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LijoT Registered: Jan '05	Date Posted: 6/14/05 8:29pm Subject: RE: Journey Through the EU: A Retrospective Project
	I haven't read YJK either, but the tree guy (Ood Bnar) died in DE2, as a result of a fight with Sedriss, taking him down with him, though he left behind a descendant in the form of a tiny sapling. -----signature----- "In a time of greatest adversity, The Greatest Jedi will be born. So it is that a man, Luke Skywalker, heir to a 25,000 year old tradition, has found the courage to challenge the dark side on its own ground."
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Darth_Guy Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 6/14/05 8:30pm Subject: RE: Journey Through the EU: A Retrospective Project
	Ood Bnar = The Deku Tree?! -----signature----- Perhaps I'll breed some sort of albino shouting gorilla.
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jaya02 Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 6/14/05 8:46pm Subject: RE: Journey Through the EU: A Retrospective Project
	Well, all I remember was this force sensitive tree that said that it had been trained by the Jedi and it took out a couple of Shadow Academy's Dark Jedi after they landed on Yavin 4 and were searching the jungle for Jedi to kill.
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Sturm Antilles Title: Former Manager Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 6/14/05 8:47pm Subject: RE: Journey Through the EU: A Retrospective Project
	Whatever it is, it's not Ood, 'cause he Force-blew himself up along with Executor Sedriss in DEII. -----signature----- "You're the most compliant rebel I've ever met." - jaya02 Currently reading : About seven different novels at once.
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jaya02 Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 6/14/05 8:54pm Subject: RE: Journey Through the EU: A Retrospective Project
	No, I don't remember the tree Jedi having a name. I think that little bit of the story was done in a somwhat 2nd person narrative. I only remember it being odd.
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Paladin307 Registered: Nov '04	Date Posted: 6/14/05 9:40pm Subject: RE: Journey Through the EU: A Retrospective Project
	*Okay, in what frigging galaxy would droids be able to attack a gathering of every Jedi in the galaxy and actually take names? See this is why I get pissed everytime people bring up how great and powerful the ancient Jedi order is compared to the prequel Jedi that got massacred on Geonosis. They ignore the damn events of the time period.
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ThrawnRocks Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 6/14/05 10:06pm Subject: RE: Journey Through the EU: A Retrospective Project
	Darth_Guy posted: Ood Bnar = The Deku Tree?! LMAO! Rogue1-and-a-half posted: I thought Nomi was a very interesting character. But at this point, she’s a truly annoyingly self-righteous bitch. Anderson has is really good at doing that. In Jedi Search I thought that Kyp was a cool, multi dimentional character. Then Anderson went and turned him into the uber annoying force brat that we all knowand love -----signature----- My Icons: http://www.powow.com/thrawnrocks/icons.html Roan Fel's badassery knows no bounds. "The next Allston book should be all Syal and Myri, all the time." - Jello
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Rogue1-and-a-half Title: Manager: Amphitheatre Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 6/15/05 2:13pm Subject: RE: Journey Through the EU: A Retrospective Project - Date Edited: 6/15/05 2:13pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Rogue1-and-a-half
	Yes, I read DE II. I remember the Jedi Tree in that one. I just, I don't know, think that's stupid. It's even stupider when you consider that he's been a tree for 4,000 years. I keep hearing him say, "Yes, I was bored, thanks for asking." So, no one's going to attempt to defend Nomi's actions? -----signature----- Don't be a fool, don't be blind Heart of mine If you can't do the time, don't do the crime Heart of mine
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HauntedLord Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 6/15/05 2:53pm Subject: RE: Journey Through the EU: A Retrospective Project - Date Edited: 6/15/05 4:04pm (1 edits total) Edited By: HauntedLord
	The vast array of EU material will drive even the sanest into worshipping Waru (see: Jello). I think your plan to map the EU is awesome. Just dont wall to the Waru side, like so many others... shivers Lovin your reviews, by the way... -----signature----- Generals gathered in their masses Just like witches at black masses Evil minds that plot destruction Socerers of death's constuction leader of the Anti-Waru Strike Force
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Excellence Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 6/16/05 12:41am Subject: RE: Journey Through the EU: A Retrospective Project
	What do we know about Neti-class species? Why should them leaving a sprout after death be weird? -----signature----- Rock-a-by baby, on the treetop, Beaming with pride, the filth they hold, But when the wind blows, my temper implodes, High above a pit, filled with sharkticons, Down will come hardcover addicts, beaming no more. ©
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LijoT Registered: Jan '05	Date Posted: 6/16/05 12:53am Subject: RE: Journey Through the EU: A Retrospective Project
	So, no one's going to attempt to defend Nomi's actions? How could anyone? She acted like the perfect little dark Jedi there -----signature----- "In a time of greatest adversity, The Greatest Jedi will be born. So it is that a man, Luke Skywalker, heir to a 25,000 year old tradition, has found the courage to challenge the dark side on its own ground."
