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CeiranHarmony Registered: May '04	Date Posted: 9/18/05 11:50am Subject: RE: Guide to the Grand Army (Insider #84)
	yeah, this election is really weird... they hoped to get the politics going again, but it seems its all getting even worse, less certainty. well, it isn´t over yet. -----signature----- www.njoe.com (Govsec Author) "Less is more!" Union In Love with the Star Wars Atlas Dark Horse: Star Wars: Invasion (best idea ever!!!) My life is an Idiots Array, PURE SABBACC
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President_Sharky Registered: Jan '04	Date Posted: 9/18/05 12:09pm Subject: RE: Guide to the Grand Army (Insider #84)
	Can you spammers at least try to keep on topic? The Republic's ships were not a military navy, but an anti-pirate security force. Basically a glorified police force in space. The homegrown navies of KDY and Corellia or the corporate fleets of the Techno Union and IBC were more than a match for what the Republic Judicials made use of. In the grand scale of things, ships like CR90 corvettes or Dreadnaughts are quite insignificant when compared to the battleships of KDY. The Judicials followed the same philosophy as the Jedi Order: Keepers of the peace, not soldiers. -----signature----- Wipe out the trolls. All of them. Official Fleet Junkie
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CeiranHarmony Registered: May '04	Date Posted: 9/18/05 12:19pm Subject: RE: Guide to the Grand Army (Insider #84)
	President_Sharky posted: Can you spammers at least try to keep on topic? The Republic's ships were not a military navy, but an anti-pirate security force. Basically a glorified police force in space. The homegrown navies of KDY and Corellia or the corporate fleets of the Techno Union and IBC were more than a match for what the Republic Judicials made use of. In the grand scale of things, ships like CR90 corvettes or Dreadnaughts are quite insignificant when compared to the battleships of KDY. The Judicials followed the same philosophy as the Jedi Order: Keepers of the peace, not soldiers. the republic had no reason or a greater military. it just had to have a small fleet to ensure the safety of those worlds who can´t protect themselves, or to guard diplomats and freighters. and that´s it. like other posters already said, police forces, guard duty, national guard.. -----signature----- www.njoe.com (Govsec Author) "Less is more!" Union In Love with the Star Wars Atlas Dark Horse: Star Wars: Invasion (best idea ever!!!) My life is an Idiots Array, PURE SABBACC
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Silly_Dan Registered: Aug '05	Date Posted: 9/18/05 12:21pm Subject: RE: Guide to the Grand Army (Insider #84)
	Thrawn McEwok posted: Um... back to ships: what, exactly, is "Judicial"? The space cops, answering to some sort of Minister of Justice rather than a Minister of Defence (or Attorney General rather than a Secretary of Defense, whichever.) The closest equivalent to a Republic military seems to have been some sort of Coast Guard/UN Peacekeepers/RCMP (ok, ok, FBI) hybrid. HoloNet News retconned Terrinald Screed into an officer from the Judicial fleet, didn't it? Thrawn McEwok posted: To me, the attempt to remove the Old Republic Navy from continuity is the absolute worst, dumbest retconn in existence. I don't mind them being marginalized by the executive/bureaucracy. I don't even mind if fleets and their bases are treated as member states rather than federal resources. I'm emphatically more than happy for the ground-troops to be "a poorly-trained police force with fancy uniforms" (Imperial Sourcebook, p. 44) with each nominal unit under the operational and financial control of the planet it's based on... Poorly trained police force? Sounds like exactly the sort of space cops we're talking about. 8) Mind you, I'd also prefer it if the Imperial Navy and Army didn't spring completely out of nowhere as AOTC implies, but I suppose combining the Judicials and the Clones with local forces put under Imperial control and building up for 19 years would get the Imperial military into the state it's in during the original trilogy. I haven't read this insider article -- is that the gist of it? -----signature----- just another Canuck from the Bimkall Sector
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CeiranHarmony Registered: May '04	Date Posted: 9/18/05 12:21pm Subject: RE: Guide to the Grand Army (Insider #84)
	oh, and I forgot the best reason for the republic to not need a fleet/army: Why built one if hiring the Mandalorian Merc Army was cheaper? ^^ now a story about them hiring Mandos would rule... not only warlords and planetary leaders can hire them. -----signature----- www.njoe.com (Govsec Author) "Less is more!" Union In Love with the Star Wars Atlas Dark Horse: Star Wars: Invasion (best idea ever!!!) My life is an Idiots Array, PURE SABBACC
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Thrawn McEwok Title: TFN EU Staff Registered: May '00	Date Posted: 9/18/05 12:53pm Subject: RE: Guide to the Grand Army (Insider #84)
	P_S: The Republic's ships were not a military navy, but an anti-pirate security force. Basically a glorified police force in space. The homegrown navies of KDY and Corellia or the corporate fleets of the Techno Union and IBC were more than a match for what the Republic Judicials made use of. In the grand scale of things, ships like CR90 corvettes or Dreadnaughts are quite insignificant when compared to the battleships of KDY. The Judicials followed the same philosophy as the Jedi Order: Keepers of the peace, not soldiers. sigh And two hundred Katana-class Dreadnaughts designed to operate in synchronized formation are desigend to deal with what sort of pirates, exactly? S_D: okay... is there any evidence, though, that "Judicial" duties exclude a slightly more proactive military role? I mean, no-one else is doing it... CH: well, the Dreadnaught Cruiser is meant to be based off a Mando design... Personally, I can't help feel that if the Mandos knew their cap-ship was being knocked-off by mere police, that would be a war all in itself... And on that note - should we go elsewhere and discuss this? Sorry for dragging your thread OT with my mini-rant, Karen... - The Imperial Ewok -----signature----- A/T = OTP :===8[#]8===: Kyp/Jaina fans: stand up and be counted!
