?mode=view&c=3165 http://www.thejediassembly.com/members.php?id=e9d9d
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Danpa_Wamem Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 10/9/06 5:01pm Subject: RE: DVD release event, Sept 12 - Date Edited: 10/9/06 5:02pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Danpa_Wamem
	I passed on buying the DVDs ... so far. I have bought the original trilogy 3 times but have 4 copies (one set was a gift). I am waiting on a massive box set (I can see George Lucas doing something like this in the future). A box set with every version of the films: original 70's/80's version, special editions & prequels plus deleted footage from the original triolgy - the stuff they've released on the "Behind The Magic CD-Rom" (which I have ... pretty neat stuff), and as a special bonus (I know I'm going way out on a limb here), the TV Holiday Special -----signature----- Member of the Jedi Assembly (Southern Order) & Rebel Legion (Kessel Base) http://www.myspace.com/danpa_wamem http://www.rebellegion.com/forum/costume.php?mode=view&c=3165 http://www.thejediassembly.com/members.php?id=e9d9d
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Darth-Stryphe Title: Saga Manager of Christmas Past Registered: Apr '01	Date Posted: 10/17/06 4:57pm Subject: RE: DVD release event, Sept 12
	Non-anamorphic transfers are inexcusable in this day and age. Hell, even good-looking anamorphic DVDs look like ass now after witnessing what HD-DVD can do. So have you lept into the format war, Adam? Given how much you like ESB, I would encourage buying it. I think the pic looks better than LD, you won't have to flip LDs and it will be years before GL does anything with SW and HD-DVD. -----signature----- Lord of the Script, it's FABULOUSO: http://boards.theforce.net/Star_Wars_Community/b10012/8237772/p1 The Desperate Road: http://boards.theforce.net/your_jedi_council_community/b10008/23481819/p1 I love you, lonely Dewback on the ridge Az Isten áldjon meg!
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Count_Dough-ku Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 10/17/06 7:12pm Subject: RE: DVD release event, Sept 12
	Darth-Stryphe posted: So have you lept into the format war, Adam? There was a great deal on the Toshiba HD-A1 HD-DVD player a few months back, so I picked one up. I now own 21 HD-DVD titles and should be approaching 40 by the end of November. SD-DVD looks like absolute crap compared to this format. Batman Begins is my new reference disc. Looks and sounds better than anything I've ever experienced on home video. And King Kong comes out in 4 weeks. That one's gonna be great. Darth-Stryphe posted: Given how much you like ESB, I would encourage buying it. I think the pic looks better than LD, you won't have to flip LDs and it will be years before GL does anything with SW and HD-DVD. I actually did pick them up. I used Google Checkout to order all 3 movies for 37 bucks and change shipped. Not a bad deal at all. Of course, if I'd just waited a few more days, I would've seen that Fry's was offering each title for $9.99. -----signature----- "I should really learn to knock....in case there's a threesome going on in my bedroom." - Sandy Cohen, The O.C.
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Darth-Stryphe Title: Saga Manager of Christmas Past Registered: Apr '01	Date Posted: 10/23/06 4:49pm Subject: RE: DVD release event, Sept 12
	Opps! Well, they are worth $37, even so. So who do you think will win the format war? I'm just glad both players are backwards compatible. Given my investiment in DVDs, I honestly have no intension of replacing them all to a newer format - even if they do look like crap in comparison (plus, I'll really have to hang on to me ST-OS DVDs now in their current boxset. Won't be seeing those again). I was most likely going to throw in with whoever was backwards compatible, but now that its not an issue I can wade it out. Neither format has much that I want yet. However, with Warner signing on for HD-DVD and HD-DVD players being much cheaper, I'm kind of rooting for them. Who did Fox and Paramount sign with? -----signature----- Lord of the Script, it's FABULOUSO: http://boards.theforce.net/Star_Wars_Community/b10012/8237772/p1 The Desperate Road: http://boards.theforce.net/your_jedi_council_community/b10008/23481819/p1 I love you, lonely Dewback on the ridge Az Isten áldjon meg!
