Grand_Admiral_Gotti posted:We have any pics of these "bad ass" clones??? link please
CeiranHarmony posted:then it works, thx another question: ARCs went to stasis because they were less obediant than regulars. do we have an exact date when that was? I assume it could be after Alpha02 Spar left, going Rogue. But then we have ARC clones remembering geonosis battle in some clone wars novels, but we know they came out of stasis after that. so maybe, I assume, they were deployed on Geonosis in a small number, but put in stasis afterwards because of their too harsh and inobedient behaviour? possible or is there another explanation? or is the memory in the novel just declared wrong officially?
Corran_Fett posted:They look equal to usual ARCs this one is older, but the clone to the right is N-11 Ordo:
KarenTraviss posted:We've said before that the armour is the same.
KarenTraviss posted:I recall some folks getting worried that they'd have to re-do their models. It's the man inside that counts, of course...
KarenTraviss posted:Don't get me wrong. I love ARCs. But the Nulls had a rough start and made the best of it.
Corran_Fett posted:KarenTraviss posted:We've said before that the armour is the same. Actually, I posted that befor your post, lol ... never mind... KarenTraviss posted:I recall some folks getting worried that they'd have to re-do their models. It's the man inside that counts, of course... Yes, and I guess we have a totally different man than Jango, haven't we?
Corran_Fett posted:KarenTraviss posted:Don't get me wrong. I love ARCs. But the Nulls had a rough start and made the best of it. We'll see about that... *g* But with you as an author they gotta be great
KarenTraviss posted:CeiranHarmony posted:then it works, thx another question: ARCs went to stasis because they were less obediant than regulars. do we have an exact date when that was? I assume it could be after Alpha02 Spar left, going Rogue. But then we have ARC clones remembering geonosis battle in some clone wars novels, but we know they came out of stasis after that. so maybe, I assume, they were deployed on Geonosis in a small number, but put in stasis afterwards because of their too harsh and inobedient behaviour? possible or is there another explanation? or is the memory in the novel just declared wrong officially? No, I don't have a date for that, nor do I know if they all went into stasis at once. What memory? I haven't read Cestus, remember. FWIW, the Kaminoans already had the Alphas in production when they found out they'd screwed up with the Nulls. (Don't forget that they lost 50% of the Nulls as foetuses, which would encourage them to look again at what became known as the Alpha batch.) And don't forget it's not just what you put into the genome from the start - you can alter gene expression during development. (Which, of course, happens all the time in nature. And...it's why cloned animals with identical genomes often look different. And you can bet the Kaminoans knew how to do that to order.) There's argument about when the programme started but it was a months after Jango got the gig, not a year. And you might be assuming a constant rate of development in vitro (for want of a better word, 'cos it sure as hell ain't in utero). Those sushi-heads were great at manipulating development rates, believe me.
CeiranHarmony posted:some ARC talked about remembering the geonosis mission. but they came out of stasis after geonosis, so the question when they got in stasis remains.
Ryan_Kaufman posted:As a special treat for you TFN guys, I'd like to impart a little nugget of GAR info that had to be cut from the GGAR article (because of length.) Jango trained the ARCs as he would have trained his own Mando sons. That meant many live-fire exercises, and some unavoidable casualties and deaths. The Kaminoans, bean-counters and perfectionists, still wanted a batch of exactly 100 ARCs. So, they replaced the dead and wounded ARCs with regular clone troopers. These troopers were given a "trial by fire" and forced to keep up with their unaltered brethren. As a testament to the heart of the average clone trooper, there were no washouts. When the decision came down to place the unpredictable ARC troopers in stasis, these regular-army ARCs were allowed to remain in service. They were considered more docile and easier to command than their counter-parts. They are also commonly referred to simply as "commandos." (Not to be confused with Republic Commandos.) THIS is the reason why you have some ARC troopers who served at Geonosis. And ARCs who don't fit the usual profile, for various reasons.
Kudzu posted:As an aside, does the article say whether the clone commanders trained by Alpha (Cody, Neyo, Bly, Bacara, Thire, Odd Ball, Keller, Appo, and the rest) were given his tutelage class as their final instruction before being shipped out into the Wars or just retired back to Kamino to undergo the instruction for a couple months or so?