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Matthew Trias Registered: Sep '99	Date Posted: 4/5/04 1:03am Subject: RE: Starfighter / Fleet Command and Army Ranking ladder - Date Edited: 4/5/04 1:04am (1 edits total) Edited By: Matthew Trias
	According to last Man Standing the Army has a Commander and that outranks a Captain. Then again, maybe Commander is another term for Major? -----signature----- Bushator vs Kerryien Whoever wins, we lose. Buy Exo Squad on DVD! You Won't Be Disappointed
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Pelranius Registered: Apr '03	Date Posted: 4/5/04 2:46am Subject: RE: Starfighter / Fleet Command and Army Ranking ladder
	There's also senior colonel and senior captain (Navy) for what it's worth. -----signature----- Fleet Junkie and Proud! Fics: Destiny's Inferno (TTT/DE AU) And the Skywalker Saga KOTOR Style Updated 7/24/06 see bio for details
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JudroBathens Registered: Apr '02	Date Posted: 4/5/04 1:12pm Subject: RE: Starfighter / Fleet Command and Army Ranking ladder
	Matthew Trias posted: According to last Man Standing the Army has a Commander and that outranks a Captain. Then again, maybe Commander is another term for Major? I've been thinking about this for a while, considering that the yellow/gold-marked clone trooper officers are referred to as 'Commanders'. Considering that the rank of Commander in naval rank systems, and the RAF rank of Wing Commander, are equivalent to the army rank of Lieutenant Colonel... maybe 'commander' is used either informally, or perhaps even officially, in the GFFA military tradition, as an alternate term for that rank. It could help explain the yellow clones as well as references like the above. It's not my personal favorite theory (I prefer Saxton's notion of using British-style ranks), but it's a possible explanation. -----signature----- Lord Protector of Aquilae High Marshal of the Aquilaean Starforce Commander, Crescent Sword Task Force/11th Sector Army, GAR "Chancellor Palpatine... Sith Lords are our specialty."
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Pellaeon-Firke Registered: Mar '04	Date Posted: 4/5/04 2:34pm Subject: RE: Starfighter / Fleet Command and Army Ranking ladder
	Reaper, since you haven't read NJO, you haven't seen what it is the Wraiths do, but they go on a commando mission to study biology, blow stuff up, and set up a resistance. Also, Rogue Squadron does the Coruscant and Thyferra missions, among others, which are more intelligence than what the Wraiths were doing. If any of you have read the Rogue Warrior series, there's a line about how SEALs can set up a resistance completely by themselves, by training people, which is what the Wraiths do. However, maybe they should just create a new branch for the Wraiths and Madine successors, doing what he did in Darksaber. -----signature----- "I am Revan, greater than all of you clowns. Savior, conqueror, hero, villain. I am all things, and yet I am nothing. In the end I belong to neither the light nor the darkness. And I will forever stand alone." --Genghis12 Gone from 6/20 to 8/8 SFD Judge.
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Pelranius Registered: Apr '03	Date Posted: 4/6/04 6:17am Subject: RE: Starfighter / Fleet Command and Army Ranking ladder
	Perhaps some Old Republic ranks were shifted around, renamed or abolished after the Empire came into being? -----signature----- Fleet Junkie and Proud! Fics: Destiny's Inferno (TTT/DE AU) And the Skywalker Saga KOTOR Style Updated 7/24/06 see bio for details
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Reaper63 Registered: Nov '02	Date Posted: 4/6/04 6:22am Subject: RE: Starfighter / Fleet Command and Army Ranking ladder
	Actually, my answer was based on what Wedge stated the Wraiths were there to do in The Wraith books. And how they employed their duties. What the Rogues did in The X-Wing seris is more in line with what SF teams do in real life. And my knowledge of Real world SF teams comes from actual experience, not from reading the books. I have done some cross training with the Green berets, and I know all about their training of indiginous rebel groups to support US objectives. But to go and assume the role of the enemy, something the Wraiths did in all 4 of their novels, and even from what you explained they did in the NJO still falls under the inteligence area of operations. -----signature----- Ed I'm not the mechanic here, Ironsides! I mostly just hurt people! IC-6369
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dragonmbf Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 4/14/04 4:20pm Subject: RE: Starfighter / Fleet Command and Army Ranking ladder
	The New Republic Starfighter Command ranking structure is: Flight Cadet Flight Officer Lieutenant Captain Commander Major Colonel General I know this is not usual, but as you can tell in the book Solo Command, that Commander is higher than Captain. Otherwise, how could Wedge promote Face to Captain?
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Knight_Wanderer Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 4/15/04 2:53am Subject: RE: Starfighter / Fleet Command and Army Ranking ladder
	The way I've come to understand Starfighter Command ranks structure is as follows: Cadet Flight Officer Lieutenant Captain Major (Commander) Colonel General The reason I have Commander in parentheses is that, from what I can reason out, it's a rarely used rank. Of course, this is all eventually traceable back to the fact that George Lucas loves to put the word "Commander" in his movies whenever possible, hence, Luke had to be "Commander Skywalker." Then, when Wedge took Luke's rank and command, he had to be a Commander as well. But that's the real life reason, not the internal-consistency reasoning. Anyway, throughout the majority of the EU, the rank is little used. Authors have tended to follow USAF rank structure fairly closely. No one, to my recollection, is referred to as Commander anywhere in the X-Wing books with the exception of Wedge, and no one in the Zahn corpus except Wedge and Corran. Now, since we know Corran was a colonel in the NJO, Commander must be subordinate in Starfighter Command to colonel, hence it's placement in my chart. As for why the rank "commander" is used as it is in the books, my interpretation is based in _Solo Command_, in which Wedge commands an entire flight group, and _I, Jedi_, because in it Tycho is already a Colonel. So far as I can tell, under normal circumstances the promotion ladder would go straight from Major to Colonel. However, in certain situations a Major is not of sufficient rank to obtain/hold the kinds of commands the situation warrants, whereas Colonel is either too great a rank for the command, or the putative commander (i.e. Wedge) refuses promotion that high. The rank "Commander" is, then, a compromise. Likewise, as of the HOT Corran is promoted to "Commander" because he can't be promoted any higher as long as Wedge commands at General and Tycho is XO at Colonel; however, due to his service record, it wouldn't be right for him to stay at Major. Hence, the rarely used "Commander" rank is offered. KW -----signature----- A Knight. . . a Princess. . . a Wanderer. . . a Pirate. . . STAR WARS -Returns- Episode I: A Call to Arms http://boards.theforce.net/the_saga/b10476/23973014/
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