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Baiting comments against other users isn't allowed.
I can't comment much beyond that, since I have yet to read a Crispin book. Her juvenile prose keeps turning me off.
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Peerhaps so . . . or just so, as Syrio Forell used to tell tomboy Arya . . . but Paradise Snare was a decent enough book. And the New Rebellion cast cameos were quite fun to see. i wondered about the Spince future betrayal---I had only rudi-rudimentary info of Dark Empire, that I would buy some ten years later. The fast pace nature and brevity of later books made things lighter, but it was the first time readers actually saw the card names of sabacc in full, and for that alone Rebel Dawn is worth it. It ended with a powerfully emotionally note, first Solo's broken heart, then Tharen's literal broken to blaster fire heart.
Erikson could show you what a real broken heart is, after 900 pages of hoping for the heroes, but ah well. Less fan tears, right?
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AdmiralWesJanson posted: RotS- Mon Mothma, Bel Iblis, Bail Organa, Fang Zhar, and others all decide that the Petition of 2000 didn't work, and that a resistance needs to be formed. They decide to stay low, and so set up the foundations on their own worlds, keeping low.
Atrivis- Mantooine and Fest begin to coordinate their resistance after a disasterous strike on Mantooine that Fest knew was coming.
Corellian Treaty- Mon Mothma, Bail, and Bel Iblis decide that the time is right to openly merge their resistance groups, and have Mothma make a Declaration of Rebellion.
Bria could have influenced the merging of the groups rather than the creation.
That was the case, yes. She was a representative of Bel Iblis's Corellian Rebellion at the meeting that merged the groups and drew up the Corellian Treaty, pushing the Rebellion into the open as a large, unified group. No real conflicts.
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I liked how she opened the wookie and Hutt culture in SW for the first time. Sure, she didn't create them, but has anybody else written as in depthly about them? Not to my knowledge. So that's a plus.
I think her writing, like K.J Anderson's, is straight-forward but rather simplistic. In other words, it isn't rich in vocab and/or description. The language doesn't challenge you, which I always look for in a book.
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Yeah, her writing style isn't excellent, certainly not at Stover or Luceno levels.
Still, The Paradise Snare was one of only 3 Star Wars novels where I cried at the end. Very powerful stuff...
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My opinion about her work is mixed. The writing itself and the plots are good craftmanship, but nothing extraordinary. Certainly better than in a significant part of the Bantam novels. I would not compare her to Anderson, to whom she is clearly superior. And then there are the continuity problems, but they are mostly caused by later developments, and nothing that she could be blamed off. The many connections to EU are nice, but I shudder to think what could happen to them because of the TV series...
The positive aspects are the portrayal of characters. I like Han in these books, there really is some development in his character, so that the young Han of the first novel isn´t the Han of ANH, but the Han of the last book mostly feels like the person we will meet in the Mos Eisley cantina. Chewbacca is better than in most of SW novels, which sadly doesn´t mean that much, but still, he feels like Chewbacca of the movies. What comes to Bria Tharen, she is ok. I understand the need for a character like her and maybe she is a little bit too good to be true, but I don´t feel that the author have made her better than Leia or something like that. The only major problem I have with her is that her activities should have not necessarily have to be tied to the happenings in ANH - same can be said about Kyle Katarn´s story, though.
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Rouge77 posted: My opinion about her work is mixed. The writing itself and the plots are good craftmanship, but nothing extraordinary. Certainly better than in a significant part of the Bantam novels. I would not compare her to Anderson, to whom she is clearly superior. And then there are the continuity problems, but they are mostly caused by later developments, and nothing that she could be blamed off. The many connections to EU are nice, but I shudder to think what could happen to them because of the TV series...
The positive aspects are the portrayal of characters. I like Han in these books, there really is some development in his character, so that the young Han of the first novel isn´t the Han of ANH, but the Han of the last book mostly feels like the person we will meet in the Mos Eisley cantina. Chewbacca is better than in most of SW novels, which sadly doesn´t mean that much, but still, he feels like Chewbacca of the movies. What comes to Bria Tharen, she is ok. I understand the need for a character like her and maybe she is a little bit too good to be true, but I don´t feel that the author have made her better than Leia or something like that. The only major problem I have with her is that her activities should have not necessarily have to be tied to the happenings in ANH - same can be said about Kyle Katarn´s story, though.
