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Rogue_Follower Title: Manager: • Lit Registered: Nov '03	Date Posted: 4/3/06 6:11am Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound) - Date Edited: 4/3/06 6:14am (1 edits total) Edited By: Rogue_Follower
	[i]>>>The answer is there in the title of the blog entry.
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DarthBoba Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 4/3/06 6:53am Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound)
	Excellence posted: What was the issue again? hear hear. There's more important things to think about, like how characters go to the bathroom on the Falcon. -----signature----- Only a Prime can defeat Vader and his Emperor.
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Kenobi_Kid Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 4/3/06 6:59am Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound)
	Excellence posted: What was the issue again? There is no issue. Just someone freaking out over Karen again. -----signature----- High Prophet of the Church of Kyle and loyal suitor of HIH Marasiah Fel Star Wars: Now with 100% more Lyle Waggoner! Lick enough wallpaper and eventually you will find the Snozzberry I have seen the enemy and he is you
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Gorefiend Registered: Oct '04	Date Posted: 4/3/06 7:05am Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound) - Date Edited: 4/3/06 7:27am (1 edits total) Edited By: Gorefiend
	They should stop showing us the clones all the time, we already knew from the ep 2 novel and shatterpoint that there arn't a lot of them. :/ I want to see more of the militas, they are propely far cooler then a few vat grown and mentally tempered with copies of a bounty hunter, anyway.
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Quiet_Mandalorian Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 4/3/06 7:07am Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound)
	Gorefiend posted: I want to see more of the militas, they are propely far cooler then a few vat grown and mentally tempered with copies of a bounty hunter, anyway. Not so far as we've seen... -----signature----- Fey'la was right! Bring Asyr Sei'lar to justice!
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Ive_Got_Two_Legs Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 4/3/06 9:38am Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound) - Date Edited: 4/3/06 11:48am (1 edits total) Edited By: dp4m
	All glory to the Race and long live Fleetlord Atvar. And nice to see Traviss hasn't lost any of her arrogance. "Oh, I spent a few years in the territorial army during peacetime so I have a horrifying first-hand knowledge of war that enables me to see things the poor civilian authors just couldn't possibly understand. I mean, I can't believe no EU author has ever thought of the idea that Palpatinr might lie in war time!" And be honest, does anyone honetsly think Traviss would change her mind after all this? If anything, I bet we'll just be given some stupid [removed profanity] answer like "3 million was actually referring just to the number or clone troopers who left the army aftet the end pf the clone wars, were given secret age-resisting treatments, and joined Boba Fett's elite bodygaurd that you'll see in LOTF." -----signature----- "Where's your sense of optimism?" "It opted out."
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Commander5052 Registered: Aug '05	Date Posted: 4/3/06 10:04am Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound) - Date Edited: 4/3/06 10:29am (1 edits total) Edited By: dp4m
	Baiting. -----signature----- Honored recepient of Thrawn McEwok's Bronze Thranta™ A Liberal and proud of it "Politics is simply the continuation of war by other means." --Mandalore the Ultimate
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Ive_Got_Two_Legs Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 4/3/06 10:08am Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound) - Date Edited: 4/3/06 10:30am (1 edits total) Edited By: dp4m
	Return baiting. -----signature----- "Where's your sense of optimism?" "It opted out."
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Commander5052 Registered: Aug '05	Date Posted: 4/3/06 10:16am Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound) - Date Edited: 4/3/06 10:17am (1 edits total) Edited By: Commander5052
	I'm a one of the less-zealous Fandos, Legs. And I'm Jewish. So as such, that's kind of mean to call me that which nearly killed my grandfather. -----signature----- Honored recepient of Thrawn McEwok's Bronze Thranta™ A Liberal and proud of it "Politics is simply the continuation of war by other means." --Mandalore the Ultimate
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Ive_Got_Two_Legs Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 4/3/06 10:18am Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound) - Date Edited: 4/3/06 10:19am (1 edits total) Edited By: Ive_Got_Two_Legs
	"less-Zealous Fandos" is an oxymoron. And it's strange that you'd be so active in defending a race that's been established as committing genocide yet feel so defensive when called on it. Also interesting that the Fandos go on and on and on about hos they value strength and all that "warrior" nonsense yet are the first ones to call foul when their feelings are hurt. -----signature----- "Where's your sense of optimism?" "It opted out."
