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rogue_wookiee Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 6/19/04 10:44am Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level
	I think it is set later. Dooku was a Sith and that would have taken a few months for him to join Sideous. -----signature----- “You’re probably the biggest taxer in the country, even bigger than the Congress,” - Ron Paul on the Federal Reserve. Be aware of inflation and how it affects our daily life. http://mises.org/story/2914 -What You Should Know About Inflation
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Mavrick889 Registered: Feb '99	Date Posted: 6/19/04 10:49am Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level
	Boba is about to turn 10 in the AotC novelization, which is set 10.2 years after TPM, meaing that Boba would have to be been born at the latest 3 months after TPM. The Kamino deal gets sealed at the end of Bounty Hunter, thus it has to take place within those 3 months. -----signature----- http://blogs.starwars.com/clibretto2/ A Member of the Star Wars Fanboy Association. http://www.myuselessknowledge.com/swfa
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rogue_wookiee Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 6/19/04 10:54am Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level
	1.5 months after BoG Boba is 11. According to Maze of Deception. I'm not sure if AotC is set 10 or 11 years after tPM. In any case BH takes place about 6 months to a year after tPM. According to Jango Fett: Open Seasons and logic because Dooku became a Sith after Maul's death. -----signature----- “You’re probably the biggest taxer in the country, even bigger than the Congress,” - Ron Paul on the Federal Reserve. Be aware of inflation and how it affects our daily life. http://mises.org/story/2914 -What You Should Know About Inflation
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Mavrick889 Registered: Feb '99	Date Posted: 6/19/04 11:01am Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level - Date Edited: 6/19/04 11:02am (2 edits total) Edited By: Mavrick889
	According to Holonet News, 10.2 years transpire between the Battle of Naboo and the Battle of Geonosis. Also, I think it's safe to assume that Dooku became a Sith Lord pretty quickly after TPM. He'd already had dabblings in Sith teachings according to Legacy of the Jedi, during his tenure in the Jedi Order, and (if we look at Anakin's, Quinlan's, Ulic's and a number of other Jedi's falls from grace) Sidious's corruption of Dooku probably didn't take all that long. As for Boba being 11 in Boba Fett # 3, I think that's a mistake. I believe that was brought up when the book came out, not to mention that Boba is 12 in book 5 and that's set more than 2 years after book 3. Also, where in Open Seasons does it say how long it's been since TPM? I don't remember it giving any solid figures. -----signature----- http://blogs.starwars.com/clibretto2/ A Member of the Star Wars Fanboy Association. http://www.myuselessknowledge.com/swfa
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rogue_wookiee Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 6/19/04 11:05am Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level
	I kind of figured it was. I am reading it now. But Jango Fett: Open Seasons has Jango in slavery until just after tPM. I believe 2 years before tPM he was enslaved and then he escaped after 2 years. And then he hunted down those responsible and then became a bounty hunter. Not much time to become the #1 bh. I didn't write it I just collected it all. -----signature----- “You’re probably the biggest taxer in the country, even bigger than the Congress,” - Ron Paul on the Federal Reserve. Be aware of inflation and how it affects our daily life. http://mises.org/story/2914 -What You Should Know About Inflation