I agree. Very good characterizations, decent writing, interesting plots. Several positives, some neutrals, and few negatives. Crispin isn't a standout, but she made my top 16 Star Wars authors (out of 32).
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I've been a Crispin fan since her V:The Series and Star Trek novels. And I really enjoyed Paradise Snare and Hutt Gambit (the best of the three, IMHO)....
But I wish she had ended Rebel Dawn where the Brian Daley books picked up. The Ylesia operation and betrayal would have left a bad enough taste in Han's mouth to keep him from doing ANY Rebel jobs--even transporting a hermit & a farmboy. And the incident putting Han on Jabba's bad side seemed like it was stuck in as an afterthought--too little development for that important a plot point.
OTOH, she's done the best job (pre-AOTC) developing the characters of Lando Calrissian and Boba Fett. And she transformed Jabba the Hutt from a slimy puppet to a character who could be FEARED as a crime boss...
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dp4m posted:
Card_Dreamer posted: How exactly is Bria's involvement in the Rebellion impossible?
Unless you believe that Mon Mothma and others waited the approximately 7 - 9 years after the events of Revenge of the Sith required to sustain Bria's background that she was intrumental in the formation of the earliest cells of the Rebel Alliance then it simply no longer works.
Unless she was really that much of a drug addict to believe it, I suppose.
The way I read it, the part in the HST was creating the larger Rebellion, instead of lots of little Rebellions.
I really liked the HST. I'd probably put it in the top 3 multi-book stories in Star Wars (Allston's Wraith trilogy being in there too, dunno about the third ). I had no problem with Bria because I never envisioned Han as some guy who had never had a relationship.
Have you ever known someone and thought they were great, then been apart and you thought they were great, then met with them later and realised they weren't so great? That's the Bria story.
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Okay, I'm going to give this a shot.
(Just FYI, I have never been an addict of any kind. I just wrote about one. Doesn't mean I AM one. That's kind of the definition of fiction -- the author MAKES IT UP.)
I don't claim to be a perfect writer. I think I'm a pretty good storyteller, but I have strengths and weaknesses like everyone else. I am certainly no stylist. My writing is plain and straightforward. At its best, it's "cinematic," with a "transparent" style that allows readers to easily visualize the events I'm chronicling as though they were watching a film -- perfect for doing film and television tie-ins. At its worst, my style is overly simplistic, and comes across as non-literary, slick, and "juvenile."
I guess if I think I have any one strength in writing tie-in fiction, it's that I believe I have a good "ear" for the way beloved characters (like Han, Lando, etc.) speak. I think my dialogue is pretty faithful to the characters we've seen on screen. Their speech patterns are familiar, and unique to them.
I certainly did as much (or more) research as the other Star Wars novelists back when I was first hired to do the Han Solo trilogy. I read every adult novel, and most of the gaming guides, before writing my trilogy. It's too bad subsequent events have negated the continuity in my trilogy, but that's the way the cookie crumbles in writing tie-in fiction. You get used to it.
That's also part of the reason that I have given up writing tie-in fiction, at least for now. Lucasfilm didn't approve the idea of a Leia backstory because they want to keep that era of the SW continuity untouched for the television series they're considering. That was the only Star Wars project that interested me at this point, so I didn't attempt to propose anything else. Just writing a plain old EU type adventure doesn't seem worth the research it would take, and, let's face it, those characters have had dozens and dozens of adventures by now. It would be difficult to come up with something intriguing and diverting in that universe within the constraints of the continuity that's been set up. And I'm not interested in writing just another adventure. I have to have an emotional link to the story I'm writing, feel that I'm chronicling life events of great importance to the characters. I've turned down some very lucrative tie-in projects because they didn't emotionally "resonate" within me.
So these days I'm writing my own books. I'm lucky in that I've always had a career writing original novels, as well as tie-in books. Not all tie-in writers have been able to manage that, and I feel very fortunate.
Anyhow, if I can answer any questions about the directives I was given, in writing the HS trilogy, it was all a long time ago, but I'll do my best to recall how it was.
