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HedecGa Registered: Apr '06	Date Posted: 6/8/07 11:54am Subject: RE: "Vader's Legacy": by Abel & Joe (SWI #?) - Date Edited: 6/8/07 11:57am (2 edits total) Edited By: HedecGa
	^One thing doesn't have anything to do with the other. The Insider doesn't "suck" because there's no more movies coming out or because the TV series will or will not be successful. The Insider falters because it only lives in yesteryear or in fan activities rather than focusing on the plethora of EU material that's already out. The comics, novels, video games have been going strong for a long time and, I'm sure, will continue to do so. And I'm not even talking about reporting on these things. I think most of us here just want more of the same. More original fiction, maybe a comic strip, and more articles that help flesh out the EU. Bridge some retcon-worthy gaps, answer long debated speculation about continuity indescrepencies. It's not a matter of them not having enough to report on, it's a matter of them not reporting on the "right" things. But, then again, that's just what I'm looking for. I hardly speak for the whole of the SW community. -----signature----- "The Coming Evil, Book One: The Strange Man" available NOW at http://www.thecomingevil.blogspot.com Author of the Dusty Duck databank entry - The 71st "Greatest Thing About Star Wars...Ever!" - SW Insider 100 Co-author of the Silya Shessaun databank
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patchworkz7 Registered: Mar '04	Date Posted: 6/8/07 12:00pm Subject: RE: "Vader's Legacy": by Abel & Joe (SWI #?)
	vong333 posted: And you guys say that star wars isn't dieing? I see the same thing happen like in in 1985. Everybody here keeps thinking that the animation and the live action is going to do Titanic, Lord of the Rings Two Towers like numbers on tv. Well it ain't. Well, considering that I've just seen the numbers for the DH comics and they're VERY RESPECTABLE for monthly comics (and this isn't counting the TPB's and neglects the fact that these are only direct market numbers), and the fact that we've had several NYT best-selling novels come out of Del Rey recently, with SACRIFICE already going back to print and a sure-thing for the NYT Bestseller list, and the merch is still flowing just fine, and we have TWO television projects on the way, as well as a massive multi-media project for the next gen consoles that's generating lots of buzz... ...you've got a weird take on what "death" means to a franchise. There's a massive difference between some problems with the official magazine and a problem with the franchise. Considering how quickly Titan had the contract dumped on them I'm hoping that this is just a period of adjustment and I'm willing to give them a few months to pull up. -----signature----- Original Fiction & essays "Does God Limp?" in HOUSE UNAUTHORIZED http://www.smartpopbooks.com/allbooks/2007.html#house Now in German and Polish Editions! James A Gilmer
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 7/20/07 6:21pm Subject: RE: "Vader's Legacy": by Abel & Joe (SWI #?)
	Just checking. Two corpses, everything's fine. :-)
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Halagad_Ventor Title: - Star Wars Author - SWRPG Designer Registered: Jul '01	Date Posted: 10/8/07 11:32pm Subject: RE: "Vader's Legacy": by Abel & Joe (SWI #?)
	rhonderoo posted: The cover even has Vader and "LEGACY" written in huge letters across the middle of it. Quite amusing, yes. A quick update on Vader's Legacy folks: it remains on hold. Bummer. However, some of the elements originally intended for VL have found a home in a new project ... coming very soon. Very soon. Abel -----signature----- Abel G. Peña: http://www.abelgpena.com Star Wars Blog: http://blogs.starwars.com/abelgpena Facebook Profile: http://www.facebook.com/abelgpena Second Prophet of the Church of Waru Recipient of a monstrosity known as a Mandalorian Ewok™
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TalonCard Title: •Author: Slave Pits of Lorrd •TFN EU Staff Registered: Jan '01	Date Posted: 10/9/07 1:01am Subject: RE: "Vader's Legacy": by Abel & Joe (SWI #?)
	And that would be...? C'mon, everybody hates a tease... TC -----signature----- Death in the Slave Pits: http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/fiction/feature20090531/index.html GODV Guide: www.myuselessknowledge.com/swfa/main.html Hyperspace Blog: http://blogs.starwars.com/taloncard
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TheEmpireStrikes Registered: Jun '04	Date Posted: 10/9/07 1:56am Subject: RE: "Vader's Legacy": by Abel & Joe (SWI #?)
