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Valiento Registered: Mar '00	Date Posted: 5/19/03 11:00pm Subject: RE: Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Glove of Darth Vader, But Were Afraid to Ask... - Date Edited: 5/19/03 11:04pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Valiento
	"It gave us the planet Duros" Actually Duros existed in WEG beforehand, as its early empire incarnation. But GODV did give us a new post-rotj vision of duros, that was refrenced in Balance Point. "the planet Chadd" That's Chad, actually, and it existed in WEG material as well, fairly the same in many ways, but the davids did add some material as well. "Human replica droids (BEFORE shadows of the Empire)" Indeed they invented those, and other sources refrenced them. "the Hodin race" WEG creation again, from Galaxy Guide 4 or 5, IIRC. Actually most of the stuff that they researched, came from the various Galaxy Guide books, but they they came up with quite a bit of original stuff too. "holographic funworld (which is a fun concept)" True they invented that. For further info check out the GODV refrence thread. "Moffel" Doesn't actually exist in the books. "was Ken killed by Anakin solo in a lightsaber duel, thus making him fufill the prophecy about him being the greatest jedi ever" No, not at all...
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darth_melvin Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 5/20/03 7:04am Subject: RE: Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Glove of Darth Vader, But Were Afraid to Ask...
	"holographic funworld..." I just read several of the Galaxy of Fear books and one of the settings is a holographic funworld (I think it was book 4 or 5). Does GODV have one too? -----signature----- Spoiler free 'til Episode VII "Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny." "A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack." - Guess the Sith aren't the only ones that deal in absolutes
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Valiento Registered: Mar '00	Date Posted: 5/20/03 4:12pm Subject: RE: Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Glove of Darth Vader, But Were Afraid to Ask...
	It's the same place. Galaxy of Fear refrenced GODV by using it.
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Esplin9466 Registered: Oct '02	Date Posted: 5/21/03 2:54pm Subject: RE: Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Glove of Darth Vader, But Were Afraid to Ask...
	Impressive. Most impressive. I eagerly await the next installment. -----signature----- Nom Anor WILL return . . . eventually! Recipient of the Golden Ewok™ No-Prize. "Why . . . why did she choose you? What makes you able to defeat me, defeat me here?" "The place is not what matters, it is the man."
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Rogue_Ten Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 5/21/03 3:16pm Subject: RE: Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Glove of Darth Vader, But Were Afraid to Ask...
	I just read several of the Galaxy of Fear books and one of the settings is a holographic funworld (I think it was book 4 or 5). That was #4, The Nightmare Machine. One of the best GoFs, too. -----signature----- Hey. It's been two months. Whutdupwitdat. Send the above request? No_______Yes
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TalonCard Title: •Author: Slave Pits of Lorrd •TFN EU Staff Registered: Jan '01	Date Posted: 5/22/03 11:14pm Subject: RE: Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Glove of Darth Vader, But Were Afraid to Ask...
	Glove of Darth Vader, Chapter Three: The Seven Words of Trioculus A few notes I'll make here: Yes, the Davids decided to name each and every chapter, (one piece of evidence to support my theory that these people were paid by the word) and no, they weren't very good at it. Also, "Trioculus" is pronounced "Try-ock-you-luss". To completely understand GODV, it is imperative that you be able to pronounce this correctly. I'd suggest that you practice saying "Try-ock-you-luss" loudly and spontaneously at school, work, or in a crowded movie theater (see if you can hijack the PA system for this purpose. Share the love.) I realize that this has about a snowball's chance on Tatooine of happening, but to quote Lando Calrissian "The possibilities keep me entertained." Anyway, Trioculus is hungry, due mostly to the exertion involved (for him) in forming coherent sentences. So, he and his party pile into an "armored landspeeder limousine", and travel to Trioculus' palace. A new character is introduced, the evil droid EM-5. According to the index in the back of the book, Emdee shares a close relationship with Trioculus, comparable to that of Luke's relationship to Threepio and Artoo, only in an evil way. Emdee has many skills, which will be demonstrated later in the book This is a rather interesting concept that I thought deserved further exploration. Of course, due to some rather inept planning by the Davids, Emdee later becomes superfluous and is dropped without explanation several books down the line. Trioculus holds a banquet. In attendance are a small, select group of Grand