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The2ndQuest Title: Manager: -Literature -LACWAC -Games Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 10/26/03 4:39pm Subject: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level - Date Edited: 10/26/03 4:41pm (1 edits total) Edited By: The2ndQuest
	With Rebel Strike coming out and it's levels taking place inbetween levels from the previous titles, as well as events from the other games, I figure there should be a thread arranging these levels, so people could theoretically play through everything and expierience to the storylines in chronological order. I'm gonna divide things up into a TOTJ/prequel era listing and a post-episode 3 up-to-NJO listing. I'm gonna start out with the latter, since I already had some inroads figuring out RL and RS's arrangement for the other thread. This mainly has just the Rogue Squadron series, but I figure people more familar with the other titles can add to it from there. Episode III to NJO: Rogue Leader: Tatooine Training Rebel Strike: Tatooine Training Rebel Strike: Death Star Rescue Rogue Leader: Death Star Escape Rogue Leader: Death Star Attack Rogue Squadron: Death Star Trench Run Rogue Leader: Triumph of the Empire (AU) Rebel Strike: Revenge of the Empire Rogue Leader: Revenge on Yavin (AU) Rogue Squadron: Beggar's Canyon Rogue Squadron: Ambush at Mos Eisley Rogue Squadron: Rendezvous on Barkesh Rogue Squadron: Search for the Nonnah Rogue Squadron: Defection on Corellia Rogue Squadron: Liberation of Gerrard V Rogue Squadron: The Jade Moon Rogue Squadron: Imperial Construction Yards Rogue Squadron: Assault on Kile II Rogue Squadron: Rescue on Kessel Rogue Squadron: Prisons of Kessel Rogue Squadron: Battle Above Taloraan Rogue Squadron: Escaoe From Fest Rogue Squadron: Blockade on Chandrila Rogue Squadron: Raid on Sullust Rogue Squadron: Moff Seerdon's Revenge Rebel Strike: Defiance on Dantooine Rebel Strike: Defenders of Ralltiir Rebel Strike: Extraction From Ralltiir (Dark Forces) Rogue Leader: Ison Corridor Ambush Rogue Leader: Battle of Hoth Rebel Strike: Battlefield Hoth Rogue Squadron: Battle of Hoth Rebel Strike: Escape From Hoth Rogue Leader: Asteroid Field Rebel Strike: Trials of a Jedi Rebel Strike: Flight From Bespin Rogue Leader: Prisoners of the Maw Rebel Strike: Raid at Bakura Rebel Strike: Relics of Geonosis Rebel Strike: Deception at Destrillion Rebel Strike: Guns of Dubrillion Rogue Leader: Razor Rendezvous Rogue Leader: Vengeance at Kothlis Rogue Leader: Imperial Academy Heist Rogue Leader: Raid on Bespin Rebel Strike: Fondor Shipyard Assault Rebel Strike: The Sarlacc Pit Rebel Strike: Speeder Bike Pursuit Rogue Leader: Battle of Endor Rebel Strike: Triumph of the Rebellion Rebel Strike: Attack on Executor Rogue Leader: Strike at the Core (Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight) (Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith) Rogue Squadron: Battle of Calamari (Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast) (Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy) Ison Corridor might happen earlier than it's current placement- I believe it's supposed to be the debut of the TIE Interceptor, and I think there were Interceptors in RS1. But the convoy in it is also supposed to be moving stuff between Yavin and Hoth, so I have it where it is currently. I'm not as familiar with the events in XW and TIE, so I'll let those more knowledgable about them to help determine their placement. -----signature----- "When your future self tells you to do something, YOU DO IT." K'Kruhk, 140 ABY:"Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..."