	Halagad_Ventor posted: However, some of the elements originally intended for VL have found a home in a new project ... coming very soon. Let us hope fervently that this isn't itself put on hold. -----signature----- I'm not going to fall to the Dark Side... I'm not going to fall to the Dark Side... Look, some Jawa's I can torture! Whoops!
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Ris_jSarek Registered: Feb '05	Date Posted: 10/9/07 2:12am Subject: RE: "Vader's Legacy": by Abel & Joe (SWI #?) - Date Edited: 10/9/07 2:41am (1 edits total) Edited By: Ris_jSarek
	TalonCard posted: And that would be...? C'mon, everybody hates a tease... Given he mentions in the other thread that his Dawn of Defiance adventure will have Domain of Evil references in it, I think he's probably referring to that. EDIT: Given recent mentions of forthcoming announcements in yet another thread, my prior assessment is likely in need of revision. -----signature----- http://churchofbrad.com/jsarek/ Proud recipient of Halagad_Ventor's MOO (Master of Obscurity) Award, Brett_Bass's Spiffy Crown™, and Thrawn McEwok's "Ohh...? Interesting..." Award™
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Ulicus Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 10/9/07 2:26am Subject: RE: "Vader's Legacy": by Abel & Joe (SWI #?)
	Is Tao gone now? -----signature----- This is an imaginary story... aren't they all supposed to fit together, though? An animated cartoon about Obi-Wan and Padawan Anakin would have made more sense. Recipient of Golden Ewok™ and Golden EwokTrooper™
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Halagad_Ventor Title: - Star Wars Author - SWRPG Designer Registered: Jul '01	Date Posted: 10/9/07 2:54am Subject: RE: "Vader's Legacy": by Abel & Joe (SWI #?)
	TalonCard posted: And that would be...? C'mon, everybody hates a tease... It's true. But I'm more Rizzo than Sandra Dee ... if I'm giving the signs, it shouldn't be long. That said, you might want to take a look at the Insider 96 thread. (Yes, I write my thread posts the same way I do my Star Wars work: pretentious and suggestive with a hint of self-effacement). TheEmpireStrikes posted: Let us hope fervently that this isn't itself put on hold. I generally don't say anything unless something's in the bag. In fact, that should say more about the unforeseen situation surrounding Vader's Legacy than about the reliability of the information I post here. VL got pulled out of the bag at the 11th hour, so to speak. Now he's like, "Dude, where's my bag? I totally had a bag!" But you know, other much larger projects have had it worse, Essential Guide to Episode I and the Darth Plagueis book just to name two. Ris_jSarek posted: Given he mentions in the other thread that his Dawn of Defiance adventure will have Domain of Evil references in it, I think he's probably referring to that. That's a bonus, actually. Ulicus posted: Is Tao gone now? Nothing against him personally. He's taking five with most of Vader's other "apprentices." Abel -----signature----- Abel G. Peña: http://www.abelgpena.com Star Wars Blog: http://blogs.starwars.com/abelgpena Facebook Profile: http://www.facebook.com/abelgpena Second Prophet of the Church of Waru Recipient of a monstrosity known as a Mandalorian Ewok™
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Ulicus Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 10/9/07 3:06am Subject: RE: "Vader's Legacy": by Abel & Joe (SWI #?)
	Halagad_Ventor posted: Nothing against him personally. He's taking five with most of Vader's other "apprentices." So the story where Tao dies and Vader gets OMGZ!OWNED by a tusken raider isn't canon? I've nothing against Tao, well not really, it's the story in which he appears - and Vader's less-than-evil attitude - that rubs me up the wrong way. Call me stupid shrug -----signature----- This is an imaginary story... aren't they all supposed to fit together, though? An animated cartoon about Obi-Wan and Padawan Anakin would have made more sense. Recipient of Golden Ewok™ and Golden EwokTrooper™
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QuentinGeorge Registered: Dec '03	Date Posted: 10/9/07 4:42am Subject: RE: "Vader's Legacy": by Abel & Joe (SWI #?)
