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Dark_Guardian  413 posts
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Date Posted: 7/19 10:05pm Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)
Other modular designs I can think of were the Modular Taskforce Cruiser and the Strikae Cruiser.

 

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Nobody145  2171 posts
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Date Posted: 7/20 12:37am Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)
On the matter of fortress worlds, Mustafar doesn't seem so much like a fortress world but more like an extremely heavily fortified bunker, also meant to be secret. We never see how well defended since in the movie and the novel, when Vader comes, he has all the proper codes so he can just waltz right on in and slaughter the Seperatist leaders. Although I think in another story someone reactivates the droid armies there, but can't remember, you can probably check the Wookiee.

Glancing at the Wookiee, their article of fortress worlds sound more like major worlds, like during the Clone Wars, probably worlds like the homeworlds of the Seperatist leaders or Sluis Van, a major shipyards. A very developed planet that's also heavily fortified. During the Imperial era, the fortress worlds were Imperial holdouts even after the New Republic controlled a good deal of the galaxy.

I expect the Legacy era Bastion would especially count as a fortress world, but Bastion was also the Imperial capital for decades. Mustafar, I think, was a bunker for the leaders, and before that was just a mining station I think.

By the way, a question for all the fleet junkies with really good memories who have been reading KotOR, relating to the latest issue. Mr. John Jackson Miller has posted his notes for the latest issue, #43, where at the end our heroes were facing what looked like a large warship, the Gladiator. JJM's notes say that we've seen the Gladiator before, but I have no idea where, so I'm wondering if anyone here knows? Oh well, I haven't reread through my old KotOR issues for a while, so maybe now is as good a time as any to comb through them.

 

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Tzizvvt78  233 posts
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Date Posted: 7/20 3:27am Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II) - Date Edited: 7/20 3:28am (1 edits total) Edited By: Tzizvvt78
According to ROTS:ICS, fortress worlds were marked by self-replicating arms factories that filled a world with refineries, assembly lines and increasing amounts of weaponry. Utapau was heading down this path, only stopped by the Republic invasion.
Mustafar, on the other hand, only had one town and a bunker for the CIS leadership. Not so much a fortress world.

Looking at the Gladiator, I have no idea where it's from. Kinda reminds me of the Star Destroyer-esque Republic ships seen in the Serroco issues, or background ships from TOTJ.

 

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Date Posted: 7/20 6:54am Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)

Heavily defended? And yet Padme's civilian yacht just came in and landed at Sep HQ!!

 

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DarthBoba  33058 posts
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Date Posted: 7/20 9:44am Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)
That's because Anakin had killed anyone paying attention by then.

 

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Dark_Guardian  413 posts
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Date Posted: 7/20 9:53am Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)
Nobody145 posted:
By the way, a question for all the fleet junkies with really good memories who have been reading KotOR, relating to the latest issue. Mr. John Jackson Miller has posted his notes for the latest issue, #43, where at the end our heroes were facing what looked like a large warship, the Gladiator. JJM's notes say that we've seen the Gladiator before, but I have no idea where, so I'm wondering if anyone here knows? Oh well, I haven't reread through my old KotOR issues for a while, so maybe now is as good a time as any to comb through them.



I only have the Wookiee pic for reference, but they look similar:

The Sith War #1

KOTOR #43

 

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blackmyron  2524 posts
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Date Posted: 7/20 10:21am Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)
The Outer Rim fortress world quote mentions worlds overrun by refineries and factories... Mustafar already was covered in refineries (considering it was a Techno Union mining operation for 300 years) and we know from Battlefront II that there were droid factories there. I'd imagine the planet was kept as a low profile to keep the bunker secret (as the Republic certainly knew the Techno Union owned it, but deemed it unimportant enough to ignore); with the Council there they probably would've gone to begin full-scale mobilization, aborted by the end of the war and death of the Council. Since there was no actual 'battle' fought for Mustafar during the Clone Wars, there's no way to know what its actual defense were, but if they really were just a bunker and a village then the Separatists have a strange idea about what 'final redoubt' means...

The Gladiator-class SD comes from the old Droids cartoon, owned by a pirate and called a "pocket Star Destroyer" in the Databank for years. The Force Unleashed Campaign Guide was the first source to give a class name and description.

 

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Vrook_Lamar  984 posts
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Date Posted: 7/20 12:28pm Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)
blackmyron posted:
The Gladiator-class SD comes from the old Droids cartoon, owned by a pirate and called a "pocket Star Destroyer" in the Databank for years. The Force Unleashed Campaign Guide was the first source to give a class name and description.


He meant the ship named Gladiator which just appeared in the latest issue of KotOR.

 

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blackmyron  2524 posts
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Date Posted: 7/20 12:32pm Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)
Well, that's what I get for skimming the thread... doh!

 

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Date Posted: 7/21 3:45am Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)

"Heavily defended" was said. What, one room was all the orbital control Mustafar had?

 

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MercenaryAce  2805 posts
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Date Posted: 7/21 8:22am Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)
Dark_Guardian posted:
Nobody145 posted:
By the way, a question for all the fleet junkies with really good memories who have been reading KotOR, relating to the latest issue. Mr. John Jackson Miller has posted his notes for the latest issue, #43, where at the end our heroes were facing what looked like a large warship, the Gladiator. JJM's notes say that we've seen the Gladiator before, but I have no idea where, so I'm wondering if anyone here knows? Oh well, I haven't reread through my old KotOR issues for a while, so maybe now is as good a time as any to comb through them.



I only have the Wookiee pic for reference, but they look similar:

The Sith War #1

KOTOR #43


Wow, I think we have a real winner here.

 

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DarthBoba  33058 posts
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Date Posted: 7/21 8:44pm Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)
ICBM control rooms in North Dakota control dozens of nuclear warheads. Combat Information Centers in USN and other Navies' ships control whole fleets. The American President can direct a complete war for the E-4 National Emergency Airborne Command Post, a converted 747.


And that's with dinky 21st-century computer technology.

 

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Brett_Bass  4105 posts
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Date Posted: 7/21 10:47pm Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)
Wow... I've been gone for a couple of summers. Glad to see that the Fleet Junkies are still alive and kicking! How is everyone? I tredged through some of the backposts, and I see that some of the hot-button issues still crop up from time to time... Some things never change, I guess.

 

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Date Posted: 7/22 12:55am Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)

Welcome back, Bass. Of course we're still going. We're geeks and there's always new ships being added.

You have a point, Boba. But a sw world deals with external trade as well as internal affairs. You'd expect Mr M to be a bit more comprehensive then one building complex control.

 

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Ris_jSarek  2555 posts
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Date Posted: 7/22 3:11am Subject: Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)
Brett_Bass posted:
Wow... I've been gone for a couple of summers. Glad to see that the Fleet Junkies are still alive and kicking! How is everyone? I tredged through some of the backposts, and I see that some of the hot-button issues still crop up from time to time... Some things never change, I guess.


Brett! Wow! Haven't seen you since I was but a neophyte here. How have you been, good sir?

 

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