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Super_Battle_Droid  3489 posts
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Date Posted: 8/1/06 2:06pm Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" & "Lord of War" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86) - Date Edited: 8/1/06 2:08pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Super_Battle_Droid
It looks more like a goat in a dress. tongue

 

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Halagad_Ventor  1278 posts
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Date Posted: 8/1/06 2:18pm Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" & "Lord of War" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86)
kecen posted:
Kaleesh of course. But albino and wearing an 1800's style dress.
Ah, unmasked.

And uninhibited.

 

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karabbackilla  122 posts
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Date Posted: 8/6/06 5:48pm Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" & "Lord of War" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86)
Hoo, cool, I can post over here too. Well whadda you know bout that! My primitive mind is always amazed at the unlimited fun of computerdom.

Halagad, I want to say thanx for keeping the Grievous flame alive! Just read end notes 3 and 4, and I am chomping at the bit to read 'The making of Qymaen jai Sheelal'! I can't wait to see which real life 'characters'/and or events contributed to his identity. Personally, I see a little Pancho Villa in Qymaen, but thats just me, I'm weird.

This has probably already been asked, and if it has,1000 apologies to you. (strangely, at the tender age of 37, I appear to be suffering senility, or at least CRS)Anyway...do you think there will ever be a comic series or graphic novel type thing that adresses the huk/kaleesh conflict? Gods, that would be sweet, and would give us Grievous/kaleesh fans something else to sink our teeth into. I keep my G-love alive by drawing, and right now I am trying to figure out the logistics of a backwards swimming shoni!! I'm thinking a rudder or second tail on the front of it, but my mind is still wrapping around a bunch of differant concepts!

Oh, and my million dollar question.. please somebody answer it if you can! praying Why do the kaleesh have blank eyes and Grievous has reptilian pupils? I sure hope those pupils are not the 'implants' he was given when cyborgized! grin

 

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Biddybot  240 posts
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Date Posted: 8/7/06 12:12pm Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" & "Lord of War" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86)
Ref. the 'blank' eyes versus the slit-pupiled eyes, I think a lot of fans have been assuming that Kaleesh have nictitating membranes or 'third eyelids' that they tend to keep drawn over their eyes during the daytime or whenever they want extra protection. When Grievous was rebuilt and cybernetic implants installed in his eyes, his membranes were deemed to be useless and removed, and he's now stuck with that permanent 'exposed' look. A lot of Earth animals have nictitating membranes so it's certainly a plausible enough explanation if you want to tie the two looks together for consistency's sake. Personally, I just go with the eyes I like best myself, those smouldering golden slit-pupiled ones, and pretend the other version was just artistic license. I just don't like the look of Grievous when he's 'blank-eyed'...it makes him look too much like a sick chicken.

 

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karabbackilla  122 posts
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Date Posted: 8/7/06 4:34pm Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" & "Lord of War" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86)
Thank you, thank you Biddybot!

I like the nictitating membrane theory myself, cause that's exactly what I think! I'm always making my kaleesh RP characters raising their 'haws' over their eyes when they are sleepy.

I've been afraid that the white zombie eyes are the normal kaleesh eyes, and the pretty crocodile ones are the implants. Hopefully thats not the case. Don't know why I care so much, its not that big of a deal, but I'm like you, and love those golden eyes! batting

 

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Halagad_Ventor  1278 posts
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Date Posted: 8/9/06 1:20pm Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" & "Lord of War" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86)
Hey karabbackilla! Welcome to the party. happy

karabbackilla posted:
Halagad, I want to say thanx for keeping the Grievous flame alive!
My pleasure. I've gotten pretty attached to el cyborgo. I'm actually pretty excited to see what direction they take Grievous in in the new animated series.

karabbackilla posted:
Just read end notes 3 and 4, and I am chomping at the bit to read 'The making of Qymaen jai Sheelal'! I can't wait to see which real life 'characters'/and or events contributed to his identity. Personally, I see a little Pancho Villa in Qymaen, but thats just me, I'm weird.
I'm very excited about that piece! I'll be writing it just as soon as I wrap up what I'm working on.

karabbackilla posted:
Anyway...do you think there will ever be a comic series or graphic novel type thing that adresses the huk/kaleesh conflict? Gods, that would be sweet, and would give us Grievous/kaleesh fans something else to sink our teeth into.
I wouldn't count it out, again, especially with Grievous in the new Clone Wars cartoon on the horizon.

karabbackilla posted:
I keep my G-love alive by drawing, and right now I am trying to figure out the logistics of a backwards swimming shoni!! I'm thinking a rudder or second tail on the front of it, but my mind is still wrapping around a bunch of differant concepts!
The short description of the shoni was an intentional mindbender, a softer version of the square-circle joke. Sometimes I'm more interested in simply spurring the imagination than in conveying a particular image, so I'd be interested to see what you come up with.

karabbackilla posted:
Oh, and my million dollar question.. please somebody answer it if you can! praying Why do the kaleesh have blank eyes and Grievous has reptilian pupils? I sure hope those pupils are not the 'implants' he was given when cyborgized! grin
The nictitating membranes is a reasonable idea, but again, I'll wait until I read the Kaleesh entry in the New Essential Guide to Alien Species before passing judgment.

