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ThrawnRocks Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 6/20 12:28pm Subject: Journey Through the EU: Disc. Jedi Quest #1 - The Way of the Apprentice - Jude Watson
	Curi sounds more like a nod to Mary Curie to me than Watson being unable to think of names that are different from Siri. And I quite enjoyed the review, as I share your views on Watson, but never bothered to read this series. I admire your commitment. One thing though: what was the incident on the planet you were talking about? It sounds like a virus, toxic chemical spill and nuclear meltdown all at once. -----signature----- My Icons: http://www.powow.com/thrawnrocks/icons.html Roan Fel's badassery knows no bounds. "The next Allston book should be all Syal and Myri, all the time." - Jello
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Liliedhe Registered: Feb '09	Date Posted: 6/20 1:50pm Subject: Journey Through the EU: Disc. Jedi Quest #1 - The Way of the Apprentice - Jude Watson
	Well, the series certainly is more doom laden than Jedi Apprentice, because the times are different and the main characters are too. Also, tensions last from one book to the next, and get resolved only temporarily, just to resurface again. It's a good series, but I personally like Jedi Apprentice better...^^ I love to see a fictional universe just "work", see things done on a more or less routine basis, not the big crisis or catastrophes, but the "day's work". Aside from Jedi Apprentice I remember nothing that delivers that, with the exception of occasional scenes in other books... To care that the existence of a Galaxy or civilization is at stake, I want to be able to put normal faces to that fictional universe, not just the heroes. All three of Jude Watson's series do that and that's why I like them so much. -----signature----- Joint Winner - PT Trivia Challenge 18+New Edition
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Rogue1-and-a-half Title: Manager: Amphitheatre Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 6/22 2:12pm Subject: Journey Through the EU: Disc. Jedi Quest #1 - The Way of the Apprentice - Jude Watson
	I try not to comment on what I've read since I've written the review I've just posted, but I should mention that, at this point, I've read the next two books in this series and they have begun to fulfill my expectations wonderfully. More on the infusion of cynicism in Palpatine's universe to come with the reviews for those books. -----signature----- Don't be a fool, don't be blind Heart of mine If you can't do the time, don't do the crime Heart of mine
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Rogue1-and-a-half Title: Manager: Amphitheatre Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 7/18 9:13am Subject: Journey Through the EU: Disc. Jedi Quest #1 - The Way of the Apprentice - Jude Watson
	Jedi Quest 2: The Trail of the Jedi - Jude Watson You know, in retrospect, the cover of this book has nothing to do with the plot. Obi-Wan and Anakin facing each other over crossed lightsabers while a ship cruises through a cloud of explosions behind them. Neither of which things happened in the book. Obi-Wan and Anakin are travelling to Ragoon-6 for a training excercise; a specially trained Jedi named Wren will lead them into the wilderness (the entire planet is a designated wilderness area that the Jedi have permission to use) and they will have ten days to track him down. It's a bonding excercise. Anakin bolts out of the gate like a little snot. "Wren is certainly looking forward to puzzling us," Obi-Wan observed. "He really should get out more," Anakin said. Obi-Wan, speaking about Wren: He has served for most his life. Now he wishes to give back his knowledge to the padawans. It is a noble gesture. Anakin, thinking: Noble, but boring. I love this kid. Obi-Wan remarks that he and Qui-Gon's first training excercise on Ragoon-6 was interrupted by a bad vision about Tahl; it was when Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan left Ragoon-6 to try to find her that they were embroiled in the adventure that eventually led to her death. I don't remember that at all. A great bit where Anakin muses on the fact that Obi-Wan did not really choose him at all; he was chosen by Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan 'could not ignore his beloved master's dying wish.' Anakin thinks about a friend and the way the Jedi Master who eventually chose him watched him for weeks before finally blessing him with his choice. For the first time, Anakin sees the difference in the way Obi-Wan 'chose' him. In a parallel passage, we see inside Obi-Wan's thought. In his mind is the theme of the book; silence. How does one know how much to share with a Padawan? How does one form a bond? As in all of these freaking books, Obi-Wan and Anakin are attacked by wild animals. A funny bit when Anakin is confronted by a young girl wielding a blaster. "I know how to use this," she snaps. Obi-Wan