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The Definitive Durge (Officialdom Implied | Spoilers Herein)
JediTrilobite
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Nov '99
Date Posted:
11/19/03 11:49am
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RE: The Difinitive Durge (Officialdom Implied | Spoilers Herein)
That just weirded me out...
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Syntax
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Date Posted:
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RE: The Difinitive Durge (Officialdom Implied | Spoilers Herein)
Huh? ?:|
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Even__Piell
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Date Posted:
11/19/03 12:57pm
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RE: The Difinitive Durge (Officialdom Implied | Spoilers Herein)
I liked the tentacles, but didn't like the colours.
And his upper body was
way
too big for his lower body.
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jedimasterED
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Oct '99
Date Posted:
11/19/03 12:58pm
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RE: The Difinitive Durge (Officialdom Implied | Spoilers Herein)
Chalk that up to artistic interpretation/license, but I know what you mean.
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Mateo
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Date Posted:
11/19/03 2:45pm
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RE: The Difinitive Durge (Officialdom Implied | Spoilers Herein)
The thing i dont understand is how can he reconnect himself if his arm and midsection were cauterized by Obi-Wan's Lightsaber?
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Valiento
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Date Posted:
11/19/03 2:46pm
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RE: The Difinitive Durge (Officialdom Implied | Spoilers Herein)
They weren't cauterized,
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Syntax
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Date Posted:
11/19/03 3:00pm
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RE: The Difinitive Durge (Officialdom Implied | Spoilers Herein)
That might be something I've got a problem with... them not being cauterized. Unless he separated himself BEFORE the hit and the two "parts" on either side of the upcoming cut pulled back before the lightsaber hit (which I guess isn't too unreasonable. His reflexes COULD be that fast, I suppose), some of it should have been cauterized.
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Valiento
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Date Posted:
11/19/03 3:44pm
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Ponda Baba's arm didn't look very cauterized in ANH, it was still bleeding,
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Syntax
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Aug '01
Date Posted:
11/19/03 4:33pm
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RE: The Difinitive Durge (Officialdom Implied | Spoilers Herein)
Is that somehow the
justification
for why Durge's cuts weren't cauterized?
Just because one movie had an "error" doesn't mean the cartoon can, too. You see, I TRIED to make up an explanation for why Durge's wounds weren't cauterized, but you have to admit, they SHOULD have been.
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Valiento
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Date Posted:
11/19/03 4:39pm
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RE: The Difinitive Durge (Officialdom Implied | Spoilers Herein)
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Valiento
Why would the first star wars film be an error? Lucas knew what he wanted to happen in that film, and he filmed it the way he wanted it to be. If he didn't want that arm to be bloody, he could have left the blood out, but blood he chose,
. If a film is filmed the way he wanted it to be it, is not necessarily an error if he chose to have it have blood.
Darth Maul didn't appear to be cauterized either, he bled in fine spray of blood when he was cut in two,
. Lucas knew what he was wanting to do in that scene in that film as well,
.
Don't always assume that you think you know better than what Lucas wanted for his own stories...
What it means is wounds don't always appear to get cauterized by sabers, and that's according to Lucas own direction...
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Syntax
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Date Posted:
11/19/03 4:48pm
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RE: The Difinitive Durge (Officialdom Implied | Spoilers Herein)
Maul bled in a fine spray of blood at first... and then didn't bleed at all after that. Ever seen someone get sawed in half? Blood should be everywhere, especially as Maul falls down the shaft in two pieces.
Seeing as how that didn't happen, he got cauterized (even though there was some blood. That's not unrealistic for a cauterized wound).
The point is, it's an established fact from canon sources that 98% of the time, lightsaber blades burn and cauterize wounds. I think it'd be a little amiss to just shrug off the 2% and say "Oh, it just happened
that way
that one time" instead of coming up with an explanation for WHY it didn't cauterize.
As stated, I tried to come up with an explanation for why Durge's wounds weren't cauterized.
As an aside, I've heard
rumors
(yes,
rumors
) that when the OT comes out on DVD, the whole "Ponda Baba arm scene" will be altered to have Baba's arm be cauterized instead of bleeding. Of course, these are merely
rumors
at this point, and I am treating them as such until there is further data.
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CooperTFN
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Jul '99
Date Posted:
11/19/03 4:56pm
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RE: The Difinitive Durge (Officialdom Implied | Spoilers Herein)
Lucas knew what he wanted to happen in that film, and he filmed it the way he wanted it to be.
Right. Like Han shooting first.
Are we really debating why
Durge
wasn't cauterized? Seeing as how the severed limb actually started connecting back together after all of 10 seconds, I'd say it's reasonable to assume any burning that occured from the slice probably healed away in the first second or two.
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jedimasterED
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Date Posted:
11/19/03 5:04pm
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RE: The Difinitive Durge (Officialdom Implied | Spoilers Herein)
I personally prefer the explanation that his phsysiology kept the wound from being cauterized. I mean, c'mon, splitting apart just before the blade passes through him?! Seems as equally an outlandish explanation as the Ponda Baba explanation.
However, the compromise is that he didn't get cauterized due to his Gen'Dai phsyiology (either it allows him to split apart real quick-like or it possesses some characteristic that keeps him from being cauterized by ligthsabers).
I would prefer not to get bogged down by an arguement over the realism of a make-believe alien physiology coming in contact with make-believe "laser swords."
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Valiento
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Date Posted:
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Valiento
Its not an error even starwars.com treats it as part of the canon, and continuity;
"This mean-spirited Aqualish attempted to pick a fight with Luke Skywalker when the young farmboy first set foot in the Mos Eisley Cantina. The tusk-mouthed thug soon learned not to tangle with the ward of a Jedi, as Obi-Wan Kenobi intervened with a flash of his lightsaber. The thug immediately dropped both the issue and
his bloody severed arm
."-starwars.com
Not only that but as I recall various repeats of that scene in the EU talk about it being bloody as well.
In anything trying to change that scene would only cause errors in established continuity...
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CooperTFN
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Date Posted:
11/19/03 5:24pm
Subject:
RE: The Difinitive Durge (Officialdom Implied | Spoilers Herein)
personally prefer the explanation that his phsysiology kept the wound from being cauterized.
Yeah, that works too. And it's not like they disregarded the heat aspect altogether; Durge's armor glowed for a second after the cuts, so if he wasn't cauterized, it's because they specifically didn't want him to be cauterized.
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