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rogue_wookiee Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 6/19/04 11:10am Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level
	I just checked some stuff and it is listed as late 32 BBY. ------------------- 3,956 years BBY Knights of the Old Republic ------------------- ------------------- 3,032 years BBY Galactic Battlegrounds: Boss Nass 1-3 ------------------- ------------------- 32 Years BBY: ------------------- Galactic Battlegrounds: Attichitcuk 1-7 Obi-Wan 1-6 Starfighter 1-9 Episode I - The Phantom Menace ------------------- TPM Day 1: ------------------- Jedi Power Batttles 1 - 4 Galactic Battlegrounds: OOM-9 1-3 The Battle For Naboo 1-3 Starfighter 10 ------------------- TPM Day 2: ------------------- Battle For Naboo 4-7 ------------------- TPM Day 3: ------------------- Starfighter 11 Battle For Naboo 8-9 Starfighter 12 Episode I Racer ------------------- TPM Day 4: ------------------- Battle For Naboo 10-11 Jedi Power Batttles 5 ------------------- TPM Day 5: ------------------- Battle For Naboo 12 Starfighter 13 ------------------- TPM Day 7: ------------------- Galactic Battlegrounds: OOM-9 5-6 Jedi Power Batttles 6 ------------------- TPM Day 8: ------------------- Jedi Power Batttles 7 Galactic Battlegrounds: Boss Nass 4 ------------------- TPM Day 9: ------------------- Galactic Battlegrounds: Boss Nass 5-6 ------------------- TPM Day 10: ------------------- Battle For Naboo 14-15 Starfighter 14 Jedi Power Batttles 8-10 ------------------- TPM Day 11: ------------------- Battle For Naboo 16 The Gungan Frontier ------------------- 32 Years BBY: ------------------- Bounty Hunter ------------------- 24 Years BBY: ------------------- Racer Revenge ------------------- 22 Years BBY: ------------------- Jedi Starfighter Galactic Battlegrounds: Clone Campaigns The Clone Wars ------------------- 21 Years BBY: ------------------- The New Droid Army ------------------- 2 Years BBY: ------------------- X-Wing: Historical Combat: Y-Wing #6 X-Wing: Intro X-Wing: Historical Combat: X-Wing #6 X-Wing: Tour of Duty 1: A New Ally Galactic Battlegrounds: Leia 1-3 ------------------- 1 Year BBY: ------------------- X-Wing: Tour of Duty 2: The Great Search ------------------- 0 Years BBY: ------------------- Dark Forces: Death Star Plans- Operation Skyhook: Phase 2 Rogue Leader: Tatooine Training Rebel Strike: Tatooine Training Force Commander: Desert Training 1-3 (Rebel Assault) Rebel Strike: Death Star Rescue Rogue Leader: Death Star Escape Rogue Leader: Death Star Attack Rogue Squadron: Death Star Trench Run Rogue Leader: Triumph of the Empire (AU) Force Commander: Assault on Ruul 1-2 Force Commander: Crisis on Sarapin 1-2 ------------------- 6 months ABY: ------------------- Force Commander: The Trap at Yavin Rebel Strike: Revenge of the Empire Rogue Leader: Revenge on Yavin (AU) Galactic Battlegrounds: Darth Vader 1 X-Wing: Tour of Duty 3: Imperial Pursuit 1-2 Rogue Leader: Ison Corridor Ambush Rebel Strike: Defiance on Dantooine Rebel Strike: Defenders of Ralltiir Rebel Strike: Extraction From Ralltiir Rogue Squadron: Beggar's Canyon Rogue Squadron: Ambush at Mos Eisley Rogue Squadron: Rendezvous on Barkesh Rogue Squadron: Search for the Nonnah ------------------- 7 months ABY: ------------------- X-Wing: Tour of Duty 3: Imperial Pursuit 3-14 ------------------- 9 months ABY: ------------------- Galactic Battlegrounds: Darth Vader 2-3 ------------------- 11 months ABY: ------------------- Dark Forces: After the Massacre Dark Forces: The Subterranean Hideout Dark Forces: Imperial Weapons Research Facility Dark Forces: The Blood Moon Dark Forces: Crix Madine's Fate Rogue Squadron: Defection on Corellia Rogue Squadron: Liberation of Gerrard V Dark Forces: Deadly Cargo Dark Forces: Ice Station Beta Dark Forces: The Death Mark Dark Forces: Jabba's Revenge Dark Forces: The Imperial Mask Dark