disarms her and tosses the 'weapon' to Anakin. "You know how to use a HYDROSPANNER?" he blurts. "Were you going to fix my speeder?" Huh, a Stokhli Spray Stick. Aren't those from the Thrawn Trilogy? Anyway, Floria, the young girl, is marooned on the planet. She came on a field trip, but her teacher and fellow students were all killed by mysterious people from whom she managed to escape. Obi-Wan and Anakin attempt to take her back to their ship, but they are attacked by a Bounty Hunter with a Stokhli Spray Stick. When Obi-Wan and Anakin attempt to take off in their ship, after disabling the bounty hunter with his own weapon, they discover a bomb on board and barely escape the blast. Their ship destroyed, they are now themselves marooned. Anyway, long story short, the planet is crawling with bounty hunters, all hired by a mysterious fellow named Granta Omega to capture Obi-Wan and Anakin. Floria, along with her brother, Dane, are also bounty hunters, attempting to manipulate Obi-Wan and Anakin. Obi-Wan forces the two of them to tag along with them as they flee into the forest to escape the other bounty hunters. Can I just say? This is like what, the fifty thousandth sibling pair Watson has given us? She's got a fetish, I think. Amusingly, I found this rather brilliant and perverse; the story Floria spins for Obi-Wan and Anakin is very Watsonesque and the character of Floria, the golden haired, vulnerable, beautiful young girl, could be pulled out of any number of her other books. Of course, this time, she turns out to be lying through her teeth. So I found that quite funny and clever. Of course, since this is Watson, the siblings are constantly bickering 'hilariously.' "You always get off the subject." "I don't." "You do too. Always." "You shouldn't say always . . ." Obi-Wan and Anakin, bounty hunter siblings in tow, head into the forest to try to find Wren; now, it's no longer an exercise. The action sequence where they find Wren, left as a decoy to lure them into a trap, is a pretty good one. They pursue the bounty hunter into the trees and end up siccing a bunch of wild birds on him. They carry him off and, given his non-reappearance, probably peck him to death and messily devour his remains. A nice bit when the Jedi return to where they left the paralyzed bounty hunter they first encountered, intending to interrogate him only to find that some one has murdered him while they've been gone. Obi-Wan gets Dane and Floria to call Granta Omega and set up a meeting with him. They say they've captured the Jedi but have no transport. He agrees to meet them. At the climax, they are attacked by another bounty hunter and he ends up basically committing suicide after Obi-Wan bests him, so terrified is he of failing Granta Omega. A nice moment when Obi-Wan pauses to mourn for the fallen bounty hunter. "I am saying goodbye to a being I did not know." "He could have killed you." "But he did not." Brilliant. Anakin doesn't quite understand this perspective and he thinks to himself, "Something to meditate on in my next session. I'll add it to the list." I actually laughed out loud on that one. Captures perfectly the sarcastic tone of Anakin at this point and also the frustration of this rather mismatched Master/Padawan pair. Anyway, Obi-Wan figures out that an injured bounty hunter they passed on their way to meet Omega was actually Omega himself; he deduced the trick Obi-Wan was trying to play and did not meet them. The injured bounty hunter was disfigured horribly and Obi-Wan deduces that it was a disguise Omega was using. Obi-Wan posits that in order for Omega to have slipped by them in this way without their knowledge, that he must have some skill in manipulating the Force to hide his true intentions. Anakin expresses surprise that the Jedi can actually be fooled in this way. Jedi can be tricked, my young padawan. They can be wrong. They can make mistakes. Do not forget that. In a moment that's actually quite striking, Obi-Wan quizzes Dane and Floria about the 'bounty hunter' that was actually Omega. They both remember him with drastically different physical descriptions, one saying he was wearing white, tall and with black hair, the other saying he was short, in black and bald. I actually found that moment surprisingly effective and slightly chilling. Obi-Wan discovers a Sith holocron left behind at the place where Omega's ship landed and took off. He debates not showing it to Anakin because he remembers how Anakin was effected on the Lundi mission. Anakin can feel the Dark Side as well and pressures him. In a great moment, Obi-Wan thinks again of how different Anakin is from him. And then he instantly thinks, "And if he is so different from you, then why do you continually treat him as a younger version of you?" And the voice that asks this question is not Qui-Gon's voice, but his own. So, kudos. These books finally caught up with Rogue Planet by having Obi-Wan realize, at the end of the book, that Anakin is not Obi-Wan and