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I know, Keralys, and I've mentioned that on occasion: that he could only write what he knew and was given at that time. I've never held the author responsible for the totally nondescriptive whaffle of the Sidious fight. Surely a little point form list of who does what and where couldn't have been given to him?
Mastadge, which book are you talking about when you said "I haven't read it, but here are the reasons why it sucks."
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Excellence posted:
Mastadge, which book are you talking about when you said "I haven't read it, but here are the reasons why it sucks."
I was just repeating you.
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I'm so slow I shan't even write why I loved it.
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9.5 out of 10.
It's written in a way that I haven't realy seen often before, and done extremely well (especially the first two thirds). However the ending is a bit rushed, probably because Matt wasn't allowed to write a Lord of the Rings size epic. I could easily read the novelization up to the end of the Mace/Sidious fight and then watch the rest of the movie from there and be more satisfied than watching or reading each seperately.
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Ah! I finally worked out what you meant, my good Mas. I see what you mean. No, I haven't read it, true, but what I did peruse in-store left me with a cheated impression. That is what I was saying. 
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As near perfection as man can come. A thing of pure beauty.
And Ex, perhaps you shouldn't hold a movie adaptation to standards that, as a movie adaptation, it cannot reach. Deal with it on its own terms, and you may be quite pleased. It actually seems to me like *your* kind of book. Very deep. Inside the characters' heads. Writes down to no one. And actually, since Stover didn't know, I'd say he did the best thing possible with that scene -- instead of making something up that wouldn't match up with the movie, he boiled it down to its essence and wrote a description of the mental battle, of the stakes for the galaxy, that captured all the importance without geting bogged down in details that would eventually be proved inaccurate.
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I do, Havac. That's why I won't buy another movie or book related comic. I found AOTC and Last Command's art rushed and lacking depth of scenes. Or why I haven't bought other game or movie books. Except for Babby 5: Call to Arms. I couldn't watch all of it on TV, and wanted to know how it ended. Kinda of silly, seeing how I bought over 2yrs ago and still haven't read it, but it was cheap.
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I still say it's worth your time to check it out from the library. Don't go in with any preconceived notions and just read it. You'd be surprised, I think.
BTW, there's an article on your precious Martin in this week's TIME magazine. It convined me that sometime, eventually, I need to pick up those books. 
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Precious Erikson, you mean. Although I liked Martin's prose too. 
Never read a Times-class magazine but I've decided to not to read A Feast for Crows. The trade paperback is just too big on the shelf. But how long can I last until someone inadvertantly spoils me?? I'd have to leave net forums until however long the paperback comes. Literature would lose me. 
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Excellence posted:
I know, Keralys, and I've mentioned that on occasion: that he could only write what he knew and was given at that time. I've never held the author responsible for the totally nondescriptive whaffle of the Sidious fight. Surely a little point form list of who does what and where couldn't have been given to him?
I've seen you make this criticism before, and I still don't understand it. What description is required? Step One: Palps throws Senate pod, Yoda ducks. Step Two: ??? Step Three: Profit!
No, I liked it the way Stover presented it: during the middle of the action, we learn that Yoda is in the process of learning a very disturbing lesson. The movie shows us he gets physically "pwnd" in the fight; the novelization tells us why he's losing and gives us the first hint of realization of how his guys will have to fight back.
By the way, the very idea of putting this in the same sentence as the insubstantial TPM novelization and the horrid AOTC novelization is, for lack of a better description, like pitting Mara Jade against a Devaronian in a beauty contest . . .
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BTW, I'll toss in a 9.4/10.
I haven't scored many of these novels here, but I'd say this would be near the highest I'd go with a SW novel.
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Firstly, he overpowerd Sidious in the movie, but that's my pov. I can't argue your own impression. Secondly, let me put it bluntly, you're not paying hard hardcover money to read two half-pages of vague nondescription. You got absolutely nothing in the book, and I call that shameless insult. Just a series of one-line sentences that doesn't tell you much. It was the author's way to fill in what he didn't have, but ulitmately it cheated substance to the reader.
And the endings scenes were abbreviated to the extreme, lacking any substance, again, like AOTC's. It was vital to the anguish Kenobi was feeling as he left his crisped darth, but like most SW books these years, the ending was rushed and you got none of that. One poetic pov from Vader doesn't spine the skeleton.
But hey, each to their own, right?
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Firstly, he overpowerd Sidious in the movie, but that's my pov.
Sure, to each his own. 
But my impression was that, however formidable Yoda was, the only times he got the upper hand were when Sidious was drunk on what you might call the "unholy laughter." Most of the Senate pod sequence, for instance, Yoda is on the defensive.
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That's a natural reaction, though: to seek new ground when boulders are hurled at you. But he held his own in sabering, and when it came tiem for the bubble test of wills, he outpowered Siddy. Only thing is, he fell whereas Siddy held on.
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I give the novel 7.7/10 I felt the parts that should have been more detailed weren't. Definetly should have described Anakin/Vaders surgery more not just the constructions finished I felt that was the ultimate cheat. And you expect to read what you don't see on the screen in a novel so I was expecting to read of Anakin making his way through the Jedi Temple and there was absolutly none of that except for a clever one liner where he kills the Temple guard and Stover didn't even write the part with the Younglings, so he completly wrote out part of George's vision which in my opinion if its not your story is kind of rude. I enjoyed "Labyrinth of Evil" much more as far as a good read goes the movie "Revenge of the Sith" has become my favorite movie of all time, and I am very much looking foward to the next Luceno novel "Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader" which will conclude all three books "Labyrinth", "Revenge", and "Dark Lord". So personally I was highly dissapointed with the novel of Episode III
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