Moffs loyal to Trioculus, all of whom are also important members of the Central Committee, as well as a Grand Admiral from the planet Gargon. When I first read this book, I thought that Grand Admiral Grunger had been invited for dinner, but not so. This is another Grand Admiral from Gargon, which confused the heck out of me. Just how many Grand Admirals does that place turn out? But the excellent Grand Admiral article in Insider #66 explains that this is Grand Admiral Miltin Takel, a brilliant but often spiced tactician. It turns out that Takel was assigned to Gargon, but accepted a posting on the Death Star II, and Grunger came in as Takel's replacement. Takel was able to escape the Death Star's explosion, but he found that Grunger had set himself up as a warlord, bullying surrounding Imperial fleets into contributing to his own massive collection of Star Destroyers (you don't find those things in a cereal box, ya know!) Takel failed to recapture the region, earning the wrath of Ysanne Isard. Takel took refuge on Kessel, hoping to ally himself with the Central Committee, and he already feels a strange connection with Trioculus, who will hopefully deal with Grunger eventually. If Takel plays his cards right, he could work his way into commanding the Imperial Fleet, and maybe, just maybe, he'll manage to get Gargon back. The Grand Moffs from the Central Committee present are Hissa, Dunhausen, Muzzer, and Thistleborn. There's nothing that really stands out about this bunch. There are no ruthless and brilliant men here, no Tarkins or Four-Atesees. These people are obviously here to be controlled by Hissa. The only noteworthy thing about any of them is Grand Moff Duhausen's laser pistol-shaped earrings. Weird sort of fashion statement there, even for the GFFA. One wonders if those earrings are functional in addition to being decorative (like Agent 99's earrings in "Get Smart!") One of the dishes served is Whaladon meat. Whaladons are (surprise, surprise!) whale-like creatures native to Mon Calamari, also known simply as Calamari, or Dac. This planet is also, as you probably know, home to Admiral Ackbar's people, the Mon Calamari, and Tessek's people, the Qurran. Whaladons are highly intelligent, and it is a crime to hunt them. Unfortunately, and in spite of the fact that Mon Calamari is an important member of the Republic, there are more Whaladon hunters than ever on the planet. They are led by a rather nasty character, one Captain Dunwell. He is a ruthless butcher, and so it should come as no surprise that he is a trusted friend of the Committee. While dessert is being served, Trioculus addresses his guests with a booming voice, saying "Find me the glove of Darth Vader!" (That's seven, count 'em, seven words there. Good to know that the Davids can count.) Then he stares at them with his third eye, causing them to shudder (geez, does this guy know how to ruin dessert, or what?) It may seem silly for a glove to be of such importance, but the influence of the Prophets of the Dark Side is such that if Trioculus cannot find the glove, then many of the major Imperial factions will not pledge their loyalty to him, son of Palpatine or no. And if someone else finds it, then the Prophets may declare that being to be the new Emperor, and much of the Empire may move to dispose Trioculus and the Central Committee. Hissa is undoubtedly furious at the false Prophets--after all, they were supposed to be supporting the Committee. Whatever the Prophet's true motives are at this point, they certainly are not compatible with those of the Committee. So everyone in the Empire loyal to Trioculus has been commanded to search for the glove, and to turn it over to the Emperor at once if he or she should find it. Of course, any average Zev could become the new Emperor if he were to find the glove, but I don't think anyone has thought that far ahead yet. Heck, it's hard enough to find a single glove in a vast galaxy. The odds of finding it are... Not good. (I'm working on the rest, and will post it later.) -----signature----- Death in the Slave Pits: http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/fiction/feature20090531/index.html GODV Guide: www.myuselessknowledge.com/swfa/main.html Hyperspace Blog: http://blogs.starwars.com/taloncard
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Mr44 Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 5/23/03 7:43am Subject: RE: Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Glove of Darth Vader, But Were Afraid to Ask...
	and the central theme of the last passage is..... "There's nothing that really stands out about this bunch." That has got to be the greatest understatement of the GFFA...... -----signature----- When you enter a room full of armed men, shoot the first person who makes a move- hostile or otherwise He has started to think and is therefore dangerous... -- Colonel "Paddy" Mayne, co-founder of the SAS
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Isbeth Title: Maryland FanForce Hos pitality Mistress Registered: Aug '01	Date Posted: 5/23/03 2:53pm Subject: RE: Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Glove of Darth Vader, But Were Afraid to Ask...