Obi-Wan is not Qui-Gon. They will have to blaze their own path. Obi-Wan and Anakin, back on Coruscant, visit Didi and Astri's cafe; it's now owned by Dexter Jettster. Hermione Bagwa is not in evidence. It's actually quite touching, Obi-Wan and Anakin's final scene together here. They speak, briefly, about trying to understand each other, Obi-Wan reaffirms that on this journey they can only blaze their own path and they touch glasses in a great moment that felt very warm and emotional. And across Dexter's Cafe, a mysterious figure watches them, hidden from them in the Force. He is already planning to meet them again, very soon . . . I have to just say that I was incredibly surprised at how much I enjoyed this book. It was different, for one thing, and it was actually pretty well crafted. By putting Obi-Wan and Anakin on Ragoon-6 and marooning them, it had a great little bottle story. Every time they would find a ship, something would be wrong with it; every time they defeated one bounty hunter, another would pop up; every time they thought they had the siblings on their side, they'd try something slick. And just the little things. When they find Wren, he's actually so badly hurt, that they have to simply leave him in the bounty hunter's disabled ship, while they strike out to try to find another ship. And then the little subversive notes really play well. As I said, Fiola and Dane are sort of the stereotypical sibling pair from a Watson book, flipped on their heads, manipulative and pragmatic. Wren is actually somewhat pretentious and probably really SHOULD get out more. And Anakin gets off several witty lines that really capture the adolescent mindset very well. And there's real character development in Obi-Wan's realization. It mirrors Rogue Planet, but in an odd way this actually almost works. Rogue Planet is Obi-Wan growing up for adults; this is Obi-Wan growing up for the kids. Alternate versions of the same character arc, if you will. As well, this starts something that the Watson books . . . well, they didn't excel exactly, but they were better in a story arc than in the more episodic books. At their worst, the books just seemed utterly rote and disconnected, like one of those filler episodes in the middle of a season of television. But in the midst of something like the Jenna Zan Arbor arc or the Tahl arc, the Watson books actually achieved a somewhat interesting level of energy, if the prose never achieved anything like real greatness. So, after a lackluster, bland, episodic first installment in the Jedi Quest series, we are plunged into what looks to be a multi-book story arc. Given that the Quest series only has ten books, dare I hope that this story arc extends over all of them. Yeah . . . doubtful, but I can hope, I suppose. Bottom line: energetic, a bit subversive and it actually puts our Jedi heroes in a situation where they really have to think and work to survive. I enjoyed this one. Flat prose and all. 1/2 out of ** stars. -----signature----- Don't be a fool, don't be blind Heart of mine If you can't do the time, don't do the crime Heart of mine
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Liliedhe Registered: Feb '09	Date Posted: 7/18 11:33am Subject: Journey Through the EU: Disc. Jedi Quest #2 - The Trail of the Jedi - Jude Watson
	Yeah, that book was really good. While I love Jedi Apprentice, the relationship between Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan is quite well developed and doesn't change that much after a few rocky passages in the beginning. Jedi Quest has a far more... difficult relationship between two very different characters who are both very much in doubt about themselves and the other. And everytime they take a step forward, it's followed by some steps back. The pacing is much tighter, and there are far more threads drawn from book to book. -----signature----- Joint Winner - PT Trivia Challenge 18+New Edition
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Rogue1-and-a-half Title: Manager: Amphitheatre Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 7/23 2:35pm Subject: Journey Through the EU: Disc. Jedi Quest #2 - The Trail of the Jedi - Jude Watson
	Jedi Quest #3: The Dangerous Games – Jude Watson This one opens with Anakin yelling at another pilot trying to cut in front of him in a landing queue. Obi-Wan clears his throat to which Anakin asks, “Do I have to be a Jedi all the time? Even in traffic?” So, Obi-Wan and Anakin are meeting two other Jedi teams at the Galactic Games; think the Olympics, only actually diverse. Anakin’s friend from book one, Tru, is there with his master, Ry-Gaul. And Anakin’s nemesis, Ferus Olin, is there as well, with his teacher, Obi-Wan’s one time nemesis, Siri. Hopefully, this doesn’t mean that Anakin and Ferus will fall in love down the line. Didi Oddo and his daughter, Astri, show up. Astri is married to Bog, a political drudge on the Games Council. Last book, you recall, closed with Obi-Wan and Anakin visiting