Forces: Smuggler's Hijack Dark Forces: The Stowaway Dark Forces: The Dark Awakening ------------------- 1 Year ABY: ------------------- Rogue Squadron: The Jade Moon Rogue Squadron: Imperial Construction Yards Rogue Squadron: Assault on Kile II Rogue Squadron: Rescue on Kessel Rogue Squadron: Prisons of Kessel Rogue Squadron: Battle Above Taloraan Rogue Squadron: Escape From Fest Rogue Squadron: Blockade on Chandrila Rogue Squadron: Raid on Sullust Rogue Squadron: Moff Seerdon's Revenge ------------------- 2 Years ABY: ------------------- X-Wing: Tour of Duty 5: B-Wing ------------------- 3 Years ABY: ------------------- Galactic Battlegrounds: Darth Vader 4 Galactic Battlegrounds: Leia Bonus Hoth Force Commander: Battle of Hoth Rogue Leader: Battle of Hoth Rebel Strike: Battlefield Hoth Shadows of the Empire: Battle of Hoth Rogue Squadron: Battle of Hoth Rebel Strike: Escape From Hoth Shadows of the Empire: Escape From Echo Base Rogue Leader: Asteroid Field Shadows of the Empire: The Asteroid Field Rebel Strike: Trials of a Jedi Rebel Strike: Flight From Bespin ------------------- 1 Month After Hoth: ------------------- X-Wing Alliance: Prologue X-Wing Alliance: Family Business 1-7 X-Wing Alliance: Joining The Rebellion 1-2 X-Wing Alliance: Clearing The Way 1-3 TIE Fighter: Tour Of Duty 1 - The Aftermath Of Hoth 1-2 X-Wing Alliance: Clearing The Way 4-7 TIE Fighter: Tour Of Duty 1 - The Aftermath Of Hoth 3-6 TIE Fighter: Tour Of Duty 2 - The Sepan Civil War 1-5 TIE Fighter: Tour Of Duty 3 - Battle On The Frontier 1-5 ------------------- 2 Months After Hoth: ------------------- Rogue Leader: Prisoners of the Maw Rebel Strike: Raid at Bakura Rebel Strike: Relics of Geonosis TIE Fighter: Tour Of Duty 4 - Conflict At Mylok IV 1-5 TIE Fighter: Tour Of Duty 5 - Battle On Honour 1-5 ------------------- 3 Months After Hoth: ------------------- X-Wing Alliance: Secret Weapons Of The Empire 1-6 TIE Fighter: Tour Of Duty 6 - Arms Race 1-4 X-Wing Vs. TIE Fighter ------------------- 4 Months After Hoth: ------------------- TIE Fighter: Tour Of Duty 7 - Treachery At Ottega 1-5 X-Wing Vs. TIE Fighter: Balance Of Power - Spreading The Rebellion ------------------- 5 Months After Hoth: ------------------- X-Wing Alliance: Over The Fence 1-7 TIE Fighter: Tour Of Duty 8 - Strategic Warfare 1-6 X-Wing Vs. TIE Fighter: Balance Of Power - Task Force Vengeance ------------------- 6 Months After Hoth: ------------------- TIE Fighter: Tour Of Duty 9 - TIE Defender Technology 1-6 TIE Fighter: Tour Of Duty 10 - New Threats 1-6 TIE Fighter: Tour Of Duty 11 - The Hunt For Zaarin 1-7 ------------------- 7 Months After Hoth: ------------------- Rebel Assault II: The Hidden Empire Shadows of the Empire: Ord Mantell Junkyard X-Wing Alliance: The Bothan Connection 1 Shadows of the Empire: Gall Spaceport X-Wing Alliance: The Bothan Connection 2-4 Shadows of the Empire: Mos Eisley and Beggar's Canyon Shadows of the Empire: Imperial Freighter Suprosa TIE Fighter: Tour Of Duty 12 - Prelude To Endor 1-4 X-Wing Alliance: The Bothan Connection 5-6 Shadows of the Empire: Sewers of Imperial City Shadows of the Empire: Xizor's Palace Shadows of the Empire: Skyhook Battle Rogue Leader: Razor Rendezvous Rogue Leader: Vengeance at Kothlis ------------------- 8 Months After Hoth: ------------------- X-Wing Alliance: Mustering The Fleet 1-7 Force Commander: Surprise at Endor Force Commander: Massacre at Abridon 1-3 Force Commander: Escape from Kalaan Force Commander: Return to Ruul 1-2 Force Commander: The Walker Gambit 1 X-Wing Alliance: The Darkest Hour 1-3 TIE Fighter: Tour Of Duty 12 - Prelude To Endor 5 X-Wing Alliance: The Darkest Hour 4 Rogue Leader: Imperial Academy Heist X-Wing Alliance: The Darkest Hour 5 TIE Fighter: Tour Of Duty 12 - Prelude To Endor 6 X-Wing Alliance: The Darkest Hour 6 Rebel Strike: Deception at Destrillion Rebel Strike: Guns of Dubrillion