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GavinStrife Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 2/10/06 11:39pm Subject: Sheer curiosity- any count on ships present during the Battle of Endor? - Date Edited: 2/12/06 4:27pm (1 edits total) Edited By: The2ndQuest
	Guess the title says it all... I know the Alliance was vastly outnumbered, but is there any official count of ships present on either side of the battle, fighters and all? Or a casualty count too, for that matter... May not be the place for this, but I figure that since they don't say in the movie, it must be in the literature -----signature----- Alive and geeking since 1984.
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Adm_Thrawn Registered: Dec '04	Date Posted: 2/10/06 11:43pm Subject: RE: Sheer curiosity- any count on ships present during the Battle of Endor? - Date Edited: 2/10/06 11:43pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Adm_Thrawn
	Empire - Approx. 40 Imperial-class Star Destroyers, over a thousand fighters, the Executor, and, of course, the Death Star II. Alliance - Approx. 25 Mon Cal cruisers, 10 Nebulon-B frigates, about a hundred GR-75 transports, approx. 500 fighters, and about a hundred Blockade Runners. -----signature----- Delta Co., 080111 SOI/ITB Class 2-08 03 Killa Semper Fidelis
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000 Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 2/10/06 11:48pm Subject: RE: Sheer curiosity- any count on ships present during the Battle of Endor?
	No official number. Like Adm Thrawn said, 40+ ISDs, the Ex, 25-30+ MC cruisers (including at least two and as many as six 3+ km Home One types), thousands of fighters, and however many smaller capships. There's been alot of fan work done on this, but no consensus yet. This thread might help you out.
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Adm_Thrawn Registered: Dec '04	Date Posted: 2/10/06 11:54pm Subject: RE: Sheer curiosity- any count on ships present during the Battle of Endor?
	Yeah, all of those numbers are approximations and estimates taken from The Truce at Bakura Sourcebook. -----signature----- Delta Co., 080111 SOI/ITB Class 2-08 03 Killa Semper Fidelis
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000 Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 2/10/06 11:58pm Subject: RE: Sheer curiosity- any count on ships present during the Battle of Endor?
	Gotta get my hands on that one. That's like the fifth reference to it I've seen in the past week.
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Carnage04 Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 2/11/06 2:32am Subject: RE: Sheer curiosity- any count on ships present during the Battle of Endor?
	What are GR-75 transports? The transports we see leaving Hoth? Are those even the slightest bit usefull in combat aside fromm canon fodder? Carnage -----signature----- Carnage I Finally decided to use a signature after 3500 posts! 3500 posts * 7 Characters = 24500 keystrokes wasted
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Rogue_Thunder Title: FanForce CR, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Registered: Jan '03	Date Posted: 2/11/06 4:46am Subject: RE: Sheer curiosity- any count on ships present during the Battle of Endor?
	Trooop carriers? I think the SotG sourcebook by Wizards says they come lightly armed and can probably be modified with more armaments to serve as support vessels. -----signature----- "You look so tiny down there... like a little mean pepper shaker" - Palpatine to Darth Vader "I gotta say Boba this is one beauty of a ship... not crazy about the name though" - Lando to Boba Fett
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Excellence Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 2/11/06 4:51am Subject: RE: Sheer curiosity- any count on ships present during the Battle of Endor?
	40 Impstars? You've got to be kidding. Where did that come from? -----signature----- Rock-a-by baby, on the treetop, Beaming with pride, the filth they hold, But when the wind blows, my temper implodes, High above a pit, filled with sharkticons, Down will come hardcover addicts, beaming no more. ©
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AdmiralNick22 Registered: May '03	Date Posted: 2/11/06 7:00am Subject: RE: Sheer curiosity- any count on ships present during the Battle of Endor?
	I have the Truce at Bakura sourcebook and no where does to mention 100 corvettes or stuff like that. The only good counts we have is for the Imperial-class Star Destroyers and the Mon Calamari cruisers. Everything else is conjecture. --Adm. Nick -----signature----- Fleet Junkie Founding Father Official Greatest Admiral Ackbar Fan "A peaceful Galactic Alliance is the strongest pillar of a peaceful galaxy." - Luke Skywalker "I will surrender, Admiral, when I can no longer fight!" - Admiral Gar Stazi A New Hope
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GavinStrife Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 2/11/06 8:09am Subject: RE: Sheer curiosity- any count on ships present during the Battle of Endor?