	I can't believe Talon is doing a chapter by chapter breakdown of this book! -----signature----- "We are not saints, but seekers", Obi Wan quoting Jedi wisdom in THE DARK RIVAL, J.A. # 2. "I want to see the color of your eyes in the wind at my side"-Xanatos in Ashes by Lia Jinn Inside Outer Space, Visit Your Local Planetarium. Gold 2,Lt.Colonel,EUDF
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Valiento Registered: Mar '00	Date Posted: 5/23/03 3:18pm Subject: RE: Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Glove of Darth Vader, But Were Afraid to Ask... - Date Edited: 5/23/03 3:21pm (3 edits total) Edited By: Valiento
	"The Grand Moffs from the Central Committee present are Hissa, Dunhausen, Muzzer, and Thistleborn. There's nothing that really stands out about this bunch. There are no ruthless and brilliant men here, no Tarkins or Four-Atesees." You know I wouldn't say that Four-Atesee was any more brilliant than the grand moffs in GODV, his plans failed, his prototype was stolen by rebels, and he had to get it back. He was was disabled in the end as well. Ruthless yes, but no more than most of the grand moffs in GODV(ruthless doesn't equate to competance). Even tarkin calls himself a "failure, and not diserving of forgiveness by the emperor", in his last will and testament in the story, "Rogue Squadron to the Rescue". So while he might have been brilliant, and ruthless like the lot of Grand Moffs, he was also incompetant, like most grand moffs, as the Emperor also points out after the Loss of the Death Star, and Tarkin's special Gravity Well Projector in the story "Total Destruction". "Whaladons are highly intelligent, and it is a crime to hunt them." They aren't just intelligant, they are completely sentient species, as sentient as the Calamari, or the Quarren. "Mon Calamari, also known simply as Calamari, or Dac" For anyone wondering; An early report in the pages of Bantha Tracks, the old Star Wars Fan Club newsletter listed Ackbar as a Mon Calamari from the "water planet Dac." -starwars.com databanks "In Star Wars, Princess Leia leads only a small part of the Rebel Alliance. The Commander of the entire Rebel Fleet is Admiral Ackbar -- a member of the Mon Calamari race of highly intelligent master chess players from the planet Dac." - Maureen Garrett Director, The Official Star Wars Fan Club Bantha Tracks #17 August, 1982" -Classic Moments
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Rogue_Ten Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 5/23/03 6:25pm Subject: RE: Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Glove of Darth Vader, But Were Afraid to Ask...
	You gotta give Four-AteSee credit, though. I mean, Grand Moff, and IG assasin droid? Pretty damn cool. Not to mention his hover abilities... -----signature----- Hey. It's been two months. Whutdupwitdat. Send the above request? No_______Yes
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TalonCard Title: •Author: Slave Pits of Lorrd •TFN EU Staff Registered: Jan '01	Date Posted: 5/23/03 9:13pm Subject: RE: Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Glove of Darth Vader, But Were Afraid to Ask...
	>You know I wouldn't say that Four-Atesee was any more brilliant than the grand moffs in GODV, his plans failed, his prototype was stolen by rebels, and he had to get it back. He was was disabled in the end as well. Ruthless yes, but no more than most of the grand moffs in GODV(ruthless doesn't equate to competance).< I was thinking more of Four-Atesee's initiative. He came up with plots all on his own, for the glory of the Empire. So did Tarkin. Admittedly neither one is getting any awards for competence (Atesee got hit with a droid disabler, Tarkin refused to leave the Death Star) but at least they tried. None of the Grand Moffs in GODV with the exception of Hissa shows any sort of initiative; they seem to be there for Trioculus and Hissa to manipulate and use. They are hard pressed to come up with suggestions when their Emperor calls for them, for example. Comparitively speaking, Grand Moffs Tarkin and Atesee are ruthless and brilliant (of course, compared to this bunch, so would your average Pakled, but that's beside the point! ) But then, that's just my interpretation. >They aren't just intelligant, they are completely sentient species, as sentient as the Calamari, or the Quarren.< I knew that! Although Isard's position in the galactic power circle may be uncertain, she holds Coruscant in a death grip, and no one really wants to approach Carida for fear of getting their heads blown off, or so I gather. So the next item of business on the agenda is this: the Empire needs a new, secret home base. This leads to a rather amusing bit, one that the Davids managed to pull off. Trioculus decides to hear suggestions for the location of the new base. The joke is the Palpatine never asked them for suggestions! These are the evil leaders of the galaxy, and they aren't quite sure what to say! They are literally squiring in their seats; this whole thing is entirely new to them. I find this rather funny. The other silly thing is that every one of the suggestions is a planet from the OT. While this was obviously intended as a reference point for those who had seen the films, it's still a little annoying. However, these planets probably