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Count_Dough-ku Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 10/23/06 7:51pm Subject: RE: DVD release event, Sept 12
	Darth-Stryphe posted: So who do you think will win the format war? I'm just glad both players are backwards compatible. Given my investiment in DVDs, I honestly have no intension of replacing them all to a newer format - even if they do look like crap in comparison (plus, I'll really have to hang on to me ST-OS DVDs now in their current boxset. Won't be seeing those again). I was most likely going to throw in with whoever was backwards compatible, but now that its not an issue I can wade it out. Neither format has much that I want yet. However, with Warner signing on for HD-DVD and HD-DVD players being much cheaper, I'm kind of rooting for them. Who did Fox and Paramount sign with? Both HD-DVD and Blu-ray players are backwards compatible with SD-DVD. In fact, the Toshiba HD-A1 player I have not only plays regular DVDs, it upconverts them so they look even better. I watched Empire Strikes Back(the anamorphic Special Edition version) on my player and it looked really nice. Warner is supporting both formats. The only HD-DVD exclusive studio right now is Universal. I think they and Sony had a big falling out, so unless HD-DVD is on its deathbed, they'll never support Blu-ray. The other studios supporting HD-DVD are Warner, Paramount, and the Weinstein Company. They're all releasing their movies on both formats. The Blu-ray exclusive studios are Sony(obviously), Fox, Disney, and Lions Gate. There are rumors floating around that by no later than early next year, Disney and Lions Gate will start supporting HD-DVD as well. If so, that would only extend the format war. New Line said they're holding out til 2007, but they'll presumably support both formats. Lord of the Rings may not be released til 2008 however. The reason to go with HD-DVD right now is that it's half the price of Blu-ray(unless you pick up a Playstation 3) and the titles consistently look and sound better. Plus the standard codec on HD-DVD is VC-1 which allows more space so that no extras are dropped from the SD-DVD versions. Blu-ray tends to have MPEG-2 which eats up a lot more space and usually requires the studios to drop most if not all the extras. You would think long-term that Blu-ray has the edge with the Playstation 3 and greater studio support. But Sony's done such a pisspoor job with the launch of both the Blu-ray format and the PS3, that what should've been a cakewalk for them has turned into a full blown war that could end up resulting in neither HD format taking off with the public. I guess if you're not itching to upgrade to HD right now, the best bet is to wait another 6 months. By then we'll have a much better idea of how the software sales are doing for each format. Right now HD-DVD is outselling Blu-ray by at least 3 to 1(it's potentially as high as 11 to 1). And the title selection is far superior on HD-DVD. I don't know about you, but I'd much rather have Batman Begins, King Kong, and classics like The Adventures of Robin Hood in HD than Click, RV, and The Benchwarmers. But the PS3 could change all that. -----signature----- "I should really learn to knock....in case there's a threesome going on in my bedroom." - Sandy Cohen, The O.C.
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Darth-Stryphe Title: Saga Manager of Christmas Past Registered: Apr '01	Date Posted: 10/25/06 7:19pm Subject: RE: DVD release event, Sept 12
	Warner is supporting both formats. Wait, so are they releasing (planning on releasing) the same titles to both formats, or are they doing title/format exclusives? Example, Batman Begins, I've only seen it on HD-DVD, do they have plans on releasing it (and other HD-DVD titles) to Blue Ray? The Blu-ray exclusive studios are Sony(obviously), Fox, Disney, and Lions Gate. There are rumors floating around that by no later than early next year, Disney and Lions Gate will start supporting HD-DVD as well. If so, that would only extend the format war. How would that extend it? The reason to go with HD-DVD right now is that it's half the price of Blu-ray(unless you pick up a Playstation 3) and the titles consistently look and sound better. Plus the standard codec on HD-DVD is VC-1 which allows more space so that no extras are dropped from the SD-DVD versions. Blu-ray tends to have MPEG-2 which eats up a lot more space and usually requires the studios to drop most if not all the extras. Isn't that because Blu Ray uses less compression, thus getting better picture and sound? You would think long-term that Blu-ray has the edge with the Playstation 3 and greater studio support. But Sony's done such a pisspoor job with the launch of both the Blu-ray format and the PS3, that what should've been a cakewalk for them has turned into a full blown war that could end up