Didi’s old restaurant, now owned by Dexter Jettster. Anakin visits an area where podracers are preparing for an illegal race. Two of the podracers are related to Ratts Tyerell, who apparently died in the TPM race. We get a staggering figure; it’s been six years since Anakin left Tatooine. I still have trouble dealing with that. Anyway, for those playing the Jude Watson drinking game, you can now take a shot to indicate that you’re aware she’s introduced two squabbling siblings. Everytime, one them calls the other one a name, take another; you’ll be smashed before the chapter is out. These two siblings are racing in order to win their sister’s freedom. Their sister, Djulla, is owned by . . . Sebulba! A great scene as Anakin is first confronted by Sebulba’s son, who will actually be racing for Sebulba in the upcoming race, Hekula. The confrontation spins out of control and Sebulba himself arrives, Anakin coming face to face with him for the first time since Tatooine. Sebulba doesn’t recognize him. One great exchange; SEBULBA: “How dare you bully my son?” HEKULA: “He wasn’t bully me, father. I am bullying him!” That’s just sad, dude. I did find it rather perversely fascinating to get this behind the scenes look; I don’t particularly recall who Ratts Tyerell was (I probably didn’t know the character even had a name), but in this book we discover that the death of this insignificant character in TPM led to his daughter being sold into slavery because his sons had no money. Now, don’t you feel terrible for cheering at how awesome his crash was? Obi-Wan and Didi have a great scene together; Obi-Wan is different from Qui-Gon; he still doesn’t particularly like Didi and it shows. “So you promised me inside information.” “My son in law is an idiot.” “Didi, you said you had information. This is complaining.” Anyway, Didi has stolen money out of his daughter’s bank account to make a bet; he lost the bet. He then steals his son in law’s speeder and sells it to cover his loss; but then he decides that what he really needs to do is make another bet and this time he happens to know it’s a sure thing – the event is fixed. It’s really interesting; in the JA books, Didi was played mostly for laughs and perhaps that is the intent here as well, but he just really comes across as deeply cancerous. He seems entirely real in his narcissism and . . . well, I just really disliked him deeply in this book. And I think, for reasons I’ll explore shortly, that that was actually the intent. Fligh makes an appearance; apparently, I don’t recall those JA Books as well as I thought, since when they mentioned his name, I thought he was a Bothan. He’s not. Obi-Wan finds Anakin in the podrace cave; he’s working on an engine for the two brothers: ANAKIN: “We might have to do it fifty times to get it right. Or we might get lucky and get it right in two.” OBI-WAN: “I hope it’s the latter.” ANAKIN: bumps head Okay, I laughed at that one. Anyway, Fligh tells Obi-Wan and Anakin that the swoop race is fixed. The Jedi head for the event, but the pilot of their air taxi sends the taxi into a dive and then leaps out, managing to escape into the crowd. Anakin lands the taxi and the police show up. The Jedi give a description of the pilot all the way down to which earlobe is bigger. One of the police officers deadpans that they asked another witness and he said the guy “was tall.” Again, a chuckle. Obi-Wan and Anakin, delayed by this assassination attempt, arrive at the event too late. But Fligh’s information is correct; the person he said would win has won. They go to interrogate the official timekeeper for the event and in a scene that I have never seen before, they turn onto the hallway where his room is just as he’s leaving the room. Everyone freezes and then the chase is on. It’s like Jerry Orbach is back there or something. Obi-Wan almost catches the timekeeper but he is struck and killed by a speeder, driven by the pilot of the air-taxi. Obi-Wan pursues, but the pilot again escapes. You know, I’m so glad people are actually getting killed in these books. The timekeeper’s datapad reveals that several other events are also fixed, including the supposedly illegal podrace. Anakin realizes that this means that the two brothers have no chance of winning their sister’s freedom. A killer scene when Sebulba finally recognizes Anakin and confronts him: “Slave boy. All you needed was a little grease on your face.” There’s a scuffle when Sebulba tries to strike Anakin but can’t because of Anakin’s reflexes. He then turns and strikes Djulla; one of the brothers steps in to stop the abuse and ends up with a broken arm. Two guesses what happens next. Yes, that’s right, Aldar Beedo has a cameo! Well, yeah, Anakin promises to fly the podracer for them and he promises to win the race for their sister’s sake. Beedlo does have a cameo; was he the one trying to kill Sebulba in that stupid Podracing Tales thing? Who cares? Didi, needing more cash for the bet, has stolen his son in law’s