CeiranHarmony posted:

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yub, but here on earth less armed forces means less war,

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KarenTraviss posted:

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CeiranHarmony posted:

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you saying he did reduce republic military slowly or had a hand in the vanishing of the Katana Fleet? or plagueis, his master.

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With Palps, any devious plan is possible. That guy worked long term. But let's look at run-down. It doesn't take long to reduce the military to a shell of what it was. The post-war Royal Navy alone has been cut from 1,000 hulls to around forty or fifty. (Let's set aside the fact that a lot of this is the move to smaller and more technically capable elements. This is the GFFA, after all.) And, in a time of relative peace, you fund other expenditure areas by stripping defence. Add a spot of the old Palpy manipulation to the mix, shift the budget a bit, and bingo, no real army, navy or air force left to speak of.

It's happening for real over here without the assistance of the Sith...

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CeiranHarmony posted:

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I meant reducing both/all armies. not just one! but one/some have to begin with it.. otherwise wars will never end.

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KarenTraviss posted:

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CeiranHarmony posted:

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you saying he did reduce republic military slowly or had a hand in the vanishing of the Katana Fleet? or plagueis, his master.

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With Palps, any devious plan is possible. That guy worked long term. But let's look at run-down. It doesn't take long to reduce the military to a shell of what it was. The post-war Royal Navy alone has been cut from 1,000 hulls to around forty or fifty. (Let's set aside the fact that a lot of this is the move to smaller and more technically capable elements. This is the GFFA, after all.) And, in a time of relative peace, you fund other expenditure areas by stripping defence. Add a spot of the old Palpy manipulation to the mix, shift the budget a bit, and bingo, no real army, navy or air force left to speak of.

It's happening for real over here without the assistance of the Sith...

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KarenTraviss posted:

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CeiranHarmony posted:

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I meant reducing both/all armies. not just one! but one/some have to begin with it.. otherwise wars will never end.

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It's a great idea. The pity is that it has never worked, because it's about politicians and chieftains and other power-hungry folk, not the poor buggers in the front line.

This isn't political theory/ dogma. I'm just looking at the evidence of human history.

And...I live in hope of seeing at least one thread get back on topic during my lifetime. Hint: Ryan and I are happy to answer your GAR feature questions as best we can.

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CeiranHarmony posted:

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I know, sadly the world is in corrupt, power hungry hands... oh God, we need one Mandalore to rule earth!

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Thrawn McEwok posted:

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Um... back to ships: what, exactly, is "Judicial"?

To me, the attempt to remove the Old Republic Navy from continuity is the absolute worst, dumbest retconn in existence. I don't mind them being marginalized by the executive/bureaucracy. I don't even mind if fleets and their bases are treated as member states rather than federal resources. I'm emphatically more than happy for the ground-troops to be "a poorly-trained police force with fancy uniforms" (Imperial Sourcebook, p. 44) with each nominal unit under the operational and financial control of the planet it's based on...

I'm happy, in other words, for Karen's boys to do the GAR thàng to their heart's content...

But we know the Republic has ships. Dreadnaughts, cruisers, gunships. Not enough, no, but what are they, if not a Navy?

*bugbear*

- The Imperial Ewok

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CeiranHarmony posted:

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thx that is reassurance enough that I will love your upcoming books. well.. I´d read and love them no matter what´s in it. the style is great, and the rest as well. making comics based on them would be cool.. but, before my mind stays offtopic, I better shut it down, it's feeding time.

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