Rebel Strike: Fondor Shipyard Assault Force Commander: The Walker Gambit 1-3 Rogue Leader: Raid on Bespin Masters Of Teras Kasi Demolition ------------------- 4 Years ABY: ------------------- Rebel Strike: The Sarlacc Pit Galactic Battlegrounds: Leia bonus Endor Rebel Strike: Speeder Bike Pursuit Rogue Leader: Battle of Endor Force Commander: The Alliance Strikes Back Rebel Strike: Triumph of the Rebellion Rebel Strike: Attack on Executor Rogue Leader: Strike at the Core ------------------- 6 Years ABY: ------------------- Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight Galactic Battlegrounds: Leia 4-5 ------------------- 7.5 Years ABY: ------------------- Force Commander: The Siege of Coruscant ------------------- 10 Years ABY: ------------------- Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith Rogue Squadron: Battle of Calamari ------------------- 14 Years ABY: ------------------- Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy ------------------- ??????????????????? ------------------- Galactic Battlegrounds: Leia bonus 3 -----signature----- “You’re probably the biggest taxer in the country, even bigger than the Congress,” - Ron Paul on the Federal Reserve. 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Valiento Registered: Mar '00	Date Posted: 6/20/04 9:00pm Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level - Date Edited: 6/20/04 9:49pm (8 edits total) Edited By: Valiento
	"Rebel Strike: Tatooine Training" Anyone notice that at first glance it seems like Tatooine training should go before ANH, or even the radio drama prologue material? Yet, there are certain issues that make it impossible to be there or during the radio drama prologue material... C-3PO is already with Luke at the homestead. R2-D2 has been captured by Jawas again, and Luke has to free him from the sandcrawler that he's in. In the radio drama, Luke never won a race against Fixer before, and the first time he did, he damaged the ship to the point that it would have to have parts replaced to repair it, and he knew it would upset his uncle. In the game Fixer makes refrences to that race, mentions that luke finally had time to fix the T-16 (something he didn't have time to do in the radio drama), and is upset that he lost the previous race and wants a rematch. Among other things... If we go into Rogue Leader's tatooine training it actually backs up Hoth Stuff's wedge history, about Wedge spending at least some time on Tattooine before ANH... Some would argue that's not such a good thing... Then there was Tatooine training in Rogue Squadron 3-D that had Wedge, Dac, and Zev, but that had to be after ANH.
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Valiento Registered: Mar '00	Date Posted: 6/21/04 5:09pm Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level - Date Edited: 6/21/04 5:38pm (8 edits total) Edited By: Valiento
	Well another thing I've noticed is that Revenge of the Empire level in rebel strike has to occur around the same time as the escape in Star Wars Kids. Which had to have occured about 1 month after the battle of Yavin, due to the fact that Q-7N (who was discovered the day after the death star in missions book 1) was involved with catching Rogor's transmissions, but left the company of Luke Skywalker during books 17-20, which start about 4-5 weeks after the battle of Yavin (about 2-3 weeks after book 1). Not only that but Luke helps Dodonna escape into a transport before it lifts off, which more or less fits in with Star Wars kids escape (heavy equipment escape as the Essential Chronology puts it). Another thing is that defecting Tycho plotline from rebel strike has to occur concurrently or in between books 17-18 of missions, as Tycho is already with Rogue Squadron in Book 18 as first seen in chapter 3 (correct me if Tycho shows up earlier in books 1-4 or not), he has several important scenes.