resulting in neither HD format taking off with the public. What, then (in that event) would happen? SD-DVDs keep the playing field and HD discs loose out? I don't know about you, but I'd much rather have Batman Begins, King Kong, and classics like The Adventures of Robin Hood in HD than Click, RV, and The Benchwarmers. But the PS3 could change all that. Agreed. There is still crucial titles I would want from Fox (nothing from Sony -- I love Spider-Man, but if the up-push on the HD-DVD improves picture as you say, that's probably enough for those), but in turn I like the more features, better selection and cheaper players more than anything Blu Ray has. For the time being, it's irrelevant since I don't have a HD-TV, but I hear prices are dropping on those significantly next year, so maybe by year's end I'll have one. But this format war bothers me. If I am going to be in a position to upgrade within a two year timeframe, I don't want to really be picking up much in the way of standard DVDs right now. In turn, I DEFINITELY don't want to get stuck with a format that doesn't take off. Although, most of what I am wanting right now is TV boxsets and while I am sure 24 looks great in high def, I can't see that it is really going to effect my enjoyment of that show (and shows like it), so SD-DVD it is for me, for the time being. -----signature----- Lord of the Script, it's FABULOUSO: http://boards.theforce.net/Star_Wars_Community/b10012/8237772/p1 The Desperate Road: http://boards.theforce.net/your_jedi_council_community/b10008/23481819/p1 I love you, lonely Dewback on the ridge Az Isten áldjon meg!
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Count_Dough-ku Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 10/25/06 8:30pm Subject: RE: DVD release event, Sept 12
	Wait, so are they releasing (planning on releasing) the same titles to both formats, or are they doing title/format exclusives? Example, Batman Begins, I've only seen it on HD-DVD, do they have plans on releasing it (and other HD-DVD titles) to Blue Ray? Warner and Paramount are already releasing titles on both formats. There are some that have yet to be announced for Blu-ray(Batman Begins and The Adventures of Robin Hood for example), but I would assume at some point in the near future, they'll be available. Both studios are including the same extras as the SD-DVD versions on both HD-DVD and Blu-ray, although HD-DVD for the time being is the only HD format that gets features like IME and Dolby TrueHD. IME(In-Movie Experience) is a picture-in-picture feature that runs during the movie. It's sort of a cross between an audio commentary and a behind-the-scenes documentary. It's really cool and is starting to be included with more big name titles like Batman Begins, Terminator 3, and Mission: Impossible III. The one on The Bourne Supremacy is still my favorite though. They actually featured an interview with a psychologist on that one! Dolby TrueHD is a lossless audio format that only the Toshiba HD-DVD players support right now. The Samsung Blu-ray player doesn't, although the PS3 reportedly will. The only TrueHD title I have right now is Batman Begins, but it sounds incredible. That may be part of the reason Warner is delaying that movie on Blu-ray. They don't wanna drop the TrueHD track, so they're waiting for players that'll support it. How would that extend it? If additional studios go neutral and start supporting HD-DVD as well as Blu-ray, it could drag out the format war for years. Neither will become dominant since HD-DVD and Blu-ray owners could pick up virtually any title on either format. On the flipside, if Universal(the only HD-DVD exclusive studio) announced they were supporting Blu-ray, HD-DVD would be dead. Of course, that won't happen for a long time, if ever. Isn't that because Blu Ray uses less compression, thus getting better picture and sound? Nope. MPEG-2 is the codec used on SD-DVDs. VC-1 is what Microsoft designed in order to offer top notch picture and sound without eating up disc space. But Sony has a stake in MPEG-2 which is why they refuse to abandon it. The end result is the titles they've released on single-layer Blu-ray discs have been forced to drop extras. And now that dual-layer discs(which offer 50 GB of space vs. the 30 GB on a dual-layer HD-DVD disc) have finally become a reality, even all that additional space isn't making much of a difference. Click was the first 50 GB Blu-ray release and the general consensus is that the transfer is decent at best. This despite all those gigs and with the movie being shot digitally(those usually look great on DVD). What, then (in that event) would happen? SD-DVDs keep the playing field and HD discs loose out? The more likely scenario is that someday in the distant future we're all downloading HD quality film and TV content instead of buying it on discs. If this format war doesn't go away soon, HD-DVD