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Excellence Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 11/14/05 5:22pm Subject: RE: Mike's 20 Most Memorable EU Moments
	You don't understand how funny Crimson Empire's last page was! -----signature----- Rock-a-by baby, on the treetop, Beaming with pride, the filth they hold, But when the wind blows, my temper implodes, High above a pit, filled with sharkticons, Down will come hardcover addicts, beaming no more. ©
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PalpShouldLive Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 11/14/05 6:06pm Subject: RE: Mike's 20 Most Memorable EU Moments
	When half the humor-duo of Wraith Squadron gets injured, then kicks the bucket. Very emotional. -----signature----- The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. - Edmund Burke [URL=http://www.freeallegiance.org][img http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/8320/aubios0vz.png [/img][/URL]
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 11/14/05 6:10pm Subject: RE: Mike's 20 Most Memorable EU Moments
	I don't consider it particularly deep as a moment honestly. Though they were stupid to trust an Imperial guardsman.
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MarcusP2 Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 11/14/05 6:15pm Subject: RE: Mike's 20 Most Memorable EU Moments
	Kanos doesn't look surprised to me. I always figured it went like this: Kanos going to kill Jax. Sadeet jumps at him to stop him. Kanos turns around, Sadeet lands on his blade and dies. Kanos doesn't care and goes back to Jax. Even if it was an accident, Kir doesn't care at all. -----signature----- Darth Revan Fan Club: Technical Specialist Uncle Eddie was my favourite wrestler Gentle Giant owns my bank account.
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Jedi_Knight88 Registered: Jan '05	Date Posted: 11/14/05 11:15pm Subject: RE: Mike's 20 Most Memorable EU Moments
	The end of 'Shadow Hunter' was excellent, and also Medstar I: Battle Surgeons when Zan was killed.. That was pretty sad. -----signature----- http://www.mysticapple.blogspot.com My Gaming Blog: http://www.technobabblement.blogspot.com
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CooperTFN Title: TF.n EU Staff Emeritus Registered: Jul '99	Date Posted: 11/14/05 11:22pm Subject: RE: Mike's 20 Most Memorable EU Moments
	Flargg, I'm with you on the worldship/amphistaff battle; that's another one I wanted to include. I remember reading it thinking "this is the most hardcore thing ever", only to be proven wrong by Ganner a little later. -----signature----- Mike Cooper's Star Wars Blog http://blogs.starwars.com/coopertfn "Your tongues can't repel flavor of that magnitude!" "NAKED TWI'LEK WITH LIGHTSABER = MONEY" - Ris_jSarek "I bid you all Dark Greetings!"
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Peacekeeper Registered: Jan '01	Date Posted: 11/15/05 12:15am Subject: RE: Mike's 20 Most Memorable EU Moments
	I have a few, 1) Ulic Qel-Droma's redemption, one of the most touching redemptions ever! 2) The orbital bombardment in Enemy Lines 1, that was totally unexpected and super cool. The vong never saw that comming & neither did i. 3) The final fight in BFC, one of the few times in EU(back then) when the NR actually went into a large scale fleet confrontation. 4) Starfighters of Adumar, best X-Wing book, enough said. -----signature----- Fear leads to hate , hate leads to anger , anger leads to suffering-Yoda And suffering is listening to old idiots like u-Anakin skywalker First exchange between Yoda & Anakin Skywalker
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Excellence Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 11/15/05 3:06am Subject: RE: Mike's 20 Most Memorable EU Moments
	Your 4th brings out the eloquence in me. -----signature----- Rock-a-by baby, on the treetop, Beaming with pride, the filth they hold, But when the wind blows, my temper implodes, High above a pit, filled with sharkticons, Down will come hardcover addicts, beaming no more. ©
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Rogue1-and-a-half Title: Manager: Amphitheatre Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 11/15/05 2:37pm Subject: RE: Mike's 20 Most Memorable EU Moments
	14. He had the heart of a Jedi – Redemption, Kevin J. Anderson/Dario Carrasco After the disappointing Ulic/Exar Kun arc that Anderson had written, complete with its idiotic ending, this book came along and somehow managed to blow everything away. In point of fact, I recommend reading this book without reading the books that come before it. The characters are so archetypal that you don’t need the previous books really to understand this one. Redemption is one of the most personally evocative words in the English language and more great art has been dedicated to the search for redemption than almost any other concept. Since we are human and flawed, redemption, either from an outside source, an inner source or a combination of the two, is the only thing we can hope