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TIEDefenderPilot  660 posts
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Date Posted: 5/9 2:24pm Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)
Seems small.

 

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Date Posted: 5/10 12:01am Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)
After that Galaxy Divided discussion, the ship is 3km shorter than the experts' smallest estimation.

 

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TIEDefenderPilot  660 posts
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Date Posted: 5/10 12:44am Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)
What? Experts on SW proven wrong? UNTHINKABLE!

 

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blackmyron  2497 posts
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Date Posted: 5/10 11:10am Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)
QX1138 posted:
After that Galaxy Divided discussion, the ship is 3km shorter than the experts' smallest estimation.

That was a joke referencing the endless debates over the length of the Executor. IU, those were off-the-cuff figures thrown out - the CIS certainly could've used advances from their work on the "Great Weapon" they were unaware of.

 

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Sinrebirth  18925 posts
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Date Posted: 5/11 1:30am Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II) - Date Edited: 5/11 1:36am (1 edits total) Edited By: Sinrebirth
TIEDefenderPilot posted:
Seems small.


5.5km long strikes me as quite a decent length, considering this is the Clone Wars. I don't especially want to see anything bigger than 8km, what with the SSD supposedly being among the largest ships ever built. And certainly nowhere near 19km.

A Subjugator is still a very difficult ship to destroy, nonetheless. Despite the fact both example we've seen were taken out in atypical SSD ways.

 

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Senator_Cilghal  4187 posts
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Date Posted: 5/13 3:16am Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)
what do you mean decoded?

"Sienar's TPM-era T.I.E-series"

Actually, the T.I.E. series is NOT TPM-era, since the Twin Ion Engine, as established by HNN, only came out 23-22 BBY. Earlier ships, like the Sith Infiltrator and Raith's "toys" in TPM, had certain similarities (ie, solar panels, etc.), but not the SIE-TIE engine. So the T.I.E. fighter assumedly was designed during the CW era, and cannot be the ship in that panel IF that panel is 31-ish BBY. And if the panel was always intended by the author/illustrator to be era-neutral, then making the ships NOT be TIEs, Executor, and Acclamator would actually be the retcon.

 

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blackmyron  2497 posts
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Date Posted: 5/13 10:56am Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)
They're showing the Clone Wars episodes with "additional information".

 

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Date Posted: 5/15 4:37pm Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)
The Clone Wars #6 has a new capital ship that looks rather like a tiny SSD. There's another shot of the same scene from the front, and it is indeed in front of those other ships (Munificent variants? Dreadnaught variants? Assault frigates?) Just eyeballing, the arrowhead looks to be about half their size. Here's a shot of it retreating.

Also, that center VenStar in the second pic looks kinda weird, with extra domes and panels coming off of it. Artistic interpretation, or electronic warfare Venator? thinking

 

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MercenaryAce  2766 posts
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Date Posted: 5/15 7:18pm Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)
Those CIS ships are interesting too...Mandolorian maybe?

 

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patchworkz7  3180 posts
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Date Posted: 5/15 11:12pm Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)
Havac posted:
Interesting note of the day: Luceno identifies "a pre-Empire vessel, almost four hundred meters long, and [which] might have been a precursor of Right to Rule herself" which is "lightly armed" in TUF, following Jag's squadron. Shortly thereafter a "Rothana transport" is assigned to follow Jag through. This would work as a sidelong Acclamator reference, except the length is off; this ship is much too small to be an Acclamator. But so much the better, because this works perfectly as an ID for these:

Nomad's TPM-era Acclamator-lookalike/precursors. The retcon is just sitting there begging to be made.


I mentioned this in the CW:NP's thread, but the Leveler is very much NOT stock Acclamator, as the Wook rightly points out by showing us her appearence in the comic "Bloodlines" and I don't believe Traviss has ever ID'ed the class in the brief sequence in True Colors and it is VERY MUCH not a stock Acclamator going off her kit as shown in CW:NP, as her load-out is admittedly changed to make her more of an assault ship designed to stand-off other cap ships and hit ground targets in vicious shock and awe attacks.

The Wook points out the visual ref for the ship that is supposedly the Leveler looks like an Acclamator but has a flat ventral hull and hanger bay on the belly.

 

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Vrook_Lamar  977 posts
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Date Posted: 5/16 3:01am Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)
patchworkz7 posted:
I mentioned this in the CW:NP's thread, but the Leveler is very much NOT stock Acclamator, as the Wook rightly points out by showing us her appearence in the comic "Bloodlines" and I don't believe Traviss has ever ID'ed the class in the brief sequence in True Colors and it is VERY MUCH not a stock Acclamator going off her kit as shown in CW:NP, as her load-out is admittedly changed to make her more of an assault ship designed to stand-off other cap ships and hit ground targets in vicious shock and awe attacks.

The Wook points out the visual ref for the ship that is supposedly the Leveler looks like an Acclamator but has a flat ventral hull and hanger bay on the belly.


According to SotG Saga Edition, the Acclamator II was specialised in planetary bombardment.

 

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Senator_Cilghal  4187 posts
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Date Posted: 5/16 6:24am Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)
is there a page with links to all the decoded episodes?

 

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AdmiralNick22  6913 posts
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Date Posted: 5/16 8:19am Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)
Rogue_Follower posted:
The Clone Wars #6 has a new capital ship that looks rather like a tiny SSD. There's another shot of the same scene from the front, and it is indeed in front of those other ships (Munificent variants? Dreadnaught variants? Assault frigates?) Just eyeballing, the arrowhead looks to be about half their size. Here's a shot of it retreating.

Also, that center VenStar in the second pic looks kinda weird, with extra domes and panels coming off of it. Artistic interpretation, or electronic warfare Venator? thinking


Hmm, nice catch Rogue. I don't follow those Clone Wars comics, so it is nice to see what the artists are doing.

Can't say that I am overly impressed with that artist, however. Those Banking Clan frigates/Dreadnaughts/WTF?!? ships are hideous. tongue

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Date Posted: 5/16 10:51am Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)
You definitely shouldn't pick up that comic book then, Nick.

 

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Date Posted: 5/16 3:06pm Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)
Yeah, I picked up the comic and noticed that odd ship. Even with how the art is, Venators are still, well, mostly recognizable and I think those are just the generic Muneficient class frigates that we usuallly see opposing Venators in the current Clone Wars series. But that triangle-shaped ship is odd, since it seems to be a Seperatist ship, despite how most triangular Star Destroyer-ish ships are usually Republic (unlike its a stolen design) ships. It was Grievous' command ship maybe? Since we see it retreating when Ventress calls Grievous for help (along with his entire fleet). Can't think of any triangular Seperatist ships, though I'll have to check the Clone Wars Campaign Guide later. Maybe it'll be a new design that will show up in season 2? Well, one can hope.

We also saw Hyena bombers in this issue, although they mainly look just like normal vulture fighters, but since hyenas are just slightly redesigned vultures, that's no surprise.

 

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