and Blu-ray are doomed to be a slightly more popular second coming of laserdiscs. Agreed. There is still crucial titles I would want from Fox (nothing from Sony -- I love Spider-Man, but if the up-push on the HD-DVD improves picture as you say, that's probably enough for those), but in turn I like the more features, better selection and cheaper players more than anything Blu Ray has. That's the killer right there. Fox. They own the Die Hard series, X-Men, 24, Alien, several James Cameron films, and they also distribute something you might've heard of called Star Wars. Plus let's not forget they're also handling the MGM library now which means movies like the James Bond series. Although I read somewhere that if MGM decides they wanna support HD-DVD, it's their call. For the time being, it's irrelevant since I don't have a HD-TV, but I hear prices are dropping on those significantly next year, so maybe by year's end I'll have one. But this format war bothers me. If I am going to be in a position to upgrade within a two year timeframe, I don't want to really be picking up much in the way of standard DVDs right now. In turn, I DEFINITELY don't want to get stuck with a format that doesn't take off. Although, most of what I am wanting right now is TV boxsets and while I am sure 24 looks great in high def, I can't see that it is really going to effect my enjoyment of that show (and shows like it), so SD-DVD it is for me, for the time being. HDTVs are a lot more affordable now. Especially depending on how large of a screen you need. I just picked up a 32" Samsung LCD(which also doubles as my monitor) for a little over 1200 bucks online recently. I did also pay for shipping and a 5-year warranty, but the total cost still ended up coming out to around $1500 when all was said and done. That's half of what I paid for my rear-projection HDTV 5 years ago. Granted that sucker is 55", but it's also rear-projection instead of LCD and takes up a lot more space. I'm hardly buying any SD-DVDs these days. Mostly TV shows or obscure titles that could take years to hit HD. Or something like X-Men 3 which would be Blu-ray exclusive since it's from Fox. I disagree about TV shows being adequate in 480p. Maybe I'm ok with that now since there are no TV series available in HD, but once Smallville Season 5 comes out on HD-DVD on Nov. 28, all that will change. I've seen Smallville on The CW in HD and it blows away the SD-DVDs. Granted, the show is mediocre, but there's no arguing the difference in video and audio presentation. And wait til next year when Universal inevitably releases the first season of Heroes on HD-DVD. There's no way in hell I'll settle for that on SD-DVD. Battlestar Galactica is another series they're planning on releasing that'll likely put the current DVDs to shame. I still maintain that you should wait at least 6 months before considering an upgrade to either format. See what the PS3 does for Blu-ray sales. And see if those Disney and Lion's Gate HD-DVD rumors pan out. Plus it wouldn't hurt to wait for newer players to hit the market. That's when HD will become more affordable. -----signature----- "I should really learn to knock....in case there's a threesome going on in my bedroom." - Sandy Cohen, The O.C.
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DarthButt Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jun '03	Date Posted: 10/26/06 8:31pm Subject: RE: DVD release event, Sept 12
	Honestly I'd still wait even longer. I don't think the Blu-Ray/HDDVD war will be over in six months. I'd give it another year, and things should be a bit more defined. From what I've read here and there, they are recommending another year and a half for that. Plus costs will go down considerably in that time for all of it.
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Danpa_Wamem Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 1/5/07 7:48am Subject: RE: DVD release event, Sept 12
	I got the new DVDs for Christmas ... they look OK which is about what I excepted, I wasn't disappointed. -----signature----- Member of the Jedi Assembly (Southern Order) & Rebel Legion (Kessel Base) http://www.myspace.com/danpa_wamem http://www.rebellegion.com/forum/costume.php?mode=view&c=3165 http://www.thejediassembly.com/members.php?id=e9d9d
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Darth-Stryphe Title: Saga Manager of Christmas Past Registered: Apr '01	Date Posted: 1/5/07 10:50am Subject: RE: DVD release event, Sept 12
	And now they are officially out of print. I wonder how long before they start to disappear. -----signature----- Lord of the Script, it's FABULOUSO: http://boards.theforce.net/Star_Wars_Community/b10012/8237772/p1 The Desperate Road: http://boards.theforce.net/your_jedi_council_community/b10008/23481819/p1 I love you, lonely Dewback on the ridge Az Isten áldjon meg!
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