in. And in this book Ulic Qel-Droma seeks for redemption and the characters from his past swirl around him. The tragic death that closes the book is heartbreaking enough by itself. Finally able to forgive himself, finally able to atone by training Vima, finally able to face his past in Sylvar and Nomi, Ulic Qel-Droma is brutally shot down from behind by a fool. It’s a tragic and staggering end to such an epic figure. But than, as he dies, he fades into the Force. All that stuff about the secret of immortality, yeah, yeah, forget that for a minute. Ulic Qel-Droma fades into the Force as only the great Jedi masters do. It’s the perfect punch to the ancient Jedi and their idiotic, rigid mindset. Their monolithic structure and exclusionary hierarchy just got blown away: a man expelled from the order, a man who is permanently tainted and scarred by the Dark Side, a man who cannot even feel the Force has the heart of a Jedi. And if the leaders of the Jedi order could understand that, you start to think, maybe the Purge would never have happened. Maybe it’s less about feeling the Force, maybe it’s less about using the Force. Maybe it’s more about knowing the Force. And maybe a man who tasted the depths of the Dark Side and has lost the presence of the Light can understand the Force better than the ivory tower council and the mindless drone Knights. Just maybe the Force is reachable from a personal level. Maybe you can break the rules of the established order and still touch the Force. This is essentially mysticism to the Jedi Order’s religion. And I love it. For all the philosophical complexity, it is still a profoundly emotional moment and the only comic book moment to make me cry. It’s a beautiful moment of, as the title indicates, redemption, salvation. I get cold chills right now, just writing about it. A moment of real philosophical complexity that is also a profoundly and deeply emotionally satisfyingly moment. Can we ask for more? Redemption is possible. Remember that. -----signature----- Don't be a fool, don't be blind Heart of mine If you can't do the time, don't do the crime Heart of mine
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Excellence Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 11/16/05 3:54am Subject: RE: Mike's 20 Most Memorable EU Moments
	I don't understand why so many people get emotional over Qel-Droma's demise. I was more pleased that the catwoman got four changes of clothes where as Aayla and modern characters were the same blsted outfits for half a decade of comic publishing. -----signature----- Rock-a-by baby, on the treetop, Beaming with pride, the filth they hold, But when the wind blows, my temper implodes, High above a pit, filled with sharkticons, Down will come hardcover addicts, beaming no more. ©
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Kudzu Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 11/16/05 7:15am Subject: RE: Mike's 20 Most Memorable EU Moments
	Excellence posted: I don't understand why so many people get emotional over Qel-Droma's demise. I was more pleased that the catwoman got four changes of clothes where as Aayla and modern characters were the same blsted outfits for half a decade of comic publishing. You would be, wouldn't you? -----signature----- Super Golden Ewok™ Recipient It should be the right of every American to go out and get wasted the day they're told that they're being sent to war. Ron Paul for U.S. President 2008
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Master_Keralys Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Oct '03	Date Posted: 11/16/05 7:54am Subject: RE: Mike's 20 Most Memorable EU Moments
	Ex, this is just a question of curiousity, not antagonism - but do you ever get attached to a character, or are you always so analytical that you truly get more appreciation out of the technical details of a particular work than out of the work itself? I know I've mentioned my popcorn/mashed potatoes/meat trichotomy before - and you know what? I don't analyze the popcorn. There's not much there to analyze. It's not worth being critical of; you take it for what it's worth. And I also don't spend too much time worrying about the technicalities of mashed potatoes - again, there's just not enough there to make it worth my time, though occasionally you find something in the mix that has enough substance to warrant critical commentary. Honestly, I just save my efforts for the meat, where it truly counts. Comics often go for consistency, especially when they're trying to appeal to a mass audience (as DH was and is, especially with the Clone Wars stuff) - you make it easy to recognize Aayla Secura and Quinlan Vos and the other characters you want your readership to be interested, so you make their clothing consistent along with their behavior. 'Sides, I don't hear you complaining about Obi-Wan's ever-constant garb... - Keralys -----signature----- God made man. Man rejected God. God became the man Jesus Christ, died and rose again to life, saving man from himself. The craziest story ever told. The truest.
