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Star Wars Expanded Universe Timeline
ATimson
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Date Posted:
7/31/07 8:50am
Subject:
RE: Star Wars Expanded Universe Timeline
I would say definitely by the time you're done with
Dark Tide II: Ruin
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The_Four_Dot_Elipsis
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Mar '05
Date Posted:
10/2/07 2:52am
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RE: Star Wars Expanded Universe Timeline
Just a question....why is Missions 5-8 in 2 ABY? Is it because of the lack of Q-7N? I know that 13-16 clearly take place after 17-20, but I'm just curious about the first Wolverton arc.
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Date Posted:
10/2/07 8:56am
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RE: Star Wars Expanded Universe Timeline
I think you have the date for UNION wrong. It can't be one year after Hand of Thrawn, because SURVIVOR's QUEST is 3 years after they got married and they got married fairly soon after Vision of the Future.
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Jan '01
Date Posted:
10/3/07 7:18pm
Subject:
RE: Star Wars Expanded Universe Timeline
I think 5-8 were placed so far forward because Momaw Nadon returns to Ithor in them, and wasn't there in Galaxy of Fear #9. The stories also, I think, have a reference to Dodonna or Yavin as the current Rebel leader/base, so they can't actually take place after the GOF story.
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Senator_Cilghal
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Jul '03
Date Posted:
10/3/07 11:39pm
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RE: Star Wars Expanded Universe Timeline
Timeline continuity issues with Missions I am so far aware of:
1) Tycho in Rogue Squadron seemingly before he defects
2) Interdiction tech being invented that already exists
3) Ithor being liberated
4) EV-9D9 fleeing Lando Calrissian's barony on Bespin before Lando owns the place
It has been common to set all these events with the 6 months ABY because of references to the Rebel Base on Yavin 4/General Dodonna. However, I think realistically this creates too many timeline discrepancies. I think we have to throw out one thing or another. The first arc is obviously set (in large part) on Yavin 4 and the plot requires this. However, many of the plots only make off-hand ALLUSIONS to Dodonna and Yavin 4, but these are not essential for the plot to work, ie, Dodonna isnt actually a character involved in the story, Yavin 4 is not a direct setting, By simply ignoring these "one-liners" in terms of timeline placement, I think things make more sense. Yavin 4 and Dodonna are NOT essential to the "Battle Droids" arc element, whereas 12-$c-41's vendetta against Ev-9D9 definitely is, so we should sacrifice the former to preserve the latter, so the story MUST be set no earlier than 1 ABY. Likewise, the liberation of Ithor can be set aftert GOF (during which I am pretty sure the Empire still controls Ithor and Nadon hasn't returned). Perhaps the Kwenn station story can even be set AFTER Tycho defects, so he can be in Rogue Squadron.
As for the interdiction discrepancy...I got nothing. It existed since at least 19 BBY, how can they create in after Yavin? Oh well....
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The_Four_Dot_Elipsis
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Date Posted:
10/4/07 3:36am
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RE: Star Wars Expanded Universe Timeline
The other big issue, of course, is the co-existence of
Imperial Spy
and the last Missions arc.
It's quite painful.
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Havac
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Date Posted:
10/4/07 10:38am
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RE: Star Wars Expanded Universe Timeline
Senator_Cilghal
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1) Tycho in Rogue Squadron seemingly before he defects
When, precisely, are the books set? Also, when does Rebel Strike place Tycho's defection, chronologically? Because the Rogue Squadron books have him jumping ship pretty much right after Alderaan.
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Date Posted:
10/4/07 4:18pm
Subject:
RE: Star Wars Expanded Universe Timeline
>1) Tycho in Rogue Squadron seemingly before he defects<
This is actually one of those cases where several continuity errors come together and end up fixing the problem. The Rogue Squadron books and comics imply that Tycho left soon after Alderaan, and Wedge's Gamble established Tycho's defection as soon after the Yavin evacuation. Ok, so that's about six months after Yavin. Well, then along came the Missions books, with Tycho as part of Rogue Squadron *before* Yavin was evacuated. Whoops. And then Rebel Strike ran with the original order of events from Wedge's Gamble, with Luke rescuing a defected TIE fighter pilot, Tycho, on Dantooine immediately following an evacuation of Yavin.
