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Rogue_Ten Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 10/18/03 10:18am Subject: RE: The Vong are... Klingons? (minor TFP spoilers)
	Yeah, they did it totally admittedly and on purpose. They gave the ship the callsign "Red Flight" for the mission. BTW: For those who don't know, this is in reference to the episode of StarGate: SG-1 entitled Fallen. -----signature----- Hey. It's been two months. Whutdupwitdat. Send the above request? No_______Yes
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TigerCraneFist Registered: Sep '02	Date Posted: 10/18/03 11:02am Subject: RE: The Vong are... Klingons? (minor TFP spoilers)
	Hmmm.... I think at least half of those words look like Chinese and/or other southeast-asian languages.. I'd say both Klingon/Klingonese/Klingongish-yadda-yadda-whatever and Vong/Vongish/Vongonese ( ) have borrowed from those languages.. -----signature----- Two Beat Productions - we think in 2.35:1 http://youtube.com/2BProd "Backs the **** away from TigerCraneFist" --Ryan_W
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Master_DuSai Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 10/18/03 2:45pm Subject: RE: The Vong are... Klingons? (minor TFP spoilers)
	Vongspeak isn't Chinese. Though many SW movies and books directly steal words from other languages and make them into character names, like the Commerce Guild leader who is on most Dim-sum menus. There are some minor similarities at the sylabilic level with Tibetan but the translated meanings have no significance with character traits. -----signature----- Winner of the coveted Golden Ewok™ & the first ever packet of the NEW (!!) Shadeleader & McEwok Fun-Sized Golden Ewoks™ (made with 100% Real Borskolate) You can't stop the change, any more than you can stop the suns from setting." - Shmi Skywalker
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Pelranius Registered: Apr '03	Date Posted: 10/18/03 11:29pm Subject: RE: The Vong are... Klingons? (minor TFP spoilers)
	It sounded vaguely German and Japanese if you ask me, but much more guttural. starts speculating about the similarities between Q and Palps -----signature----- Fleet Junkie and Proud! Fics: Destiny's Inferno (TTT/DE AU) And the Skywalker Saga KOTOR Style Updated 7/24/06 see bio for details
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darth_padawan Registered: Mar '00	Date Posted: 10/19/03 1:05pm Subject: RE: The Vong are... Klingons? (minor TFP spoilers)
	"Speaking of crossovers, could Boushh be a Breen?" nah. other way around. breen are ubese (or however its spelled). the breen didnt show up where we could actually SEE them (only heard their name) til the middle of deep space 9 (around '96 or so). a good decade plus after boushh first showed. when i first saw em, i was like "did lucas have a garage sale with a ton of boushh masks?" lol and to further make you all crazy, the vong invasion always reminded me of the dominion war, just more full on (the jem hadar are pansies compared to the vong!)
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Tiniwiel_Skywalker Registered: Oct '02	Date Posted: 10/19/03 2:15pm Subject: RE: The Vong are... Klingons? (minor TFP spoilers)
	Awwww MAN!!!!!! Does this mean that everytime my brother has called me a trekkie,they've been right? -----signature----- 5 out of 4 people have trouble with fractions! my name.......is Twinky! I'm here to save the planet!But not for free! Cookies need love,just like everything else!
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Errant_Venture Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Feb '02	Date Posted: 10/19/03 2:27pm Subject: RE: The Vong are... Klingons? (minor TFP spoilers)
	Damnit! Pulls out blaster and shoots himself in the mouth Somehow this does not come as a surprise to me. I do wish they could have invented their own words instead of falling back to Klingon. Though it kinda helps my theory on SW and it's origins. -----signature----- BSG Costume Group. Join the Fleet! http://www.colonialfleet.org REMOVE EV FROM POWAR PETITION http://www.petitiononline.com/nmev j00 bastards. it worked. Go frak yourself.
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Excellence Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 10/19/03 7:03pm Subject: RE: The Vong are... Klingons? (minor TFP spoilers)
	Amusing. What's the big reaction to the Star Trek connection? Is ST anthema for SWers? Nemesis was my first Star Trek movie at the cinema. I thought the special effects for such a film was excellent, the best of any ST film. But it was bloody noisy (when I saw the two flagships about to collide, I covered my ears; the speaker-amplified impact made it a prudent choice). The only Star Trek I know of is the recent three movies: First Contact, Insurrection and Nemesis. I haven't read any books and don't intend to. I don't like teleportation, a cheap trick of movement, or how a holodeck hologram can suddenly fire real bullets that kill. -----signature----- Rock-a-by baby, on the treetop, Beaming with pride, the filth they hold, But when the wind blows, my temper implodes, High above a pit, filled with sharkticons, Down will come hardcover addicts, beaming no more. ©
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Attack_Of_Da_Gnomes Registered: Jan '02	Date Posted: 10/19/03 7:44pm Subject: RE: The Vong are... Klingons? (minor TFP spoilers)
	Klingon speak is...CHINESE? OH god no!!! HURRY, DELETE THE THREAD BEFORE THE CHAOS SPREADS!! runs screaming -----signature----- Yes! I confess! I stole the captain's shoes while he was drunk! Read my bio. I dare you. A Beatles fan. Sie sehen alle Ihre Erinnerungen. Alle Ihre Erinnerungen und Ihre Ängste. To Bill Brasky!!