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bugstomper Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 9/18/05 12:57pm Subject: RE: Guide to the Grand Army (Insider #84)
	KarenTraviss posted: Okay, Insider #84 is landing on doormats even as we speak. Not in the UK Only americans are allowed to get the Insider as part of their fan club subscription. We have to make do with the domestic magazine. Which may or may not publish Insider articles... at some point... a bit later.. maybe... I guess the rest of the world will have to wait until some kind soul scans the article and posts it so we can join in the discussion Hey, hang on you're in the UK Karen, so how did you get your copy? Oh yes, you wrote the article Chris
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KarenTraviss Title: Author: -Har d Contact -Tri ple Zero -LOTF Registered: Mar '04	Date Posted: 9/18/05 1:00pm Subject: RE: Guide to the Grand Army (Insider #84)
	bugstomper posted: KarenTraviss posted: Okay, Insider #84 is landing on doormats even as we speak. Not in the UK Only americans are allowed to get the Insider as part of their fan club subscription. We have to make do with the domestic magazine. Which may or may not publish Insider articles... at some point... a bit later.. maybe... I guess the rest of the world will have to wait until some kind soul scans the article and posts it so we can join in the discussion Hey, hang on you're in the UK Karen, so how did you get your copy? Oh yes, you wrote the article Chris I haven't got a copy. Just the PDF file for proof-reading. And I think this thread is a new TF.N record; three pages from the first post before it gets back onto topic! -----signature----- Website: http://www.karentraviss.com Blog: http://www.livejournal.com/users/karentraviss/ "Karen, put that stormie down at once!"
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CeiranHarmony Registered: May '04	Date Posted: 9/18/05 1:03pm Subject: RE: Guide to the Grand Army (Insider #84)
	I can break the record.. shall I? hehe a pdf version, with pictures? hopes hehehe.. do the poor souls favor and accidently email this little pdf. dreams knows it will never happen and goes singing Glooory Glooory Mandaloooria... -----signature----- www.njoe.com (Govsec Author) "Less is more!" Union In Love with the Star Wars Atlas Dark Horse: Star Wars: Invasion (best idea ever!!!) My life is an Idiots Array, PURE SABBACC
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Fist_of_Mandalore Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 9/18/05 1:04pm Subject: RE: Guide to the Grand Army (Insider #84)
	CeiranHarmony posted: I can break the record.. shall I? hehe a pdf version, with pictures? hopes hehehe.. do the poor souls favor and accidently email this little pdf. dreams knows it will never happen and goes singing Glooory Glooory Mandaloooria... Please do Except I know thats not alowwed but still... -----signature----- Mortis est Gloriam
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CeiranHarmony Registered: May '04	Date Posted: 9/18/05 1:06pm Subject: RE: Guide to the Grand Army (Insider #84)
	of course we would know that it was just an accident and delete it unread so we can wait and buy insider instead cough cough -----signature----- www.njoe.com (Govsec Author) "Less is more!" Union In Love with the Star Wars Atlas Dark Horse: Star Wars: Invasion (best idea ever!!!) My life is an Idiots Array, PURE SABBACC
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Kudzu Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 9/18/05 2:30pm Subject: RE: Guide to the Grand Army (Insider #84)
	President_Sharky posted: Can you spammers at least try to keep on topic? It's not spam. It's just...off-topic. No, I'm not a hypocrite. Whoever told you that was, um, delusional. Anyhoo, any word on whether or not actual recruits from various worlds (Human or near-Human, of course - remember that little hint at Imperial xenophobia from Labyrinth of Evil?) were wearing the white to fill in the clone trooper ranks before the execution of the Separatist Council and the deactivation of the droid armies? -----signature----- Super Golden Ewok™ Recipient It should be the right of every American to go out and get wasted the day they're told that they're being sent to war. Ron Paul for U.S. President 2008
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DVader316 Registered: Feb '00	Date Posted: 9/18/05 2:37pm Subject: RE: Guide to the Grand Army (Insider #84)
	I let my subscription to Insider run out but Ive been picking them up at the newsstands ever since. Cant wait to get this one, either. Sounds like one of the better issues in some time. -----signature----- Currently Reading: Soul of the Fire by Terry Goodkind
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Rogue_Follower Title: Manager: • Lit Registered: Nov '03	Date Posted: 9/18/05 3:09pm Subject: RE: Guide to the Grand Army (Insider #84)
	Finally, a question on the article! What kind of information did you add about vehicles, specifically walkers? And did you add anything from Galactic Battlegrounds: Clone Campaigns?
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KansasNavy Registered: Mar '01	Date Posted: 9/18/05 3:09pm Subject: RE: Guide to the Grand Army (Insider #84)
	When do the Insiders go on the stands? I dont really follow them, but I think this one might be worth picking up. -----signature----- So drink one more round on me Let’s sing an old melody Hold your drinks up high, and toast the night Hold your baby strong, help me sing that old song I think that one more drink, might do me right
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