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Mavrick889 Registered: Feb '99	Date Posted: 10/26/03 5:18pm Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level - Date Edited: 10/26/03 5:26pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Mavrick889
	Two things: I have Ison Corridor right after the Evacuation of Yavin (and i dont remember the Tie Interceptor thing, especially since i just replayed that level)... also, i have the 4th, 5th, and 6th Luke levels of Rebel Strike happening before the first 3 of Rogue Squadron, simply because they dont have wedge in them, and we know wedge was busy for the few weeks after the evacuation of Yavin (6 months ABY), as seen in Planet Plague (GoF3) Also, Tie Fighter and X-Wing Alliance definately ties (no pun intended) into Rebel Strike (and each other), not to mention the Shadows of the Empire game. -----signature----- http://blogs.starwars.com/clibretto2/ A Member of the Star Wars Fanboy Association. http://www.myuselessknowledge.com/swfa
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ArsenicMan Registered: Aug '00	Date Posted: 10/26/03 5:51pm Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level
	1) Dark Forces's first level (I can't remember the name, and the blasted game won't run on XP) takes place before the Battle of Yavin, as it involves Kyle finding the Death Star plans. 2) Tours of Duty 1 & 2 from X-Wing go before the first mission of Dark Forces. Tour 3 picks up after said mission, and runs through ANH (the last mission is the Trench Run). Tours 4 and 5 are at some point between ANH and ESB, but I can't be any more specific than that off the top of my head. 3) TIE Fighter picks up after ESB, but ends before ROTJ. It may or may not overlap with X-Wing Alliance. 4) X-Wing Alliance includes the Suprosa mission (from Shadows of the Empire, as well as the run on the second Death Star at the very end. I'm pretty sure that it starts after ESB. 5) X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter: Balance of Power (the expansion which actually includes a single-player campaign) probably takes place after ESB, since it has Rogue Squadron not being led by Luke. I think that it's pre-ROTJ, though. 6) Technically, "Battle of Calamari" happens during Mysteries of the Sith, though when isn't really particular. (The game explains where Mara was during the whole Dark Empire saga.) Over Thanksgiving, I'll pull out my X-Wing, TIE Fighter, and Dark Forces strategy guides, and try to give you more useful information on them. -----signature----- Bearers of cute avatars unite!
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Blithe Registered: Jun '03	Date Posted: 10/26/03 6:11pm Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level
	Nice! Very impressive 2ndquest.
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JoruusCbaoth Registered: Apr '03	Date Posted: 10/26/03 6:14pm Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level
	ArsenicMan "2) Tours of Duty 1 & 2 from X-Wing go before the first mission of Dark Forces. Tour 3 picks up after said mission, and runs through ANH (the last mission is the Trench Run). Tours 4 and 5 are at some point between ANH and ESB, but I can't be any more specific than that off the top of my head." X-wing ends as late as 2 years after Yavin, though not having played through the later tours myself, I'm uncertain of further details. I know the Rebel fleet does escape to Hoth, and presumably, the Rebel base is established then. "3) TIE Fighter picks up after ESB, but ends before ROTJ. It may or may not overlap with X-Wing Alliance. " XWA and TIE Fighter basically run in parallel to each other, most notably a pre-defection (Grand?)Admiral Zaarin (wearing an olive-drab, not white uniform) throwing prototype TIEs at the Rebels. TIE Fighter ends as the Endor battle is going on ("We await word of the Emperor's final victory at Endor"), while XWA shows the battle itself. I've not seen anything in XWA to indicate that it started before Hoth, so I'm assuming it started about the same time. The lack of any other cross-canon missions (besides Zaarin and the Suprosa) that I can recall places it almost entirely in the post-ESB era. I'm looking forward to this thread going places, so I again give props to The2ndQuest -----signature----- Orignal Fleet Junkie
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The2ndRest-in-Peace Registered: Oct '02	Date Posted: 10/26/03 9:24pm Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level - Date Edited: 10/26/03 9:45pm (1 edits total) Edited By: The2ndRest-in-Peace
	>> Two things: I have Ison Corridor right after the Evacuation of Yavin (and i dont remember the Tie Interceptor thing, especially since i just replayed that level)...<< I figured it was either just before Hoth or right before Yavin...and I thought I remembered that being the Interceptor's debut, but you're right- the game doesn't say that, my mistake. >>also, i have the 4th, 5th, and 6th Luke levels of Rebel Strike happening before the first 3 of Rogue Squadron, simply because they dont have wedge in them, and we know wedge was busy for the few weeks after the evacuation of Yavin (6 months ABY), as seen in Planet Plague (GoF3) << Don't you mean the first three levels of Luke in Rebel Strike? (or 2nd, 3rd and 4th, depending on if you count Yavin) That's pretty good reasoning- I figured they had to be close to each other. -----signature----- Don't Feed the Plant! On a mountain of skulls, in the castle of pain, I sat on a throne of blood! What was will be! What is will be no more! Now is the season of evil!