	... so yeah, in the movie it looks like 3-4 Mon Cals, about 5 Corellian Corvettes... couple of medium frigates lol... I can see there being maybe 20+ ImpStars... but thats why I was asking- what you see and what is there isn't always the same... The thing that always got me is you see MAYBE 3 squadrons of Alliance fighters, but there HAD to be more than that... and I know roughly how many fighters an ImpStar can carry, so that kinda threw me. -----signature----- Alive and geeking since 1984.
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Kish Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 2/11/06 4:09pm Subject: RE: Sheer curiosity- any count on ships present during the Battle of Endor?
	So how much of each respective fleet was at the Battle of Endor? I take it the rebellion sent in all of the forces that it could since this was seen as it's last chance to defeat the Empire. The Emperor on the other hand seemed over confident of his success, and might have underestemiated how many fleet resources he would need. 40 Star Destroyers just seems like not a whole lot to garrison an entire galaxy.
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Carnage04 Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 2/11/06 5:44pm Subject: RE: Sheer curiosity- any count on ships present during the Battle of Endor?
	My first impression is that the Rebel Alliance would have sent every available ship into the battle, but thinking back, they didn't actually EXPECT a battle. It was supposed to be more of a covert mission. In the big scheme of things, Imperial intelligence would definately catch on if EVERY REBEL SHIP WAS CONGREGATING IN ONE PLACE. So much for the surprise attack. I wouldn't doubt if the alliance sent a sizeable fleet somewhere else to draw imperial attention. That being said, I wouldn't doubt if the imperials scattered a bit as not to tip off the fact that they know about the Rebel's plan. Carnage -----signature----- Carnage I Finally decided to use a signature after 3500 posts! 3500 posts * 7 Characters = 24500 keystrokes wasted
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Sinrebirth Title: Sith Emperor of the SWC Registered: Nov '04	Date Posted: 2/11/06 6:13pm Subject: RE: Sheer curiosity- any count on ships present during the Battle of Endor?
	Well, the Rebel fleet was also amassed around Mon Calamari, so shrug. Well, I can name almost 30 ImpStars there, so 40+ isn't that far off. -----signature----- Darth Insipid Proud Fan of the Tragedy of Jacen Solo Missing Chapters of Invincible; Teaser of Chapter 9.5 is up! Wes vs Tarfang, Gavin and the Coup, Luke and Jacen, and much more! http://boards.theforce.net/beyond_the_saga/b10477/28933751/p3/?70
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Excellence Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 2/11/06 6:17pm Subject: RE: Sheer curiosity- any count on ships present during the Battle of Endor?
	Can I see this 30 Star Destroyer list of your, please Sinrebirth? -----signature----- Rock-a-by baby, on the treetop, Beaming with pride, the filth they hold, But when the wind blows, my temper implodes, High above a pit, filled with sharkticons, Down will come hardcover addicts, beaming no more. ©
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000 Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 2/11/06 6:27pm Subject: RE: Sheer curiosity- any count on ships present during the Battle of Endor?
	Kish posted: 40 Star Destroyers just seems like not a whole lot to garrison an entire galaxy. It's not. The fleet at Endor was IIRC composed of elements of Vader's Death Squadron and the Moddell sector fleet. The entire galaxy had 25,000 ISDs at the very least. Plus, of course, millions of smaller capships and billions/trillions of fighters. And likely a couple thousand larger capships.
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Sinrebirth Title: Sith Emperor of the SWC Registered: Nov '04	Date Posted: 2/11/06 6:29pm Subject: RE: Sheer curiosity- any count on ships present during the Battle of Endor?
	Ugh. Yucky. From memory Judicator, Chimaera, Relentless, Devastator, Conquest, Stalker, Avenger, Vengeance II, Eleemonsary, The other 3 Grand Admiral ships - I always forget them Indictor, Imputator, Pulsar, Accuser, Adjucator, Adjudicator, Virulence, Vehement, Implacable, Retaliator, Redoubtable, Harrsk's Nameless One, Thunderflare, Personal Conjecture With Judicator and Chimaera and Relentless, most probably includes Nemesis, Bellicose, Inexorable - noted as serving with Chimaera and Judicator pre-Endor, during X-wing Alliance. 25, at least, 28, at most. And then one Comm ship, one Executor, one VSD - Desolator (?) - one Tector. Thats 29 at least, 32 at best. -----signature----- Darth Insipid Proud Fan of the Tragedy of Jacen Solo Missing Chapters of Invincible; Teaser of Chapter 9.5 is up! Wes vs Tarfang, Gavin and the Coup, Luke and Jacen, and much more! http://boards.theforce.net/beyond_the_saga/b10477/28933751/p3/?70
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