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Thrawn McEwok Title: TFN EU Staff Registered: May '00	Date Posted: 4/3/06 10:27am Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound) - Date Edited: 4/3/06 10:32am (2 edits total) Edited By: Thrawn McEwok
	Karen will do what Karen will do, and there's nothing any of us can do except itch about it... I find that state of affairs pleasantly amusing, actually... Then again, maybe it's a British thing... People are so besotted with really big figures; the apparently unthinking ease with which people call mile-long battleships "small" never ceases to bewilder me... shrugs* For all we know, she'll be a true pro about it, retconn the "noble three million" out of sight, and throw in a passing reference to Star Dreadnoughts, too... - The Imperial Ewok -----signature----- A/T = OTP :===8[#]8===: Kyp/Jaina fans: stand up and be counted!
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AdmiralWesJanson Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 4/3/06 10:28am Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound)
	Thrawn McEwok posted: he'll be a true pro about it, retconn the "noble three million" out of sight, and throw in a passing reference to Star Dreadnoughts, too... - The Imperial Ewok Imperator-class Star Dreadnoughts, just to make things more confusing -----signature----- Duke of Corellia Join the Corellian Browncoats in their fight against the evil Alliance! Fix the K-Wing! No more XJs! Make the next X-Wing a T-65K!
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000 Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 4/3/06 10:33am Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound) - Date Edited: 4/3/06 10:43am (4 edits total) Edited By: 000
	Razzy: I'm confused. You start a thread to talk about a "Controversial Issue," and when the discussion starts, you call for a lock? Matt: Unfortunately, what Traviss is insisting is that there were only 3 million clones, no more. As for Traviss's work... she's a very talented writer, to be fair, and her prose and dialog are top-notch. I can't speak for anyone else, but the problems I have with her writing began with Triple Zero (of no relation to my username) where she uses characters as mouthpieces for her personal ideas and morality, focuses on Mandalorians far too heavily, and injects heavy amounts of Mandalorian-ness (for lack of a better word) into the culture of the Grand Army at large. Triple Zero, while very well written from a technical standpoint, suffered from numerous dramatic flaws, plotholes, contradictions in logic, and a fixation on Mandalorians. The plot was also very basic when boiled down. Sinerebirth: I wouldn't mind saying the clones were in reality a tiny, tiny fraction of the entire military and functioned as elite marines (much like Stormtroopers), if the entire EU hadn't already portrayed them as the backbone of the entire Republic military. They're soldiers, sailers, engineers, pilots, quartermasters, everything. Plus, if clones are only .001% of the military, then why call it the Clone War? Charlemagne: The best solution in my book would be to toss out the 3 million number and forget about it, or call it the number of clones available in the very first days of the war. There's already a number of other better numbers, including one describing a million divisions of clones available at the start of the war from ITW:AotC. Rogue: I hope she doesn't try and drop the number of droids down. Thrawn: Well, you brits always had a weird sense of humor... I highly doubt she'll "be a pro" about it, though. Oh, and, Ex: How'd those books turn out? I stopped reading after #2, for whatever reason-- I remember them being good fun, if a little cliche'd. And containing the most awkward sex scenes... ever.
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dp4m Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 4/3/06 10:38am Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound)
	The thread will not be locked at this time; barring a couple of baits above, the discussion is generally within tolerable limits, though if we could shy away from the line a little further than people have it'd also be appreciated. -----signature----- "Looks like you're about to get pwned" - Eric Cartman "Awarding experience points for cleverly and creatively generating an enjoyable experience. How warped is that?" - Darths & Droids
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razzy1319 Registered: Jun '04	Date Posted: 4/3/06 10:58am Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound) - Date Edited: 4/3/06 11:00am (1 edits total) Edited By: razzy1319
	OOO: it was a warning, you knew going in here you would start the whole numbers debate thing again, you knew some of what you were saying are gonna rile up the extremists. I was asking for ideas and you gave opinions that were beyond the topic, opinions that were already expressed each and every mando/clone centered thread for godsake. dont you ever get tired of that solicitor at the door that keeps telling you that youre going to hell because you havent got god in your life everytime you freaking meet? DP$M: cant you find the other thread this reeks of hate and negative vibes... -----signature----- In Space No One Can Hear Your Scream, Except For The BattleCry Of A Galactic Marine -Fictional BattleCry My Kind Weren't Made To Kneel -Fictional Clone Trooper Worst Admin Ever - http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/User:WhiteBoy/Kuralyov
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