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Author Topic: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" & "Lord of War" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86)
Super_Battle_Droid  3489 posts
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Date Posted: 12/8/05 5:32pm Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86) - Date Edited: 12/8/05 5:34pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Super_Battle_Droid
It's obvious the name Grievous came from the fact that he causes grief, pain, and anguish. tongue

 

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Halagad_Ventor  1278 posts
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Date Posted: 12/8/05 7:28pm Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86)
That's it ...Bob it is. I'm calling my editor.

Super_Battle_Droid posted:
It's obvious the name Grievous came from the fact that he causes grief, pain, and anguish. tongue
Caused it, or experienced it?

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Kudzu  6437 posts
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Date Posted: 12/8/05 7:54pm Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86)
Halagad_Ventor posted:
That's it ...Bob it is. I'm calling my editor.

Super_Battle_Droid posted:
It's obvious the name Grievous came from the fact that he causes grief, pain, and anguish. tongue
Caused it, or experienced it?

Take care,
Abel


Precisely. Because he was so grievously injured.

 

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DarthRotten  956 posts
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Date Posted: 12/8/05 8:19pm Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86)
I never really minded his name actually being Grevious. It's not to different from Skywalker or Solo. Although even Lucas originally planned for Shmi's name to be Shmi Warka and Anakin's was only Skywalker because it was his racing name. And Han was born Han Suul according to COPL.

Anyway, great to hear from you on here, Abel. I was disappointed to learn that the Huks that Grevious fought were insectoid. I thought that it was a reference to those aliens from Marvel that were cute little feline-like people as children but then morph into giant brutes at the (immediate) onset of puberty. I would've loved someone to write them into the PT-era! I still love "Small Wars" where they (the Lahsbees?) fight the Ewoks over the affections of an Ewok Princess.

 

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wookieepedian1  309 posts
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Date Posted: 12/8/05 8:28pm Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86)
Maybe the Huks are thinking ... Gremlins. They start out cute and furry and, well you know the rest.

 

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Barriss_Coffee  5797 posts
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Date Posted: 12/8/05 9:43pm Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86)

Halagad Ventor posted:
Super_Battle_Droid posted:
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It's obvious the name Grievous came from the fact that he causes grief, pain, and anguish.
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Caused it, or experienced it?




I thought it would come to this. I could never imagine Grievy saying, "I'm an evil villain who spreads grief, pain, and anguish to one and all... henceforth I shall call myself General Grievous." LOE seemed to hint that the name had something to do with his past.... I'm interested to see who came up with it first.

 

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wookieepedian1  309 posts
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Date Posted: 12/8/05 10:32pm Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86)
A little off topic but this question is for Coffee. Since Nute Gunray is your hero, can you explain how they might have come up with his name and if the 'gunray' part really means anything. I assume a raygun but we never see him shoot a weapon.

 

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QuentinGeorge  4769 posts
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Date Posted: 12/9/05 1:47am Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86)
IIRC correctly, is a combination of "Nute" (as in Newt Gingrich) and "Gunray" (as in Ronald Reagan (Ray-gun -> Gun-ray).

Similar deal with Lott Dodd.

 

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Barriss_Coffee  5797 posts
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Date Posted: 12/9/05 10:23am Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86)
IIRC correctly, is a combination of "Nute" (as in Newt Gingrich) and "Gunray" (as in Ronald Reagan (Ray-gun -> Gun-ray).


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Yeah well, Nute didn't act like Newt or Reagan. Unless, of course, he was an actor in his younger days...

 

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Date Posted: 12/9/05 11:06am Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86)
Barriss_Coffee posted:
IIRC correctly, is a combination of "Nute" (as in Newt Gingrich) and "Gunray" (as in Ronald Reagan (Ray-gun -> Gun-ray).


angry


Yeah well, Nute didn't act like Newt or Reagan. Unless, of course, he was an actor in his younger days...


For what its worth, an idea being perpetuated out there is that the allusion being made is that Gunray and the rest of the Trade Federation operated like politically corrupt, greedy, capitalists (e.g.: Regan and Gingrich, also Lott Dod --> Trent Lott).

 
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Halagad_Ventor  1278 posts
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Date Posted: 12/9/05 2:40pm Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86)
Kudzu posted:
Precisely. Because he was so grievously injured.
Maybe... now would that be physically or emotionally?

DarthRotten posted:
I never really minded his name actually being Grevious. It's not to different from Skywalker or Solo.
You're right, however I tried to play up any parallels between Grievous and Vader since George intended the character as a thematic prototype to Vader, so I thought it made sense to make Grievous an adopted name.

DarthRotten posted:
Anyway, great to hear from you on here, Abel. I was disappointed to learn that the Huks that Grevious fought were insectoid. I thought that it was a reference to those aliens from Marvel that were cute little feline-like people as children but then morph into giant brutes at the (immediate) onset of puberty. I would've loved someone to write them into the PT-era! I still love "Small Wars" where they (the Lahsbees?) fight the Ewoks over the affections of an Ewok Princess.
happy I immediately thought of the Huhks too. Then the Houks. Suffice to say, that while neither of these alien species are the Huk, their existence did influence the portrayal of their homonymic brethren for the article.

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Halagad_Ventor  1278 posts
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Date Posted: 12/9/05 2:56pm Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86)
wookieepedian1 posted:
Maybe the Huks are thinking ... Gremlins. They start out cute and furry and, well you know the rest.
That basically describes the Huhk from the Marvel comics. I think they actually beat the Gremlins movies to the punch.

Barriss_Coffee posted:
I thought it would come to this. I could never imagine Grievy saying, "I'm an evil villain who spreads grief, pain, and anguish to one and all... henceforth I shall call myself General Grievous." LOE seemed to hint that the name had something to do with his past.... I'm interested to see who came up with it first.
In the words of Yoda, "You will know..." wink

Grievous is a bad, bad man. And like most, he's haunted. He's built up layers and layers between himself and his humanity, or Kaleeshity as it were, to the point that he becomes an automaton, his egoism and self-centeredness empowering the Sith to manipulate him like a puppet.

Take care,
Abel

 

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Date Posted: 12/9/05 3:01pm Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86) - Date Edited: 12/9/05 3:02pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Rogue_Follower
[i]>>>That basically describes the Huhk from the Marvel comics. I think they actually beat the Gremlins movies to the punch.

 
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Halagad_Ventor  1278 posts
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Date Posted: 12/9/05 3:14pm Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86)
The Marvels were ahead of their time.

 

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Date Posted: 12/9/05 8:51pm Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86)
arent the kowakian lizard monkeys the gremlins of the star wars galaxy?

 

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