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Mavrick889 Registered: Feb '99	Date Posted: 6/21/04 5:17pm Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level
	Interesting Val. I hadn't thought to place those missions where you say, but I think that'd work. -----signature----- http://blogs.starwars.com/clibretto2/ A Member of the Star Wars Fanboy Association. http://www.myuselessknowledge.com/swfa
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Rogue_Follower Title: Manager: • Lit Registered: Nov '03	Date Posted: 7/14/04 4:05pm Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level
	Up... Also, while replaying X-Wing, I found something puzzeling: in one of the levels (twelve, I believe)of the first Tour of Duty, Crix Madine's name is mentioned in the context that "General Madine" was planning an operation to destroy the SD Invincible. But at this time, Madine was an Imperial officer. Now, is there a canon answer to this problem, as the Tour is before the Battle of Yavin, and Madine's defection to the Alliance was after? The only reasonable explanation I can see is that he was even then working on the Rebel's side. Any ideas?
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TIEPilot051999 Registered: Mar '02	Date Posted: 7/14/04 4:46pm Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level
	Also, while replaying X-Wing, I found something puzzeling: in one of the levels (twelve, I believe)of the first Tour of Duty, Crix Madine's name is mentioned in the context that "General Madine" was planning an operation to destroy the SD Invincible. But at this time, Madine was an Imperial officer. Now, is there a canon answer to this problem, as the Tour is before the Battle of Yavin, and Madine's defection to the Alliance was after? The only reasonable explanation I can see is that he was even then working on the Rebel's side. Hmm. Wasn't Madine an undercover agent at the time? -----signature----- Devi is my Padme Angel All Hail Megatron! The Tenth Doctor In Sleepy Tower - Third Place Winner
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Valiento Registered: Mar '00	Date Posted: 7/14/04 4:47pm Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level
	I'd say, mole?
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Rogue_Follower Title: Manager: • Lit Registered: Nov '03	Date Posted: 7/14/04 4:58pm Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level
	Thats all I can think of, Val, unless there is another General Madine somewhere... In the Essential Chronology, it says that Madine defected because he was "forced to release an incurable plague on a planet." However, a date for this mission is not given. In the EGtC, it states that Madine's final mission was left unfinished. I would assume that the plague was this final mission. So, do we know exactly when Madine defected? It depends on whether Madine was trying to defect at once, or was waiting for the right time. I doubt the Empire would miss someone like Madine being gone for very long.
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TIEPilot051999 Registered: Mar '02	Date Posted: 7/14/04 5:10pm Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level
	So, do we know exactly when Madine defected? It depends on whether Madine was trying to defect at once, or was waiting for the right time. Well, according to the EC, it happened after ANH, but before Dark Forces. -----signature----- Devi is my Padme Angel All Hail Megatron! The Tenth Doctor In Sleepy Tower - Third Place Winner
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Valiento Registered: Mar '00	Date Posted: 7/14/04 5:17pm Subject: RE: Shall We Play a Game? - Arranging Video Game Storylines By Level - Date Edited: 7/14/04 5:18pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Valiento
	I'd say to check the x-wing strat guide for further explanation since it was novelized, but it probably wouldn't help much since farlander papers also assumed that he defected before ANH, based on refrences it made to Rebel Era Sourcebook and other WEG material. The assumed explanation however is that document in farlander papers was a revised and expanded version of the Rebel propaganda booklet, attached to document some time after ANH. The other interpretation is that he had defected before ANH, but continued to play the mole from within the Imperial ranks until he was given a mission he knew he couldn't do because it went beyond anything he'd do as a mole, at which point he fully defected, but was arrested before he got the chance to escape (Kyle had to free him). But if I get time later, I'll check the novel to see if will be forced to interpret things yet another way, ...
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