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Rogue1-and-a-half Title: Manager: Amphitheatre Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 11/16/05 2:32pm Subject: RE: Mike's 20 Most Memorable EU Moments
	13. Thank you . . . Senator Palpatine – Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter, Michael Reaves It’s the twist we should have seen coming. I mean, heck, we all knew how the book would end. That didn’t hurt the book really, because, even though we knew they couldn’t, we were pulling for the mains to get away and survive. And Maul just goes through the book like a fire through a cane field. At the climax, a grief stricken Lorn Pavan sneaks up behind Maul and the two have a moment of heart stopping suspense. Pavan stuns Maul, but Maul shakes it off and wounds Pavan, who manages to flee, Maul just behind him. And then as we’re on the edge of our seat, Pavan finds safety with a Senator who happens to be in the area. He entrusts the data about the Neimodian blockade to aforementioned Senator, content in the knowledge that he has frustrated the plans of the Sith and that soon the Jedi and the government will know that the Sith have returned. And then he drops that line. “Thank you . . . Senator Palpatine.” And we, the readers, knowing things that Lorn Pavan will never know suddenly feel our stomachs drop into our boots. What a masterful and subtle way to wrap up a book like this. No great final action sequence, no climactic operatic revelation. Just “Thank you . . . Senator Palpatine.” The book goes a few more pages, but it’s that line that is the climax. The rest, including Pavan’s death, is just dénouement. One of the all time great surprise endings. -----signature----- Don't be a fool, don't be blind Heart of mine If you can't do the time, don't do the crime Heart of mine
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Excellence Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 11/16/05 2:57pm Subject: RE: Mike's 20 Most Memorable EU Moments - Date Edited: 11/16/05 3:01pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Excellence
	Actually, yes, Keralys. Ever read Deadhouse Gates? For 930 pages I watched outnumbered, starving soldiers protect 50,000 unruly refugees and supercilous nobles, across burning deserts and hostile pursuit . . . into a traumatic finale that was very emotional. One book later, after nearly 1100 pages, Erikson shocks you with who he kills. There are benefits with not getting too attached with characters. Besides, they're only fictious. Katarn dies tomorrow, I'll just shrug, remembering my lopsided smile as he ordered a Corellian ale---in a clean glass from a Chissy bartender I later killed for fun. I'm partial to Martin's crew, Emisaries to Malastare's Dark Woman, and Dracmus. Amazement, as she would say. And Ossilege's scene-ending liners rivaled Stackpole's. -----signature----- Rock-a-by baby, on the treetop, Beaming with pride, the filth they hold, But when the wind blows, my temper implodes, High above a pit, filled with sharkticons, Down will come hardcover addicts, beaming no more. ©
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CooperTFN Title: TF.n EU Staff Emeritus Registered: Jul '99	Date Posted: 11/16/05 4:22pm Subject: RE: Mike's 20 Most Memorable EU Moments
	You know, I worked my ass off flipping through stuff for those quotes, and now you're just leeching them all off me. -----signature----- Mike Cooper's Star Wars Blog http://blogs.starwars.com/coopertfn "Your tongues can't repel flavor of that magnitude!" "NAKED TWI'LEK WITH LIGHTSABER = MONEY" - Ris_jSarek "I bid you all Dark Greetings!"
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