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Rogue1-and-a-half Title: Manager: Amphitheatre Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 6/16/05 7:39pm Subject: RE: Journey Through the EU: A Retrospective Project
	The Most Dangerous Foe – Angela Phillips Can’t find this one anywhere. 3,986 Years Before ANH: Redemption – Kevin J. Anderson A few words about redemption. It’s at the heart of a lot of great, great literature. It’s a wonderful, beautiful word and I think to some degree, we’re all searching for redemption, the idea of atoning for our mistakes and reaching some sort of a feeling of purity and success. The idea of coming back from our failures and our wounds and doing something worthwhile and powerful is a strong and an evocative one. One that, frankly, I’ve failed to even begin to do justice here. I said at the beginning of this series that I’d discuss how the works of EU relate to other works of art. This one’s just too big to even begin to discuss. The idea of redemption is a truly permeating one. And it never fails to move me. Maybe it’s the Christian idea of Jesus redeeming the world, Scrooge whispering “Back payments, back payments,” Royal Tenenbaum staring over the table and saying, “Can’t a guy be a *** his whole life and then just try to make up for it?” Maybe it’s Lord Jim taking that long walk into the village, a dead man’s ring in his hand. Maybe it’s Mitya Karamazov consigning himself to a life of suffering, knowing he doesn’t have to. Sometimes it’s a big thing, a show stopper like a dying soldier telling another, “Earn this.” Sometimes it’s a small thing, that seems barely worth mentioning, like a father tossing the game ball his son just gave him up in the air. Regardless, it’s redemption. Redemption, as Caedmon’s Call said it, is a road and its one we’re all walking at varying speeds and with varying stories. But redemption is the name of the game. Anyway, if redemption isn’t the most personally evocative word in the English language for me, it’s in the top ten. So I went into this book with high hopes. Ten years after the events of The Sith War, which is enough time for our characters to have grown. I’m going to be a lot more vague about this one than I have been about the others I’ve reviewed thus far. Why? Because this one succeeds and marvelously so. You should all read it. Really. Vima Sunrider, it should be noted, is drawn in an absolutely adorable fashion. She’s devastatingly cute. The drawings here are uniformly fantastic. The scenery is gorgeous and the characters are both recognizable and changed. Ulic, especially, is brilliant, all haggard lines and haunted eyes. Fantastic. Even Sylvar, a character who was so cardboard it was ridiculous in the original stories, comes across as real and breathing here. She has several truly fine and emotional moments. What’s so great about this story is that it’s more than just Ulic’s search for redemption. It’s about Nomi’s search as well and even more so about Sylvar’s. At the end of The Sith War, I blasted Nomi Sunrider quite harshly. Vima gets off a great line, speaking of Ulic: “I think my mother resented him more for leaving us than for the crimes he committed.” Bingo. Dead on target. See, when they made Nomi into that kind of a dark hearted character in The Sith War, I did not believe that they would ever actually explore that weakness. But they do so here. I thought it was unintentional by the authors. Apparently not. Apparently, it was shading. Kudos for not being afraid to look at the negative side of your “good” characters. And, amazingly, the authors pull of Vima’s rather rebellious and whiny character without making her the least bit annoying. Rather she seems supremely tragic and strong of heart. That’s amazing. Most of the time these kinds of characters are so annoying I can’t stand them. Some people said that the characters here are cliched. And perhaps they are familiar: the wounded warrior struggling for redemption, the distant mother, the angry and grieving survivor, the disconnected teenage girl hungry for a male mentor. But to a greater