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Quiet_Mandalorian Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 10/19/05 8:58pm Subject: RE: Making the Boards Safe for Ms. Traviss's Return: An All-Around Pledge of Good Conduct
	Master_of_Ossus posted: Quote the statements you feel require their posters to be banned. Don't play this game. If you want members banned, disciplined, or told to shape up, then have the decency to let people know who you're gunning for and confront them with the evidence against them. Don't sit back and snipe at everyone and then cry foul when people ask you to back it up: be proactive and state whose behavior was foul and why you feel that way. I don't want anyone banned. I'm just pointing out the logical flaws in FTeik's argument. -----signature----- Fey'la was right! Bring Asyr Sei'lar to justice!
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Master_of_Ossus Registered: Mar '03	Date Posted: 10/19/05 9:02pm Subject: RE: Making the Boards Safe for Ms. Traviss's Return: An All-Around Pledge of Good Conduct
	ywingempress posted: You asked for an example, I gave it. I happen to disagree with the reasons you "discounted" it. And if you didn't want me mentioning it here, you shouldn't have asked. I challenged you to find an example of a VIP being "completely ignored." I gave reasons for why that statement did not make the problem go away, ergo it was not completely ignored. If that is the only example that you have, then it failed to meet the criteria you originally established when you claimed that "VIPs answers and explanations are completely ignored." If you want to disagree with my reasons for discounting that line of reasoning, then do so in the appropriate thread--I'd love to talk about it. If you don't have another statement that's actually been ignored, though, then I'd ask you to retract your original statement on the matter at hand in this thread.
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Master_of_Ossus Registered: Mar '03	Date Posted: 10/19/05 9:03pm Subject: RE: Making the Boards Safe for Ms. Traviss's Return: An All-Around Pledge of Good Conduct
	Quiet_Mandalorian posted: I don't want anyone banned. I'm just pointing out the logical flaws in FTeik's argument. Can you quote the posters acting in a manner you feel is inappropriate, then? [Tarkin]I grow tired of asking this, so it'll be the last time. Where are the offensive posts?[/Tarkin]
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ywingempress Registered: Sep '03	Date Posted: 10/19/05 9:13pm Subject: RE: Making the Boards Safe for Ms. Traviss's Return: An All-Around Pledge of Good Conduct
	I meant "ignored" in the sense of "you missed the whole point", not that you didn't analyze the text of said quote from your own little perspective. But then again, I don't think you've really understood the point of anything I've posted, so I give up. I was hoping to end this in a civil and friendly "agree to disagree", but it seems you're not going to let me. Frankly, this is not worth my time anymore. I'm done, goodbye. -----signature----- [- Amy -] RepCom Website: http://clonecommandos.net Star Wars Journal: http://order66.livejournal.com "A well-built sniper rifle is a beautiful thing. Ours has two separate levels of zoom: up-close-and-personal and hello-you're-dead." -- Sev
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Quiet_Mandalorian Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 10/19/05 9:15pm Subject: RE: Making the Boards Safe for Ms. Traviss's Return: An All-Around Pledge of Good Conduct
	Master_of_Ossus posted: Can you quote the posters acting in a manner you feel is inappropriate, then? If you absolutely must find them, you can do so easily enough yourself by checking the previous pages of the "Alpa, the ARC Troopers and the Commandos" thread. And before you try and claim it, no, I'm not copping out, I'm simply not going to bother dredging them up. I don't want to read Qu_Klaani calling me an "idiot" (among other things) more times than is absolutely neccessary, -----signature----- Fey'la was right! Bring Asyr Sei'lar to justice!
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Master_Keralys Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Oct '03	Date Posted: 10/19/05 9:33pm Subject: RE: Making the Boards Safe for Ms. Traviss's Return: An All-Around Pledge of Good Conduct
	This has gotten completely off topic. Can we at least focus on the issue at hand of whether or not this "treaty" or "cease-fire" or whatever you want to call it is something that we can agree on? I believe that it is, from what I've discerned from your more recent posts, MoO - and I really do respect your point of view a lot; you've been very straightforward and logical, more so than I'd seen from most anyone on the debate up until the last few pages, and I appreciate that immensely. However, I think it's time to drop the whole thing and move on. Can we all just agree that (1) Karen was not flamed on these boards; (2) the atmosphere around here has been pretty charged of late, and (3) assuming that we just let it be water under the bridge (and all agree to treat each other and Karen and all other VIPs with a decent amount of respect, neither more nor less than any poster has a right to at the least) then this'll just pass and everything will be fine again? If so, then I can think we can let the argument go, decide it's not worth worrying at/about anymore, and move on with the life of the board, as has largely begun to happen anyway. Can we agree on that, here at last? - Keralys -----signature----- God made man. Man rejected God. God became the man Jesus Christ, died and rose again to life, saving man from himself. The craziest story ever told. The truest.