datapad. Obi-Wan confiscates it and discovers that Bog has been placing bets with a local bookie on all the fixed events – placing bets, not for himself, but for several high powered senators. We get a one line mention of Bail Organa. Oh, I forgot to mention, Jocasta Nu shows up via commlink several times in this one. A great bit when Obi-Wan, undercover at the bookie’s office, tries to place a bet on Deland Tyerell. The bookie nonchalantly informs him that Deland has scratched; “Anakin Skywalker” will be taking his place. God, can’t you just see the look on Obi-Wan’s face? I was rolling on the floor at this point, I must say. I don’t know how Obi-Wan kept from murdering Anakin, really. Obi-Wan confronts Bog and discovers that Bog is being played by his boss, the head of the games council. Obi-Wan deduces that the entire thing is a charade; the list of Senators is, per a call from Jocasta Nu, a batch of senators who have banded together to stop the Commerce Guild’s newest legislation. The Commerce Guild, working with the Ruling Council of the Games, has trumped up these bets in order to blackmail the Senators into letting the legislation pass through. Man, you remember in the JA books, the plots were always like some smuggler is attacking some people or some crap? These books are incredibly much better. I knew the proximity to the Clone Wars would have to bleed over somewhat. Obi-Wan remembers when Astri risked her life to help him rescue Qui-Gon; he swears to himself that he won’t let Bog take the fall for the scheme. Obi-Wan agrees to let Anakin fly in the podrace, mainly because he’s too puzzled with the situation and too busy trying to keep tabs on everyone to deal with Anakin. He sends Tru and Ferus to give Anakin ‘backup.’ Or possibly just to get a little revenge on Anakin. Astri contacts Obi-Wan; Bog was snooping around his boss’ office and has discovered the entire scheme. The head of the Games Council has been doing exactly what Obi-Wan has deduced with the Senators and the fake bets; but she has also rigged things so that at the end of the podrace, the podracer in the lead will lose its ability to steer and will crash into the stands of viewers, killing hundreds; this will give them even more leverage over the Senators, as it will appear from the false evidence that the Senators were complicit in the fixing of the podrace and, ergo, in the crash. Yeah, that’s kind of thin, isn’t it? Obi-Wan finally realizes, after meeting him repeatedly, that the heroic Maxo Vista, a champion from prior years of the games, is the one who tried to kill him and who did kill the timekeeper. Bottom line, Anakin’s in danger and Obi-Wan is forced by Vista to participate in some lame ass arena event. I found this chapter totally forced and not interesting at all. The race begins, Obi-Wan comms Anakin to tell him of the sabotage, Siri places Maxo Vista under arrest. This last bit was actually very suspenseful; Anakin is trying to keep from crashing, win the race, etc, while Obi-Wan is trying to apprehend the head of the Games Council before she can trigger the sabotage. He fails, but Anakin succeeds, using his piloting skills to both keep from crashing and to win the race. The climax is tremendous; Anakin loses it completely and is barely restrained from attacking Sebulba and his son. He accuses them of being the ones who helped in fixing the race. Obi-Wan, thinking it through, realizes that Sebulba is actually innocent; it was the two brothers that Anakin was helping that had colluded to have the race fixed. It was, of course, the only way they could hope to beat Hekula and win their sister’s freedom. They did not know, obviously, that the head of the Council had decided to have them die in a crash at the end of the race. The two brothers have snatched their sister and disappeared. Sebulba curses Anakin to his face, tells him his mother would be ashamed and stalks off. Anakin almost collapses in shame: he was fooled, manipulated and very nearly killed Sebulba and his son, two innocent people, just because of his history with them. The book wraps up with an incredible downbeat. The evidence has disappeared. Didi, who could testify of what he saw on Bog's datapad, has fled the planet because he doesn’t want to be involved. Bog, who also saw everything, has recanted his testimony, in return, Obi-Wan guesses, for a boost up the ladder. Obi-Wan remembers seeing notes Bog carried on his datapad about how to succeed: “Never Contradict a Superior! Follow the Power!” Obi-Wan feels a deep sadness as he remembers this and I admit I felt it too. Astri and Obi-Wan share a quiet moment of deep tragedy; “Didi thought it best to leave the planet. You know he has no moral courage. I seem to have married a similar man.” This is maybe the bleakest thing she could say. Anakin sums up the book perfectly; “Nothing has turned out.” I confess, I’m puzzled by my response to these books; you all recall I’m sure the problems I had with Watson’s other series. I