degree, these characters are archetypes, not stereotypes, characters that seem so deeply ingrained in our conscious minds (and our unconscious ones) that they seem old friends. Toward supporting this, I’ll mention the ring that Ulic wears on a cord around his neck. I honestly cannot recall the significance of this ring. Is it something of Cay’s? Of Arca’s? Perhaps a gift from Nomi? Perhaps an intended gift FOR Nomi? Darned if I know. But I don’t need to know. I know instantly and instinctively that it means something important and, frankly, that’s all that is important. Another complaint levied at this series is that it’s plotless. And it certainly is meandering and methodical. Someone said nothing really happens. No, unless you count the struggles of four separate individuals to come to terms with their mistakes and rectify their lives. Other than that, nothing happens. I should mention that in previous books in this series, worlds have fallen, body counts have ranged into the thousands, etc, etc. But it was all so much sound and fury, signifying nothing since we didn’t really care about any of the characters. This installment focuses on the much more compelling and resonant areas of struggle, the interior ones. This gets down where we live and, by doing so, manages to actually have a powerful message of forgiveness and hope. And the ending made me cry. Really. It’s truly beautiful and moving. Powerful and thought provoking. Lucas should take this strong and challenging an approach to the same subject matter. Seriously, this is the first EU work that I’d call “Essential.” You all need to read this beautiful and moving book. Yes, I know it’s a work by Kevin J. Anderson. I find the fact that it is moving, resonant and powerful just as bizarre as you do. I’m shocked. ** out of ** stars. -----signature----- Don't be a fool, don't be blind Heart of mine If you can't do the time, don't do the crime Heart of mine
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jaya02 Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 6/16/05 7:54pm Subject: RE: Journey Through the EU: A Retrospective Project
	a work by Kevin J. Anderson moving, resonant and powerful Two subject matters I never thought I would see put together. Mind-blowing.
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Sturm Antilles Title: Former Manager Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 6/16/05 8:10pm Subject: RE: Journey Through the EU: A Retrospective Project - Date Edited: 6/16/05 8:18pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Sturm Antilles
	I must copy my post from Page 1 : You know, I recently reread the whole TotJ series again preceding RotS, and I enjoyed it more than ever. Although, yes, TGAotS and FotSE are the weakest of the lot. You know what's interesting...when I originally read Redemption, I was like, "Eh, that was okay. Not worthy of the hype though." Then I read it again this year and was blown away by how much I enjoyed it. Weird. Edit - By the way...as shocking as Kevin Anderson coming up with a four-star story...I'm just as shocked that Rogue likes a story. -----signature----- "You're the most compliant rebel I've ever met." - jaya02 Currently reading : About seven different novels at once.
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mrslush50 Registered: Feb '03	Date Posted: 6/17/05 4:57pm Subject: RE: Journey Through the EU: A Retrospective Project - Date Edited: 6/17/05 4:59pm (1 edits total) Edited By: mrslush50
	"I've played most of the other games. I really want to play this one, but my computer doesn't support it, and I'm not willing to make expensive upgrades for the sake of a game." um.... $125 used Xbox + $17 used KotOR game = 60 hours of starwars goodness. who need thousands of dollars in computer upgrades when you've got bill's big black box to play with? -----signature----- Master of Ideas... Forgetter of Details Adoptee of Jedi_Sha Delta 6 (Lieutenant) EUDF Want to get added to my WUL? It's easy! See my bio for details. --> http://boards.theforce.net/user.asp?usr=787041
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