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Borleias Registered: Dec '03	Date Posted: 10/20/05 7:55am Subject: PGC: Quiet
	Quiet_Mandalorian posted: If you absolutely must find them, you can do so easily enough yourself by checking the previous pages of the "Alpa, the ARC Troopers and the Commandos" thread. Not good enough pal. For one thing, the Alpha thread is not small. For another thing, I'm having trouble just finding the times the people commonly lumped in as "Saxtonites" in TFN posted at all in that thread, becuase there are few of them and they don't post that much. Quiet posted: And before you try and claim it, no, I'm not copping out, I'm simply not going to bother dredging them up. I don't want to read Qu_Klaani calling me an "idiot" (among other things) more times than is absolutely neccessary, Do you think I enjoy digging in on the GGAR thread to find the posts I use to do my viewpoint? Qu_Klaani had a pair of posts on Oct 9. They might indeed have a problem, but no one would ever know whether that's the case because The2ndQuest decided to censor them. There was also a pair back in Sep 20. I don't think these have a real problem. He also had one on Sep 26, but it was mere fluff. I definitely can't see where he called you an "idiot" or anything of the sort within these. I know I never posted in that thread. Sharky posted a few times, but only after the 22nd (on the 25th). None of them were beyond even TFN norm or even talked about the 3 mil. FTeik never posted in the thread from at least September onward, and I won't be surprised if the end of that search reveals he never did so at all. Daniel-K doesn't post that much. He wasn't on the page since at least July 5th, and probably never bothered to be there at all. MCP? Nope. Not him. He doesn't post that much either. The first page on his message log alone shows he never posted on that thread since March 4th. MoO? Nope, the record shows that since coming back after a two year hiatus, he has almost concentrated entirely on the 3 million problem, and thus never went onto the Alpha thread. Uh, I'm sorry, but I'm afraid you are just going to have to vector us in. Or concede.
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Quiet_Mandalorian Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 10/20/05 8:21am Subject: RE: Making the Boards Safe for Ms. Traviss's Return: An All-Around Pledge of Good Conduct - Date Edited: 10/20/05 8:25am (2 edits total) Edited By: Quiet_Mandalorian
	Borleias posted: Not good enough pal. For one thing, the Alpha thread is not small. For another thing, I'm having trouble just finding the times the people commonly lumped in as "Saxtonites" in TFN posted at all in that thread, becuase there are few of them and they don't post that much. Right. Like Qu_Klaani has posted in there more than a few times recently. Borleias posted: Qu_Klaani had a pair of posts on Oct 9. They might indeed have a problem, but no one would ever know whether that's the case because The2ndQuest decided to censor them. There was also a pair back in Sep 20. I don't think these have a real problem. He also had one on Sep 26, but it was mere fluff. I definitely can't see where he called you an "idiot" or anything of the sort within these. As you pointed out, these posts have been removed by T2Q, thereby (conveniently, for your part) removing the hard evidence. Borleias posted: Do you think I enjoy digging in on the GGAR thread to find the posts I use to do my viewpoint? The thought had occurred to me. Borleias posted: Uh, I'm sorry, but I'm afraid you are just going to have to vector us in. Or concede. Never. -----signature----- Fey'la was right! Bring Asyr Sei'lar to justice!
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masterskywalker Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 10/20/05 8:21am Subject: RE: Making the Boards Safe for Ms. Traviss's Return: An All-Around Pledge of Good Conduct
	I have to say, this is one of the most pointless topics I've ever seen discussed on this board. To make this board safe? Just don't be a jackass. Although this is the internet we're talking about here... -----signature----- Peace to corrupt, no less than war to waste.