Best,
-Ann C. Crispin
Author: STORMS OF DESTINY/HarperEos
www.accrispin.com
P.S. Anyone who liked the way I handled battle scenes, can check out the first 100 page of STORMS for free on my website, in case you're interested in the book.
I edited out some stuff to not bait anyone else.
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As for your books, Ms. Crispin, I always enjoyed them, and I even liked the character of Bria. The Hutt scenes were my personal favourites, as was the depiction of the pre-ANH Empire. Personally, I'd have no complaints if you were to write anymore SW novels.
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The Han Solo Trilogy has it's high points, including like you hoped, very natural dialogue that does feel like it fits with the movies, and a rather large proportion of new EU territory. There are a few missteps, mainly in continuity, but a lot of those were caused after the fact by new material.
Probably the most positive thing that you mentioned was the fact that you read the other books and game guides, and made the effort to learn about the universe before writing in it, and it shows, compared to some other authors. You also took the opportunity to add a lot of new things as well, which was nice.
How much leeway did you have on creating the Hutt society and lifecycle?
Was the troopship Han lived on an Republic or Seperatist vessel?
What would you have written differently if the prequels had already been out?
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I know this is a Star Wars board, but you should also promote your blog, especially since there are probably a lot of writers here who would appreciate the service you're providing.
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The Han Solo Trilogy was some of my early EU, and I've always been fond of it. I especially liked how Rebel Dream ended just minutes before Han's role in ANH began.
Plus, The Paradise Snare audiobook got me through a long car trip several years ago
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accrispin posted: Okay, I'm going to give this a shot.
(Just FYI, I have never been an addict of any kind. I just wrote about one. Doesn't mean I AM one. That's kind of the definition of fiction -- the author MAKES IT UP.)
I don't claim to be a perfect writer. I think I'm a pretty good storyteller, but I have strengths and weaknesses like everyone else. I am certainly no stylist. My writing is plain and straightforward. At its best, it's "cinematic," with a "transparent" style that allows readers to easily visualize the events I'm chronicling as though they were watching a film -- perfect for doing film and television tie-ins. At its worst, my style is overly simplistic, and comes across as non-literary, slick, and "juvenile."
I guess if I think I have any one strength in writing tie-in fiction, it's that I believe I have a good "ear" for the way beloved characters (like Han, Lando, etc.) speak. I think my dialogue is pretty faithful to the characters we've seen on screen. Their speech patterns are familiar, and unique to them.
I certainly did as much (or more) research as the other Star Wars novelists back when I was first hired to do the Han Solo trilogy. I read every adult novel, and most of the gaming guides, before writing my trilogy. It's too bad subsequent events have negated the continuity in my trilogy, but that's the way the cookie crumbles in writing tie-in fiction. You get used to it.
That's also part of the reason that I have given up writing tie-in fiction, at least for now. Lucasfilm didn't approve the idea of a Leia backstory because they want to keep that era of the SW continuity untouched for the television series they're considering. That was the only Star Wars project that interested me at this point, so I didn't attempt to propose anything else. Just writing a plain old EU type adventure doesn't seem worth the research it would take, and, let's face it, those characters have had dozens and dozens of adventures by now. It would be difficult to come up with something intriguing and diverting in that universe within the constraints of the continuity that's been set up. And I'm not interested in writing just another adventure. I have to have an emotional link to the story I'm writing, feel that I'm chronicling life events of great importance to the characters. I've turned down some very lucrative tie-in projects because they didn't emotionally "resonate" within me.
So these days I'm writing my own books. I'm lucky in that I've always had a career writing original novels, as well as tie-in books. Not all tie-in writers have been able to manage that, and I feel very fortunate.
Anyhow, if I can answer any questions about the directives I was given, in writing the HS trilogy, it was all a long time ago, but I'll do my best to recall how it was.
Best,
-Ann C. Crispin
Author: STORMS OF DESTINY/HarperEos
www.accrispin.com
P.S. Anyone who liked the way I handled battle scenes, can check out the first 100 page of STORMS for free on my website, in case you're interested in the book.
Thanks very much for dropping by. It's always a pleasure and a privilege to hear from the authors.
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