am having almost no problems at all really with these books; the first was rather weak, the second creative and legitimately exciting and with a great cliffhanger ending. This one actually fooled me; like Anakin, I never considered that the two brothers trying to free their sister would turn out to be in league with the villains. In fact, almost every character in this book was eventually revealed to be corrupt, except the Jedi. And at the conclusion, the desire for power has trumped everything; Bog’s reversal was a stunner as well. In the JA books, Bog would have achieved a kind of cheesy redemption by standing up for himself; but in the JQ books, there seems to be little redemption, cheesy or not. Plus, I really enjoyed seeing Watson bring back Didi, Astri and Fligh. Here’s why: instead of being a pointless callback, it’s almost a demythologizing of the characters. We see all their character traits, played as more or less endearing in the JA books, at the extremes. Didi steals from his daughter in order to feed a gambling addiction and does not make good on his promise to back Obi-Wan in the end, having “no moral courage.” Astri can’t see a way out; just as Bog could not challenge his superiors, Astri can’t challenge her husband. And Fligh is deeply amoral and lackadaisical about his actions; he reveals that hundreds of people will doubtless die in an act of sabotage with a literal shrug of his shoulders. The characters are all much deeper here than they usually are in Watson books and the plot more complex. And at times it seems Watson is rejecting herself; the squabbling siblings, an archetype we’ve seen countless times in Watson’s work, is here shown to be corrupted, manipulative, desperate. And Anakin’s meltdown was legitimately terrifying here; like me, he had assumed Sebulba’s guIlt and the scene in which he very nearly draws down on Sebulba and his son with his saber was frightening in the extreme. I said in my very first review of a JQ book, that I had the feeling they’d be much more cynical and doom laden than the JA books; Watson is proving me right in spades. Her prose is lacking, sure, but we are definitely in the era of Palpatine now; gray shades this book completely. No one is really bad (Astri says it explicitly of Bog and Obi-Wan of the two brothers who lead Anakin down the garden path), but all are committed to, for one reason or another, doing bad things. Hmm, look at that; I saw a movie about that once – a whole series of movies, actually, about what happens when someone good feels they have to do something bad. Maybe you’ve heard of them – Star Wars, I think they’re called. Jude. Kudos – two thumbs up. Poor prose isn’t crippling, not when you’re this committed to subverting expectations. And as always, it’s a little sweeter when the artist digs under the very foundation she herself has lain. Book Two was better than average because it had a fairly dark view of Anakin and Obi-Wan’s relationship with each other. This one succeeds because it has a dark view of everything else. Keep on letting them get away with it, Jude; you’re easier to read when you’re not being trite. I suppose everyone is. out of ** stars. -----signature----- Don't be a fool, don't be blind Heart of mine If you can't do the time, don't do the crime Heart of mine
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Liliedhe Registered: Feb '09	Date Posted: 7/24 1:40am Subject: Journey Through the EU: Disc. Jedi Quest #3 - The Dangerous Games - Jude Watson
	Yes, that one was just... dark. I honestly liked what became of Astri and Diddi, and that story will continue. It's been a bit since I read those books, but I recall it's a bumpy road downhill from here. Especially where Astri's husband is concerned. -----signature----- Joint Winner - PT Trivia Challenge 18+New Edition
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HedecGa Registered: Apr '06	Date Posted: 7/24 6:47pm Subject: Journey Through the EU: Disc. Jedi Quest #3 - The Dangerous Games - Jude Watson
	I never got a chance to read this book and now that it's apparently out of print and not at the local library, I doubt I ever will. What's the extent of podracer Kam Nale/Elan Mak's role in this? -----signature----- "The Coming Evil, Book One: The Strange Man" available NOW at http://www.thecomingevil.blogspot.com Author of the Dusty Duck databank entry - The 71st "Greatest Thing About Star Wars...Ever!" - SW Insider 100 Co-author of the Silya Shessaun databank
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The2ndQuest Title: Manager: -Literature -LACWAC -Games Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 7/24 8:06pm Subject: Journey Through the EU: Disc. Jedi Quest #3 - The Dangerous Games - Jude Watson
	Wasn't this one also sort of a tie-in/adaptation of events/based on the PS2 Racer Revenge game? -----signature----- "When your future self tells you to do something, YOU DO IT." K'Kruhk, 140 ABY:"Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..."