fall in the space governed by those who suggest them (having the main Imperial base, even a secret one, in their space would be a feather in the cap of any Grand Moff.) Dunhausen suggests Tatooine, "We can take over the Mos Eisley spaceport!" Trioculus dismisses this suggestion. He doesn't want to bother eliminating Tusken Raiders and Jawas. This shows the somewhat strapped resources of the Empire at this point in time. At the height of Palpatine's power, Imperial dungeon ships swept through the galaxy, depopulating entire planets, and now Trioculus is concerned about Tuskens and Jawas. To be fair, the Tuskens are extremely dangerous when backed into a corner. The Jawas are no small threat either. Jabba the Hutt had pushed them out of the salvage business before he died, and the starving Jawas had no choice but to go against their natures and learn some of the Hutt's tricks. Two Jawas nearly toppled the Rebel Alliance's supervapourator project, and an entire group recruited for a salvage mission to Endor mutinied and set themselves up as highwayrodents. Some denizens of Mos Eisley consider them to be almost as dangerous as the Tuskens, although with Jabba gone the Jawas have been showing signs of returning to their former lifestyles. After a long silence, Grand Moff Thistleborn suggests Bespin, saying that the Empire can take over Cloud City. This is a ridicules suggestion, even for a GODV Moff. Darth Vader's minions took over Cloud City after Lando Calrissian left, and Imperial forces set up a factory barge for building weapons and mining tibanna gas on Bespin itself. The Empire evacuated Cloud City after a Ugnaught bomb threat (probably to the factory barge). Lando and Luke saved the City and gave control to the Ugnaughts, hoping that reports of the City's destruction would keep the Empire from returning. It didn't, and Calrissian was forced to return after the Battle of Endor with a group of commandos to boot the Empire out for good. He succeeded, and became Baron-Administrator once more, but the Empire continued to operate their factory barge. It would cost too much for the Empire to reestablish control of Cloud City, and Trioculus dismisses the idea, saying that the airborne metropolis would hardly be a fit place to train their troops in any case. (still working on the rest...) -----signature----- Death in the Slave Pits: http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/fiction/feature20090531/index.html GODV Guide: www.myuselessknowledge.com/swfa/main.html Hyperspace Blog: http://blogs.starwars.com/taloncard
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 5/24/03 4:45am Subject: RE: Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Glove of Darth Vader, But Were Afraid to Ask...
	On this end I think actually you have to give the Glove of Darth vader credit that they actually used the Grand Moffs to any sort of effect in the story. Grand Moff Ravik had the ruthlessness to actually intend to use biotechnology as hideous as the Yuzzhan Vong and Grand Moff Kane created the Pentastar Alignment which is almost unique as a warlord state that actually lasted until Palpatine. But about the rest we know nothing... The Glove of Darth Vader books are about Hissa's plot and as an adult I have the fertile imagination to ask myself what countless atrocities and crimes the men assembled at the table might have engaged in for their particular positions. Like warlord Zsinn they remain in their own way villains to fill in the blanks of atrocities
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Mr44 Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 5/24/03 7:20am Subject: RE: Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Glove of Darth Vader, But Were Afraid to Ask...
	"...evacuated Cloud City after an Ugnaught bomb threat.." especially after Ugnaughts eat chili dogs! sorry......couldn't resist.... -----signature----- When you enter a room full of armed men, shoot the first person who makes a move- hostile or otherwise He has started to think and is therefore dangerous... -- Colonel "Paddy" Mayne, co-founder of the SAS
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Esplin9466 Registered: Oct '02	Date Posted: 5/29/03 1:40pm Subject: RE: Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Glove of Darth Vader, But Were Afraid to Ask...
	Darn you, Mr44! You and your Ugnaughts have killed this fine thread! -----signature----- Nom Anor WILL return . . . eventually! Recipient of the Golden Ewok™ No-Prize. "Why . . . why did she choose you? What makes you able to defeat me, defeat me here?" "The place is not what matters, it is the man."
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TalonCard Title: •Author: Slave Pits of Lorrd •TFN EU Staff Registered: Jan '01	Date Posted: 5/29/03 9:53pm Subject: RE: Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Glove of Darth Vader, But Were Afraid to Ask...
	Not so! I'm working on another section; give me time. I do have a life (provided you use that term loosely.) TC -----signature----- Death in the Slave Pits: http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/fiction/feature20090531/index.html GODV Guide: www.myuselessknowledge.com/swfa/main.html Hyperspace Blog: http://blogs.starwars.com/taloncard
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