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Matthew Trias Registered: Sep '99	Date Posted: 10/26/03 9:46pm Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level - Date Edited: 10/26/03 9:47pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Matthew Trias
	Eh. Zaarin was Grand Admiral. That's become fact. Just ignore what's on screen. After all Vice Admiral Thrawn wore a GA's unform. -----signature----- Bushator vs Kerryien Whoever wins, we lose. Buy Exo Squad on DVD! You Won't Be Disappointed
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Mavrick889 Registered: Feb '99	Date Posted: 10/26/03 9:48pm Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level
	nope, i mean the first 3 levels of the original RS game...since Wedge is hanging out with Luke on Tatooine (AND it being set 6 months ABY), it must occur sometime before Planet Plague (which says hes been on Gobindi for like 2 weeks or so...meaning he left for that mission right after the evacuation). The post Evac Luke missions w/ Luke could easily take place during this period time (when Wedge is on Gobindi) explaining where Wedge was during the missions. -----signature----- http://blogs.starwars.com/clibretto2/ A Member of the Star Wars Fanboy Association. http://www.myuselessknowledge.com/swfa
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The2ndRest-in-Peace Registered: Oct '02	Date Posted: 10/26/03 9:57pm Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level - Date Edited: 10/26/03 9:58pm (1 edits total) Edited By: The2ndRest-in-Peace
	So, revised, brings us, so far to this: Episode III to NJO: X-Wing: Tour of Duty 1: A New Ally X-Wing: Tour of Duty 2: The Great Search Dark Forces: Death Star Plans- Operation Skyhook: Phase 2 Rogue Leader: Tatooine Training Rebel Strike: Tatooine Training X-Wing: Tour of Duty 3: Imperial Pursuit Rebel Strike: Death Star Rescue Rogue Leader: Death Star Escape Rogue Leader: Death Star Attack Rogue Squadron: Death Star Trench Run Rogue Leader: Triumph of the Empire (AU) Rebel Strike: Revenge of the Empire Rogue Leader: Revenge on Yavin (AU) X-Wing: Tour of Duty 4: X-Wing: Tour of Duty 5: B-Wing Rogue Leader: Ison Corridor Ambush Rebel Strike: Defiance on Dantooine Rebel Strike: Defenders of Ralltiir Rebel Strike: Extraction From Ralltiir Rogue Squadron: Beggar's Canyon Rogue Squadron: Ambush at Mos Eisley Rogue Squadron: Rendezvous on Barkesh Rogue Squadron: Search for the Nonnah Rogue Squadron: Defection on Corellia Rogue Squadron: Liberation of Gerrard V Rogue Squadron: The Jade Moon Rogue Squadron: Imperial Construction Yards Rogue Squadron: Assault on Kile II Rogue Squadron: Rescue on Kessel Rogue Squadron: Prisons of Kessel Rogue Squadron: Battle Above Taloraan Rogue Squadron: Escaoe From Fest Rogue Squadron: Blockade on Chandrila Rogue Squadron: Raid on Sullust Rogue Squadron: Moff Seerdon's Revenge Dark Forces: After the Massacre Dark Forces: The Subterranean Hideout Dark Forces: Imperial Weapons Research Facility Dark Forces: The Blood Moon Dark Forces: Crix Madine's Fate Dark Forces: Deadly Cargo Dark Forces: Ice Station Beta Dark Forces: The Death Mark Dark Forces: Jabba's Revenge Dark Forces: The Imperial Mask Dark Forces: Smuggler's Hijack Dark Forces: The Stowaway Dark Forces: The Dark Awakening Rogue Leader: Battle of Hoth Rebel Strike: Battlefield Hoth Rogue Squadron: Battle of Hoth Rebel Strike: Escape From Hoth Rogue Leader: Asteroid Field Rebel Strike: Trials of a Jedi Rebel Strike: Flight From Bespin (TIE Fighter) (X-Wing Alliance) (X-Wing vs TIE Fighter) Rogue Leader: Prisoners of the Maw Rebel Strike: Raid at Bakura Rebel Strike: Relics of Geonosis Rebel Strike: Deception at Destrillion Rebel Strike: Guns of Dubrillion Rogue Leader: Razor Rendezvous Rogue Leader: Vengeance at Kothlis Rogue Leader: Imperial Academy Heist Rogue Leader: Raid on Bespin Rebel Strike: Fondor Shipyard Assault Rebel Strike: The Sarlacc Pit Rebel Strike: Speeder Bike Pursuit Rogue Leader: Battle of Endor Rebel Strike: Triumph of the Rebellion Rebel Strike: Attack on Executor Rogue Leader: Strike at the Core (Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight) (Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith) Rogue Squadron: Battle of Calamari (Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast) (Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy) I'll try to work in the SOTE levels tommorow...should be easy if we use the Razor/Kothlis missions to determine what SOTE levels happen before or after them in relation to discovery of the DS2 in SOTE's novel, etc. And, if the Suprosa ties into XWA (as does the Tyderium), that should give us an anchor for XWA's missions. Anyone want to tackle the GBG missions? -----signature----- Don't Feed the Plant! On a mountain of skulls, in the castle of pain, I sat on a throne of blood! What was will be! What is will be no more! Now is the season of evil!
