Leto II posted:This could only be regarded as a public service; but I would consent to signing my name to such a petition *ONLY* if Excellence and Quiet_Mandalorian receive extra-special consideration. Something, as they say, suitably long and lingering, that involves boiling oil, flaying, rock salt, and perhaps condemnation to a cell in solitary confinement, alone with a TV set playing seaQuest DSV episodes over and over...
FTeik posted:Excuse me? Some fans seem to have forgotten how the entire affair really happened. Not only the so-called Saxtonites had problems with the 3 million-number for the GAR. When those responsible were approached on the subject in a civil and reasonable way, what was the answer? That we were looking at an army at the beginning at the war or just the core of a much larger force?
Quiet_Mandalorian posted:FTeik posted:Excuse me? Some fans seem to have forgotten how the entire affair really happened. Not only the so-called Saxtonites had problems with the 3 million-number for the GAR. When those responsible were approached on the subject in a civil and reasonable way, what was the answer? That we were looking at an army at the beginning at the war or just the core of a much larger force?And here's where the flame-war flares up again.
FTeik posted:Flaring up a flame-war? By just pointing out, what went wrong in the first place? Sorry, but i couldn't join the "please come back, we'll be nice"-crowd. It would have been dishonest and have done nobody a favor. You can't solve a problem, if you don't adress it first.
GrandAdmiralJello posted:Oh, now this is unfair. Mitthy's post gets the top of the page and my thoughtful one gets the bottom of the last page.
Cil posted:One of the first rule's of Most message boards is not to flame other user's, especially the Mod's and The VIP's.
Personal Anecdote posted:Back in my ASVS days, they make FanFics (now this is really done purely for enjoyment, because they definitely get no money for this). Most people write one liners like "Bravo!" At most they might ask one/two questions on something they did not understand. I never saw the point of burdening the server with such posts. Instead, if I liked the story, I would try to pick it apart line by line - I try to praise too, but generally the critiques far outnumber the praises and often the critique (counting quoted text) wound up being longer than the source chapter! Sometimes even I know I'm repeating things on much the same theme. But I still continue. Sometimes people actually object for similar reasons you do, but about this I'm quite adamant. Because I actually love their work for all the critiques I'm writing and if even one out of my 100 critiques somehow made it into the story and improved it, then all that typing was worth it. Besides, it let's them know I've actually read their stuff in reasonable detail - you don't get that from "Bravo" posts. I know when I lose all hope in them ... I'd just stop reading, and they'd never get one of the "annoying" critiques from me again ... And I think all this is just as true for works that had to be paid for...
Traviss posted:Hear what the man said. Strategic targets. You should check out the kill ratios of special forces even in the real world.
KarenTraviss posted:3. And...it's Star Wars! Chaps, when you can accept that a bunch of aliens can breed humans to order and grow them to maturity in ten years...that a handful of Jedi can take on armies with magic and a fluorescent light fitting...when you don't worry about the total absence of time dilation when ships move light years between worlds...how can you argue about real numbers?
Borleias posted:They insult us. Consider the experience of poor Qu_Klanni. His post is short, concise, reasoned and polite.
Ryan_Kaufman posted:Qu_Klaani posted:Its still noway near enough, unless they deployed a hanful of clones to each planet and hoped they'd be enough to contain tens of thousands of droids. I'm sure they deployed their forces more sensibly than that. You don't try for even coverage with any army. "Ten soldiers per square foot", or something. You deploy and take worlds with sufficiently-sized forces. Key worlds hold other systems in check. There is no need to deploy forces on every single planet. Take Qiilura, for example. A squad of RCs ostensibly took that planet single-handed. But there was no need for them to traverse the entire globe to do so. Remember: key personnel in key locations, supported by covert anti-support ops.
Qu_Klaani posted:Its still noway near enough, unless they deployed a hanful of clones to each planet and hoped they'd be enough to contain tens of thousands of droids.
Quiet_Mandalorian posted:Rather odd contrast to his usual manner.
Quiet posted:Ryan here seems to have provided a reasonable explanation, to my mind anyway.
Borleias posted:Are you trying to tell me that Qu Klaani is not normally that reasoned?
Borleias posted:The last sentence is why I thought it was a little condescending. Look at it again. Get just a small feeling of talking to a child?
Borleias posted:By the way, since I was complaining more about Traviss there (and we are talking about Traviss mostly, which is why she was quoted and not just linked), what do you think of the rest of the post?