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Rogue1-and-a-half Title: Manager: Amphitheatre Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 7/25 8:43am Subject: Journey Through the EU: Disc. Jedi Quest #3 - The Dangerous Games - Jude Watson
	HedecGa posted: What's the extent of podracer Kam Nale/Elan Mak's role in this? I don't recall him being mentioned; looking at Wookiepedia, I vaguely remember him from Malastare and Podracing Tales. It wouldn't surprise me if he was mentioned, since Wookiepedia says he is in Dangerous Games, but as far as having a real role in the book, there was none. It didn't advance anything about his vendetta against Beedo, if that's what you're wondering about. I wasn't aware of the PS2 game you mention, Quest, but looking at the page on Wookiepedia, I don't see too much connection. Both of them just seem to sort of be riffs on the question of what would happen if Anakin and Sebulba met up again, a few years down the line from TPM. Beyond that, I don't see much. But then, the page on Wookiepedia doesn't give that much info on the game really, so I couldn't say for sure. -----signature----- Don't be a fool, don't be blind Heart of mine If you can't do the time, don't do the crime Heart of mine
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blackmyron Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 7/25 12:23pm Subject: Journey Through the EU: Disc. Jedi Quest #3 - The Dangerous Games - Jude Watson
	There's a nice little namecheck in there, as Bail Organa appears on the phony list of senators. -----signature----- Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Come on Dave, you're taking this stuff too seriously." - George Lucas "Reality can rarely be explained without contradictions." - Karnak
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The2ndQuest Title: Manager: -Literature -LACWAC -Games Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 7/29 9:24pm Subject: Journey Through the EU: Disc. Jedi Quest #3 - The Dangerous Games - Jude Watson - Date Edited: 7/29 9:30pm (2 edits total) Edited By: The2ndQuest
	Since I haven't read JQ yet, I can't add too much else, but since I find it an interesting timeline comparison perspective, if I'm doing the math right, using Rogue's "end of the NJO" (29 ABY- I assume you meant The Unifying Force and not the "NJO era" end of 40 ABY?) to equal 2005 reference (which is neat since that makes ANH occur in 1976, when the novelization was published), then with JQ #3 taking place at 27 BBY (according to it's wook entry), and JQ#3 is equivalent to 1949. TPM would be 1944 AOTC would be 1954 ROTS would be 1957 ANH would be 1976 ESB would be 1979 ROTJ would be 1980 Dark Empire would be 1986 Vector Prime would be 2001 Kinda neat that DE would mark, in the real world, sort of the beginning of SW's dark age prior to the 90's resurgence, and that VP would coincide with a year known for the start of many bad things. -----signature----- "When your future self tells you to do something, YOU DO IT." K'Kruhk, 140 ABY:"Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..."
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Valin__Kenobi Title: Author: Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Praji Registered: Mar '04	Date Posted: 7/29 9:38pm Subject: Journey Through the EU: Disc. Jedi Quest #3 - The Dangerous Games - Jude Watson
	HedecGa posted: I never got a chance to read this book and now that it's apparently out of print and not at the local library, I doubt I ever will. Interlibrary loan? -----signature----- Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Fanboy: http://blogs.starwars.com/valinkenobi Generation Bantam/KJA/WEG "Before the "Oprah effect" bookstores were like monasteries. Now it's like going to Best Buy." -- Arawn_Fenn
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HedecGa Registered: Apr '06	Date Posted: 7/29 10:00pm Subject: Journey Through the EU: Disc. Jedi Quest #3 - The Dangerous Games - Jude Watson
	Hmmm....have never actually tried that. -----signature----- "The Coming Evil, Book One: The Strange Man" available NOW at http://www.thecomingevil.blogspot.com Author of the Dusty Duck databank entry - The 71st "Greatest Thing About Star Wars...Ever!" - SW Insider 100 Co-author of the Silya Shessaun databank
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Valin__Kenobi Title: Author: Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Praji Registered: Mar '04	Date Posted: 7/29 10:35pm Subject: Journey Through the EU: Disc. Jedi Quest #3 - The Dangerous Games - Jude Watson
	Worldcat just tells you where copies are but you should be able to ILL from your library, no problems. -----signature----- Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Fanboy: http://blogs.starwars.com/valinkenobi Generation Bantam/KJA/WEG "Before the "Oprah effect" bookstores were like monasteries. Now it's like going to Best Buy." -- Arawn_Fenn
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