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Qu_Klaani Registered: Mar '04	Date Posted: 10/20/05 9:49am Subject: RE: Making the Boards Safe for Ms. Traviss's Return: An All-Around Pledge of Good Conduct - Date Edited: 10/20/05 9:50am (1 edits total) Edited By: Qu_Klaani
	I'm sick of having to post off-topic, and I know I shouldnt, but Im sick of QM baiting me, so sorry, but this is neccesary. Certainly I'll admit I called QM an idiot (cause I thought he was being an idiot) but what the hell does that have to do with this topic? Why, QM, do you have to keep dragging me back into this thread, was my complaining about your off-topic, childish mando-roleplay (which lets not forget, was a discussion of different ways in which you could kill President_Sharky) so bad that you feel the need to whine about me everytime you get the chance, dragging yet another discussion off-topic just to bait me. Oh and since when was I some kind of "saxonite" I've never even mentioned my views on his work (I am a fan, but Im not exactly some kind of follower of him), I just so happen to think the GAR having considerably less troops than the red army is stupid, cause y'know, it is, and that stupid immature role play doesnt belong in what used to be one of my favourite threads. So please QM, stop it would you, your baseless personal attacks and baiting are clearly against the rules, and if you have a problem with me instead of dragging it up yet again, tell a mod, get me banned. Of course you won't, you'll just post yet again complaining about me, and not giving proof of any kind, and risk getting another topic locked. -----signature----- "Perhaps George Lucas should have copied the methods of Peter Jackson in order to make the otherworldly corruption of Anakin's soul more obvious to those who can't fill in the lines without slow-motion close-ups and pounding heart-beat sound effects"
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Commander5052 Registered: Aug '05	Date Posted: 10/20/05 9:56am Subject: RE: Making the Boards Safe for Ms. Traviss's Return: An All-Around Pledge of Good Conduct - Date Edited: 10/20/05 9:56am (1 edits total) Edited By: Commander5052
	...I've got 20 creds saying the2ndquest will visit this thread soon. And not o give his 2 cents. -----signature----- Honored recepient of Thrawn McEwok's Bronze Thranta™ A Liberal and proud of it "Politics is simply the continuation of war by other means." --Mandalore the Ultimate
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Qu_Klaani Registered: Mar '04	Date Posted: 10/20/05 9:59am Subject: RE: Making the Boards Safe for Ms. Traviss's Return: An All-Around Pledge of Good Conduct - Date Edited: 10/20/05 10:00am (1 edits total) Edited By: Qu_Klaani
	Seems likely, and its probably for the best, this thread has been pointless from the very beggining. -----signature----- "Perhaps George Lucas should have copied the methods of Peter Jackson in order to make the otherworldly corruption of Anakin's soul more obvious to those who can't fill in the lines without slow-motion close-ups and pounding heart-beat sound effects"
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Commander5052 Registered: Aug '05	Date Posted: 10/20/05 10:02am Subject: RE: Making the Boards Safe for Ms. Traviss's Return: An All-Around Pledge of Good Conduct
	I'm not getting involved. Good-bye. leaves -----signature----- Honored recepient of Thrawn McEwok's Bronze Thranta™ A Liberal and proud of it "Politics is simply the continuation of war by other means." --Mandalore the Ultimate
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Rohniss Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 10/20/05 11:31am Subject: RE: Making the Boards Safe for Ms. Traviss's Return: An All-Around Pledge of Good Conduct
	T2Q also said that he had been deleting pages worth of posts.. so I would assume the reason noone can produce any conclusive proof one way or the other.. DP or T2Q deleted it.. Ref: the Webstrip Questy is doing. -----signature----- Rammer Jammer Yellowhammers, Give 'Em Hell, Alabama TF.N's resident Gun Nut Mejor morir a pie que vivir a rodillas.
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Valin__Kenobi Title: Author: Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Praji Registered: Mar '04	Date Posted: 10/20/05 11:51am Subject: RE: Making the Boards Safe for Ms. Traviss's Return: An All-Around Pledge of Good Conduct
	Somewhat off-topic but... Ossus, you've talked at least five times about Hyperspace members getting banned from a paid service. Your argument does not hold water: At the risk of being viewed a corporate shill/TOS lapdog/Pablo Hidalgo lickspittle/etc./whatever, Hyperspace is much more than the message boards and comment features. I'm not going to list all the vast and multitudinous types of content available--I presume you know what I'm referring to. Getting banned from one small aspect of this service is not the same as being completely screwed over, for as far as I know you can still access all the other stuff (not to mention the Insider) even if you're banned from posting. You have to do something particularly heinous to get your HS membership revoked, for example deliberately and repeatedly reposting the exclusive content on The Outside. Plus, just because a person pays for something doesn't make them immune if they misuse it. (Now before we go around that argument again, for purposes of this discussion I don't CARE if the bannings were justified or if it was an abuse of power--I'm just saying "misused" in the eyes of the designated authority in a given situation). An example I saw a TOS mod use once: just because you paid for a car doesn't get you off the hook if you speed, ram somebody, kill pedestrians, etc. -----signature----- Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Fanboy: http://blogs.starwars.com/valinkenobi Generation Bantam/KJA/WEG "Before the "Oprah effect" bookstores were like monasteries. Now it's like going to Best Buy." -- Arawn_Fenn
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