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LadyYoda Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 10/19/03 7:47pm Subject: RE: The Vong are... Klingons? (minor TFP spoilers)
	I am both a SW and ST fan (don't shoot, dont' shoot!). I find the similarities between the Klingon and Vong languages to be quite amusing, even if it sets a precedent never before touched with a twenty-foot lightsaber. I also am stuned at the creators of the Vong languages for not being more original (tribute or not, it is pretty close to plagarism). I did draw some similarities between the Klingon and the Vong myself, but I'm sure every SW/ST fan has. Warrior races are kinda archetypal in literature and mythology anyway. Paramount might want to consider suing, as it has been suggested before, but I think the SW writers will have enough on their grimy Jawa hands to deal with after the word spreads. Next, the comparision and theories about how SW/ST could be related is slightly interesting, but really disturbing at the same time. Please post no more pictures comparing Tarkin to Odo. That really scared the living Force out of me. I believe that many fans would keep a more stable state of mind if the two stayed apart. They were NOT meant to be together in any form. I really think someone should contact an upper authority about this whole thing. We need to search out the truth. (mockingly "Oh was that an allusion to the X-files? Oh no, the world is ending the universes are melding together... I must commit suicide with my lightsaber and phaser at the same time!) But above all have fun with this! -----signature----- "Who is more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?"
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Ultima_1 Registered: May '01	Date Posted: 10/19/03 8:43pm Subject: RE: The Vong are... Klingons? (minor TFP spoilers)
	I too am a fan of both sagas. I think that this connection is amusing, but not all that significant in the long run. -----signature----- Fanfic Padawan of NYCitygurl Legacy of the Force: Endgame http://boards.theforce.net/beyond_the_saga/b10477/28169084/p1/?1
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Kimball_Kinnison Registered: Oct '01	Date Posted: 10/19/03 9:29pm Subject: RE: The Vong are... Klingons? (minor TFP spoilers)
	Speaking as someone who can speak a bit of tlhIngan, and who has read Hamlet in the original tongue (tlhIngan), I can confirm that those are close to being from the true warrior's language. Qapla' Kimball Kinnison -----signature----- You deserve the wrath of Kimball...- OWM Why, Kimball... I didn't know you had it in you.- KW I think that Kimball just made a joke, and a funny joke at that.- Raven Stupidity got us into this mess, why can't it get us out?
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jawajames Title: Vice President/Chapt er Rep San Diego, CA Registered: Apr '02	Date Posted: 10/20/03 11:08am Subject: RE: The Vong are... Klingons? (minor TFP spoilers)
	" but I think the SW writers will have enough on their grimy Jawa hands to deal with after the word spreads. " hey... your comments seem to have an anti-jawa prejudice... "But above all have fun with this!" i am ... speaking of crossovers, anyone see the "X-files" episode of the B5 spinoff, Crusade.. basically some aliens (that dress like Mulder and Scully) are trying to uncover the big conspiracy on their planet that aliens are going to invade. their whole society is built on the belief that there is an alien conspiracy and gov't denies it.. and then real aliens to them (the Rangers) show up. -----signature----- Prophet of the Church of Waru. "Jawajames, can I have your girlfriend? Please?" - TalonCard and my eye just fell off...
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Genghis12 Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Nov '99	Date Posted: 10/20/03 11:58am Subject: RE: The Vong are... Klingons? (minor TFP spoilers)
	I just try to forget Crusade. -----signature----- ========== Intelligently Fitting The newer EU into Established Star Wars Continuity (Or How About a No-Prize) http://boards.theforce.net/message.asp?topic=1111146 "Envy the nations that have heroes. Pity the ones that need them." -- Van Zan
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Valiento Registered: Mar '00	Date Posted: 10/20/03 12:02pm Subject: RE: The Vong are... Klingons? (minor TFP spoilers)
	"read Hamlet in the original tongue (tlhIngan)" Eh...
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