	Tao's canonicity is not affected by this delay, since it wasn't Abel's article that made him canon. -----signature----- Yar
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Ulicus Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 10/9/07 5:28am Subject: RE: "Vader's Legacy": by Abel & Joe (SWI #?) - Date Edited: 10/9/07 5:32am (1 edits total) Edited By: Ulicus
	QuentinGeorge posted: Tao's canonicity is not affected by this delay, since it wasn't Abel's article that made him canon. Really? What did? Just ignore the sound of swords sharpening, they're uh... for decorative puposes Seriously though, I think there needs to be some serious explanation as to why Vader was so utterly overwhelmed by a Force sensitive tusken raider. The Tusken Raider being A'Sharad is a very good idea and helps justify it - but I don't think it works on its own... since Vader, at this point, shouldn't be having any trouble from the future Krayt. (Now, flow walk Krayt back from Legacy and I'm sure things would be very different ) Maybe the Emperor put some super poison in his tubes of food as punishment or something (meh, could happen), and Vader's not only fighting off a maddened A'Sharad Hett, but also the poison's influence. I mean, that's a pretty rubbish idea, but it gets my point across. -----signature----- This is an imaginary story... aren't they all supposed to fit together, though? An animated cartoon about Obi-Wan and Padawan Anakin would have made more sense. Recipient of Golden Ewok™ and Golden EwokTrooper™
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Kaje Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 10/9/07 6:02am Subject: RE: "Vader's Legacy": by Abel & Joe (SWI #?)
	IIRC, the Tao story, while initially published with the Infinities logo, was republished in the UK without it, making it canon. -----signature----- "Alderaan shot first." - Dunc T'racen
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 10/9/07 9:06am Subject: RE: "Vader's Legacy": by Abel & Joe (SWI #?)
	The Tusken Raider being A'Sharad is a very good idea and helps justify it - but I don't think it works on its own... since Vader, at this point, shouldn't be having any trouble from the future Krayt. (Now, flow walk Krayt back from Legacy and I'm sure things would be very different devil ) Maybe the Emperor put some super poison in his tubes of food as punishment or something (meh, could happen), and Vader's not only fighting off a maddened A'Sharad Hett, but also the poison's influence. That depends on whether we're to assume A'Sharad Hett is just below Obi Wan in power or not.
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Ulicus Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 10/9/07 10:38am Subject: RE: "Vader's Legacy": by Abel & Joe (SWI #?) - Date Edited: 10/9/07 10:39am (1 edits total) Edited By: Ulicus
	Charlemagne19 posted: The Tusken Raider being A'Sharad is a very good idea and helps justify it - but I don't think it works on its own... since Vader, at this point, shouldn't be having any trouble from the future Krayt. (Now, flow walk Krayt back from Legacy and I'm sure things would be very different devil ) Maybe the Emperor put some super poison in his tubes of food as punishment or something (meh, could happen), and Vader's not only fighting off a maddened A'Sharad Hett, but also the poison's influence. That depends on whether we're to assume A'Sharad Hett is just below Obi Wan in power or not. ANH Darth Vader > ANH Obi-Wan Kenobi Though perhaps not to as great an extent as Vader himself thinks. By the time ANH rolls around, Obi-Wan should be a LOT more powerful/skilled than A'Sharad (he's learning more and more about the Living Force from Qui-Gon after all) - even if he was only a little stronger than him during the RotS days... so Vader should be able to take on A'Sharad no problem. I mean, by ANH, Vader isn't the "Sith Lord in Darth name only" that he was in RotS. He's a fully fledged Dark Lord of the Sith who's, roughly speaking, 80% of the near demi-deity Darth Sidious. No one else that he has a real interest in killing should hold a candle to him. -----signature----- This is an imaginary story... aren't they all supposed to fit together, though? An animated cartoon about Obi-Wan and Padawan Anakin would have made more sense. Recipient of Golden Ewok™ and Golden EwokTrooper™
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