Biddybot posted:
Personally, I just go with the eyes I like best myself, those smouldering golden slit-pupiled ones, and pretend the other version was just artistic license. I just don't like the look of Grievous when he's 'blank-eyed'...it makes him look too much like a sick chicken.
laugh That actually is somewhat true. Up to this point I've also chalked up those blank eyes in Visionaries largely to artistic license.

 

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kecen  1353 posts
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Date Posted: 8/10/06 12:13pm Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" & "Lord of War" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86) - Date Edited: 8/10/06 12:14pm (1 edits total) Edited By: kecen
Eh, since Grievous has Anakin parallels, can Ronderu be like Obi-wan instead of Padme? I just don't see her spewing out romance. Plus Qymaen was pretty much "apprenticed" from what I can deduct :X


This is just a cheap ploy to act all opinionated because I don't want a female character who is overtly reliant on male protection.



Well on the positive side I forgot to tell you I like the wig thing because it can cover one eye and remind me of....something XD

 

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Biddybot  240 posts
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Date Posted: 8/10/06 5:07pm Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" & "Lord of War" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86) - Date Edited: 8/10/06 5:11pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Biddybot
Ah, Halagad Ventor... To paraphrase Yoda's words to Padme in TPM, your words reference Grievous being in the upcoming new Clone Wars series ignites a warm feeling in my heart. love Still scheduled to premiere in the fall of 2008, right? And it's going to be CGI animation? I for one am glad about that. Said it before and I'll say it again...Grievous is an ideal CGI subject and I really hope that the folks who'll work on him will be given time enough to have a little fun with him. I want to see that guy MOVE this time!

Besides looking forward to his further adventures, I'm also already curious about whether Grievous will be reinterpreted yet again, whether as a character or perhaps visually...I'm always especially open to different artistic versions of a character I like since IMO that just means a better chance of seeing something that's exactly to your liking rather than just kinda neat-looking. I have a suspicion that since your own work on the character came out that he's being perceived as more of a tragic villain than the somewhat goofy, eee-vil kids' villain he was in ROTS, someone deserving of a bit more sympathy than he once was, albeit only because the reasons behind his viciousness are now more comprehensible. Goodness knows whoever wrote the character blurb for the new Titanium Series Grievous figurine as posted over on the starwars.com site must think quite highly of the guy--it's so flattering that they HAVE to be either a fanboy or fangirl and makes me hope they have a hand in writing any Grievous scenes in the scripting for the upcoming animated. For sure, somebody's gotta write in Grievous ordering the bombardment of Humbarine--that would make for a great visual! I'd also enjoy a whole episode or story arc devoted to the battle for Duro, a good chance to showcase Grievous's supposed military genius, and at least a mention of his using biological weaponry. That Loedorvian brain plague thing, for example...heh, bet it wouldn't have affected Jar Jar, though... (What? Insult who? Not me! whistling )

 

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kecen  1353 posts
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Date Posted: 8/11/06 12:27pm Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" & "Lord of War" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86)
Biddybot posted:
Ah, Halagad Ventor... To paraphrase Yoda's words to Padme in TPM, your words reference Grievous being in the upcoming new Clone Wars series ignites a warm feeling in my heart. love Still scheduled to premiere in the fall of 2008, right? And it's going to be CGI animation? I for one am glad about that. Said it before and I'll say it again...Grievous is an ideal CGI subject and I really hope that the folks who'll work on him will be given time enough to have a little fun with him. I want to see that guy MOVE this time!

Besides looking forward to his further adventures, I'm also already curious about whether Grievous will be reinterpreted yet again, whether as a character or perhaps visually...I'm always especially open to different artistic versions of a character I like since IMO that just means a better chance of seeing something that's exactly to your liking rather than just kinda neat-looking. I have a suspicion that since your own work on the character came out that he's being perceived as more of a tragic villain than the somewhat goofy, eee-vil kids' villain he was in ROTS, someone deserving of a bit more sympathy than he once was, albeit only because the reasons behind his viciousness are now more comprehensible. Goodness knows whoever wrote the character blurb for the new Titanium Series Grievous figurine as posted over on the starwars.com site must think quite highly of the guy--it's so flattering that they HAVE to be either a fanboy or fangirl and makes me hope they have a hand in writing any Grievous scenes in the scripting for the upcoming animated. For sure, somebody's gotta write in Grievous ordering the bombardment of Humbarine--that would make for a great visual! I'd also enjoy a whole episode or story arc devoted to the battle for Duro, a good chance to showcase Grievous's supposed military genius, and at least a mention of his using biological weaponry. That Loedorvian brain plague thing, for example...heh, bet it wouldn't have affected Jar Jar, though... (What? Insult who? Not me! whistling )



I like artistic license. Especially when it applies to Grievous *cough*Idrawgrievouslikeawoman*cough* grin
I too am looking forward to the new Clone Wars Series (even though one person bashed it for being anime >_>) if it has Grievous.