Ouch. But wait a minute, Rebel Strike made another error in having General Dodonna escape the Yavin evacuation unscathed and continue to give missions afterward. How does one reconcile it all? By going back to the SW Kids magazines that came with the Missions books, and the comic within, Imperial Spy. That comic showed Yavin being evacuated with a different plotline than the Classic Star Wars one adheared to by the Missions books and, most confusing of all, including Q-7N, the droid from Missions, who was destroyed in the books before Yavin had been evacuated.
So here's how we fix all this: we allow for two seperate evacuations of Yavin and assume that the Rebels returned to Yavin after the Imperial ground forces left. We assume that Rebel Strike and Imperial Spy show the same evacuation. Tycho's defection in the game is then in line with events established in Wedge's Gamble, and is able to participate in the Missions books. This also explains Dodonna's survival in the game and allows him to join the Rebel fleet for a few old RPG games before returning to Yavin.
Now true, this leaves us with two evacuations, which doesn't make much sense without an official explanation. But it creates fewer timeline headaches.
>2) Interdiction tech being invented that already exists<
The Missions books present this technology as being Tarkin's pet project before he died. It wouldn't be a huge leap to retcon this into being more along the lines of the much more incredibly powerful interdiction device found aboard the Death Star wreckage by Ugor scavangers in the old RPG, rather than the millennia old, run-of-the-mill interdiction fields already in use.
>3) Ithor being liberated<
There is a picture book, "Han Solo's Rescue Mission" or some such, that has Han evacuating leaders from Ithor. It wouldn't be much of a stretch to assume that the Empire retook Ithor at some point between Missions and Galaxy of Fear. If Momaw Nadon left with Han, that would also explain his absense in Galaxy of Fear and his statement that he returned after the Emperor's death in the Jedi Academy Trilogy.
>4) EV-9D9 fleeing Lando Calrissian's barony on Bespin before Lando owns the place<
I still think time travel would be appropiate to fix this one.
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Senator_Cilghal
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Jul '03
Date Posted:
10/5/07 3:05pm
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RE: Star Wars Expanded Universe Timeline
so again, we need the retcon that 12-4C-41 and EV-9D9 are actually Iron Knights, EV-9D9 is a Darksider, and 12-4C-41 is out to track her down through time and space;)
You know, it might just be easier to move back Lando's takeover of Cloud City. I realize various sources, WEG etc., have placed it at 1 ABY, but is this placement really necessary for any story reason?
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_Catherine_
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Jun '07
Date Posted:
10/6/07 9:21am
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RE: Star Wars Expanded Universe Timeline
As I recall, as of
Galaxy of Fear
#4:
The Nightmare Machine
, he wasn't yet baron administrator, but I'm not sure of that book's exact placement after Yavin.
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Date Posted:
10/7/07 1:28am
Subject:
RE: Star Wars Expanded Universe Timeline
Yeah, that's set around six months or so after Yavin.
>so again, we need the retcon that 12-4C-41 and EV-9D9 are actually Iron Knights, EV-9D9 is a Darksider, and 12-4C-41 is out to track her down through time and space;)<
The retcon only requires Fourwun to travel through time; EV-9D9 need only move her base of operations from Tatooine to Cloud City and back again in response to Fourwun's assassination attempts.
I'd actually advocate a technological time-travel method, such as the one the Droids accidentally stumbled upon in Droids #4. I just use Flow Walking as an example because it's more mainstream, and because it makes any other solution seem more plausible. Fourwun need only travel back in time once.
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russelguppy
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Date Posted:
10/21/07 4:11am
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RE: Star Wars Expanded Universe Timeline
Just bumping up this useful resource thread - it says on page 1 the last update was done in 2006 - is this right?
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The_Beyonder
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Aug '06
Date Posted:
10/21/07 8:37am
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RE: Star Wars Expanded Universe Timeline
Any ideas of when Death Star takes place, because it does not take place 17 years BBY.
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The2ndQuest
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Date Posted:
10/21/07 2:42pm
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RE: Star Wars Expanded Universe Timeline
The last major update was posted last year but there have been minor additions and corrections since then.
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Senator_Cilghal
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Date Posted:
10/21/07 3:17pm
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RE: Star Wars Expanded Universe Timeline
It starts at LEAST 7 months BBY
IIRC, there are 6 months between Chapter 1 and the main characters actually arriving on the DS, and AT LEAST one month mentioned as passing before the ANH events
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