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JoruusCbaoth Registered: Apr '03	Date Posted: 10/26/03 9:59pm Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level - Date Edited: 10/26/03 10:08pm (1 edits total) Edited By: JoruusCbaoth
	Matt "Eh. Zaarin was Grand Admiral. That's become fact. Just ignore what's on screen. After all Vice Admiral Thrawn wore a GA's unform." True. Though I'm sure there's a fix for it, but I have no idea what it is. Though I think Thrawn's promotion to GA was done in secret before it was done in public. The2ndQuest Do you plan on doing a detailed chronological breakdown of X-wing, TIE Fighter and XWA missions? I'd help out with that if so. -----signature----- Orignal Fleet Junkie
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ArsenicMan Registered: Aug '00	Date Posted: 10/26/03 10:40pm Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level
	I'm willing to do the same for X-Wing and TIE Fighter. -----signature----- Bearers of cute avatars unite!
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tyderium1111 Registered: Sep '03	Date Posted: 10/26/03 10:57pm Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level
	I could help out with Galactic Battlegrounds, and pretty much any other game. -----signature----- Tydirium with style. Tydirium...with an 'e'. "Most people - same job, same gig, doing the same thing 10 years from now. Us, we don't know what we are doing 10 minutes from now." Movie Scene of the Day: Night Club Madness (Collateral)
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Excellence Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 10/27/03 3:25am Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level
	In Rogue Squad 64: Battle of Calamari, Wedge calls his astromech Mynock when it would've been Gate. A slight error, but very minor, though you could easily excuse it any number of ways. -----signature----- Rock-a-by baby, on the treetop, Beaming with pride, the filth they hold, But when the wind blows, my temper implodes, High above a pit, filled with sharkticons, Down will come hardcover addicts, beaming no more. ©
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The2ndRest-in-Peace Registered: Oct '02	Date Posted: 10/27/03 7:16am Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level
	>> Do you plan on doing a detailed chronological breakdown of X-wing, TIE Fighter and XWA missions? I'd help out with that if so.<< Yeah, I'm hoping for a breakdown of the XW, TIE and XWvsTIE missions (and everything else, really) especially since they seem to interweave and all, and since most of tbose happen between ESB and ROTJ, it should be easy to lock in certain events. -----signature----- Don't Feed the Plant! On a mountain of skulls, in the castle of pain, I sat on a throne of blood! What was will be! What is will be no more! Now is the season of evil!
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Violento Registered: Oct '02	Date Posted: 10/27/03 7:20am Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level - Date Edited: 10/27/03 7:52am (13 edits total) Edited By: Violento
	"In Rogue Squad 64: Battle of Calamari, Wedge calls his astromech Mynock when it would've been Gate. A slight error, but very minor, though you could easily excuse it any number of ways." Oh, you are obviously forgetting the fact that Wedge Antilles was commanding the battle from a cap ship in the comic, not in a fighter, . I don't know if he got time to get into a fighter for a portion of the battle, between panels or not? However, if he did, he may have been using Mynock in the fighter he used, instead of Gate... IIRC, Gate/Mynock from the X-wing books was an R5 unit. The the Mynock from Rogue Squadron 3-D, was an R2 unit. A R2 unit nicknamed Mynock need not be the same R5 unit nicknamed Gate, but a different astromech altogether(wedge need not be the only one to have an astromech with a nickname, Mynock...) So there is no way that R5 Gate = R2 Mynock. If he had time to take part in the battle between scenes, he would have had to have been using a different astromech than Gate. In that case there is no error... To assume that they are the same astromech unit, on the other hand, takes great leaps of logic...
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ArsenicMan Registered: Aug '00	Date Posted: 10/27/03 7:36am Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level
	(why should wedge be the only one to nickname a r2 mynock, I'm sure others could have done the same before) Actually, Wedge didn't name it; he came named that way (after a specific personality trait). Gate was chosen by Wedge, though. To assume that they are the same r2 unit, on the other hand, takes great leaps of logic... No, it doesn't. Say that there's some hardware defect in him causing him to, eventually, lose control and get screechy when he's scared (hence the name Mynock--because he screeched like one). If this trait developed again, Wedge might've just changed his name back. -----signature----- Bearers of cute avatars unite!
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