I also would like to see that brain plague thing. It's been mentioned but there's no book for it :/

 

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Date Posted: 8/11/06 4:28pm Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" & "Lord of War" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86)
kecen posted:
Eh, since Grievous has Anakin parallels, can Ronderu be like Obi-wan instead of Padme? I just don't see her spewing out romance. Plus Qymaen was pretty much "apprenticed" from what I can deduct :X
As a soldier by trade, I think Ronderu's background takes her pretty far from Padme, not to mention they may actually be siblings. I'd say any apprenticeship was fairly mutual between them.

kecen posted:
This is just a cheap ploy to act all opinionated because I don't want a female character who is overtly reliant on male protection.
Qymaen and Ronderu probably saved one another many times over.

kecen posted:
Well on the positive side I forgot to tell you I like the wig thing because it can cover one eye and remind me of....something XD
I'm almost afraid to ask, but I find myself pretty amused when I do.

Biddybot posted:
Ah, Halagad Ventor... To paraphrase Yoda's words to Padme in TPM, your words reference Grievous being in the upcoming new Clone Wars series ignites a warm feeling in my heart. love Still scheduled to premiere in the fall of 2008, right? And it's going to be CGI animation? I for one am glad about that. Said it before and I'll say it again...Grievous is an ideal CGI subject and I really hope that the folks who'll work on him will be given time enough to have a little fun with him. I want to see that guy MOVE this time!
You know as much as I, at this point (well, maybe I know a little more wink ). Steve Sansweet confirmed that Grievous will be in the new Clone Wars series at San Diego Comic-Con.

Biddybot posted:
Besides looking forward to his further adventures, I'm also already curious about whether Grievous will be reinterpreted yet again, whether as a character or perhaps visually...I'm always especially open to different artistic versions of a character I like since IMO that just means a better chance of seeing something that's exactly to your liking rather than just kinda neat-looking. I have a suspicion that since your own work on the character came out that he's being perceived as more of a tragic villain than the somewhat goofy, eee-vil kids' villain he was in ROTS, someone deserving of a bit more sympathy than he once was, albeit only because the reasons behind his viciousness are now more comprehensible.
I'm excited about that myself. My ultimate fantasy would be a Qymaen flashback to the Huk War, followed by Grievous ordering the Mandalorians to wipe out the Kamino cloning facilities. Ah... drooling

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Date Posted: 8/12/06 8:56am Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" & "Lord of War" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86)
No, Abel. They have to let you write those stories, remember?

 

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karabbackilla  122 posts
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Date Posted: 8/12/06 10:57am Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" & "Lord of War" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86)
Fall of 2008?? hypnotized It's not even fall of 2006 yet!I can't wait that long for the new Clone Wars series to come out! cry

If it had a Qymaen flashback in it however.... love

I'm still kind of confused about what this 'cartoon' is going to look like. CGI? Anime? Sort of like Final Fantasy or some of the stuff in Animatrix? That would be cool, and by 2008, the CGI should blow away the stuff of today.

Aye, Kecen, are you thinking of 'old one eye'??

Oh, sorry to sling spam, but here is a pic of one of my shoni concepts. Very silly, as most of my kaleesh critters are.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/37877460/

 

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Date Posted: 8/12/06 1:17pm Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" & "Lord of War" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86) - Date Edited: 8/12/06 2:37pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Rogue_Follower
thinking That's a pretty good drawing there. What'd you use for the color?

Looks kinda like a paddlefish or a sawfish.

 

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Date Posted: 8/12/06 1:54pm Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" & "Lord of War" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86)
Mavrick889 posted:
No, Abel. They have to let you write those stories, remember?
I should say my second best ultimate fantasy.

karabbackilla posted:
Aye, Kecen, are you thinking of 'old one eye'??
Oh kecen... shame_on_you

karabbackilla posted:
Oh, sorry to sling spam, but here is a pic of one of my shoni concepts. Very silly, as most of my kaleesh critters are.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/37877460/
Pretty cool! applause

 

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Date Posted: 8/12/06 2:33pm Subject: RE: "Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" & "Lord of War" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86)
karabbackilla posted:
Oh, sorry to sling spam, but here is a pic of one of my shoni concepts. Very silly, as most of my kaleesh critters are.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/37877460/


Talk about coincidence! You are on my DeviantArt friendlist already, I didn't realise it was you!
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