KarenTraviss posted:DarthMane2 posted:KarenTraviss posted:[quote=Corran_Fett]Not.Fair. Would you mind to post the part about Null ARCs in here or is this forbidden? I just wanna know about these badasses Seeing as it's in the public domain now... My lovely Null boys were a prototype batch before the Alpha batch. The Kaminoans tried to get clever and enhance the Jango genome, and it didn't go quite as planned. Of the initial batch of 12, only six clone foetuses survived to full term. Those six were trained by that ol' sweetheart Sergeant Kal Skirata. Two of them, N-10 (Jaing) and N-6 (Kom'rk) were the Clone Intelligence Units who located General Grievous. The lads were the best black ops men this side of the Black Stump, but completely off the wall and loyal only to Kal. Damn, I'm proud of those boys! (Mad, bad and charming to know, to paraphrase Lady Caroline Lamb.) There is more right? And we have two Clones named after Great Mandalorians.
DarthMane2 posted:KarenTraviss posted:[quote=Corran_Fett]Not.Fair. Would you mind to post the part about Null ARCs in here or is this forbidden? I just wanna know about these badasses Seeing as it's in the public domain now... My lovely Null boys were a prototype batch before the Alpha batch. The Kaminoans tried to get clever and enhance the Jango genome, and it didn't go quite as planned. Of the initial batch of 12, only six clone foetuses survived to full term. Those six were trained by that ol' sweetheart Sergeant Kal Skirata. Two of them, N-10 (Jaing) and N-6 (Kom'rk) were the Clone Intelligence Units who located General Grievous. The lads were the best black ops men this side of the Black Stump, but completely off the wall and loyal only to Kal. Damn, I'm proud of those boys! (Mad, bad and charming to know, to paraphrase Lady Caroline Lamb.)
KarenTraviss posted:[quote=Corran_Fett]Not.Fair. Would you mind to post the part about Null ARCs in here or is this forbidden? I just wanna know about these badasses
CeiranHarmony posted:As much as I love NARCs already I have to post some critique: it seems the NARCs just copied their story from the ARCs. ARCs were a special batch before the regulars. now we have the NARCs before the ARCs with the same excuse as the ARCs had compared to the regulars. I hope there is more speciality about them than just this, otherwise they, though cool, seem to be just a copy of ARCs before the ARCs were made in universe.
Qu_Klaani posted:If theres only six of then then must be used very sparingly...so I take it the events of Triple Zero are pretty damned important?
CeiranHarmony posted:then I misunderstood it maybe, I will wait and see. I just think, putting the NARCs chronologically before the ARCs seems like repeating what was done with the arcs compared to regulars chronologically, I hoped them to be made after them as special unit or something like that. that seemed odd to me. their job is ok, and I am looking forward to read about them.
KarenTraviss posted:One day, we'll see just how wrong they got it.
DarthMane2 posted:Any Mandalorian info?
KarenTraviss posted:CeiranHarmony posted:then I misunderstood it maybe, I will wait and see. I just think, putting the NARCs chronologically before the ARCs seems like repeating what was done with the arcs compared to regulars chronologically, I hoped them to be made after them as special unit or something like that. that seemed odd to me. their job is ok, and I am looking forward to read about them. Maybe this helps set it in context. Real cloning has a very high failure rate. I'm a hard SF writer: I try to stick as much to real science as I can. So the Kaminoans would have had quite a few tries at getting the clones right, however good they were, with quite a few small test batches. And, being the cocky xenophobic sushi-heads that they are, they thought they knew best. And they got it wrong. They don't like talking about their failures. Bad for business. One day, we'll see just how wrong they got it.
CeiranHarmony posted:KarenTraviss posted:CeiranHarmony posted:then I misunderstood it maybe, I will wait and see. I just think, putting the NARCs chronologically before the ARCs seems like repeating what was done with the arcs compared to regulars chronologically, I hoped them to be made after them as special unit or something like that. that seemed odd to me. their job is ok, and I am looking forward to read about them. Maybe this helps set it in context. Real cloning has a very high failure rate. I'm a hard SF writer: I try to stick as much to real science as I can. So the Kaminoans would have had quite a few tries at getting the clones right, however good they were, with quite a few small test batches. And, being the cocky xenophobic sushi-heads that they are, they thought they knew best. And they got it wrong. They don't like talking about their failures. Bad for business. One day, we'll see just how wrong they got it. right, but they had only ten years. and what seems odd and needs to be cleared up in my opinion is their schedule. NARCs came before ARCs ARCs came before regulars and RCs how long did their testing take? we know the clones to be 10 years old by the time of AOTC. that means they started growing them at the time of TPM, but the DNA sample and the contract they got around that time, or 1 year to several months after TPM. between TPM and AOTC lie 10 years. so how can they be 10years old, if there was a testing stage? I don´t see it fit together. we have in the Bounty Hunter game after TPM Jango's recruitment. months to a year post TPM then months of testing only until they need to be ready. because Boba, ARCs in some novels (Cestus Deception f.e.) tell of their age and such stuff. so their growing had to start really soon after Jango's recruitment. and then we know ARCs came before the regular clones were made, and now NARCs even before ARCs... and all, regulars AND ARCs are 10 at the time of AOTC. so where to the NARCs fit in? much testing couldn´t have taken place, too less time for that or the clones must´ve aged faster and are younger than we are told in several sources. how to clear this mess up? weeks to months are the only timeframe for the beginnings of cloning and testing. or did they immediealty start 3 types of clones at the same time? NARCs, ARCs and regulars then later when the forst batches were grown enough they tested them and decided wich ones to keep? this seems fitting better. but, if it is like we are told, that one preceeded the other, the timing gets off. explanations?
Qu_Klaani posted:"Okay, let me answer this the other way, then. I have clone warships coming up in Triple Zero. All clone crew, with a Jedi. (For ballast, probably.) So I've given them their own flotilla, at least for what I like to think of as the HMS Fearless role." Hmm, so do the Clones crew the Acclamators and other troop transports (along with some positions on warships as seen in RotS) while the rest of the fleet is gradually built up using veterans from sector navies/new recruits etc?
KarenTraviss posted:-Basilisk- posted:Wow, my Insider actually arrived on time for once in the past few years, and here's my initial reaction to the GGAR: The GGAR is awesome and the most in-depth article I've ever seen on a military facet of Star Wars. There's a lot of great new information in here, including exactly who the Null ARCs are (finally!). It's nice to have a Command Structure breakdown for the GAR instead of leaving it to speculation like the Imperial and New Republic militaries have been. The article is bursting at the seams with continuity fixes that cover most of the major issues that I can think of. I throughly enjoyed the article. With this and an expanded HoloNet news article, Insider 84 is one of the best in recent memory. Thank you! Your brown envelope of dollar bills is in the mail.
-Basilisk- posted:Wow, my Insider actually arrived on time for once in the past few years, and here's my initial reaction to the GGAR: The GGAR is awesome and the most in-depth article I've ever seen on a military facet of Star Wars. There's a lot of great new information in here, including exactly who the Null ARCs are (finally!). It's nice to have a Command Structure breakdown for the GAR instead of leaving it to speculation like the Imperial and New Republic militaries have been. The article is bursting at the seams with continuity fixes that cover most of the major issues that I can think of. I throughly enjoyed the article. With this and an expanded HoloNet news article, Insider 84 is one of the best in recent memory.