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Charlemagne19  26812 posts
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Date Posted: 6/22/06 10:29pm Subject: RE: Evil Never Dies: The Sith Dynasties
Sauron_18 posted:

-We learn what Lumiya's been doing (Battle with FLint in Vjun, Jax, Korriban, Nyssa, ADas Holocron, etc...)


Details!

 

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Sauron_18  3594 posts
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Date Posted: 6/22/06 10:51pm Subject: RE: Evil Never Dies: The Sith Dynasties - Date Edited: 6/22/06 10:52pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Sauron_18
Charlemagne19 posted:
Sauron_18 posted:

-We learn what Lumiya's been doing (Battle with FLint in Vjun, Jax, Korriban, Nyssa, ADas Holocron, etc...)


Details!



Ok, let's see:

-After Vader's death, Flint went to Bast Castle

-Lumiya found him eventually, and they battled, um, "Flint's despair was no match for Lumiya's hatred" and so Lumiya became his master.

-Lumiya sent Flint to kill Luke while she prepared the Nagai

-Lumiya heard of Flint's "redemption" and vowed to deal with him eventually, she sought to take another apprentice.

-Lumiya made a deal with Ysanne Isard, and she transferred some Royal Guards to here, including Carnor Jax.

-Lumiya and Jax kill the Prophets.

-She gave him limited training, and told him she would need to "gather necessary elements to rebuild the Sith ORder"

-Empire and Republic thought Lumiya dead after Caprioril.

-Lumiya orders Jax to infiltrate high places in the empire and prepare for the "ultimate threat to the sith legacy"

-The Reborn Emperor Revealed himself (this is what Lumiya was talking about) and Jax became par of his group.

-Jax did the whole physician poisoning clones thing.

-Jax then tried to contact Lumiya to lure her into a trap, but Kanos killed him.

-Before Jax died, he told Lumiya about a "stranger" named Nom Anor who was "interested in a possible alliance with the Dark Lady".

-At some point after the Battle of Endor, Lumiya goes to Nyssa and retrieves King Adas' Holocron from the Mecrosa (who had had it for a very long time)

-On Korriban, with King Adas' holocron and "through an Ancient Sith Oracle" she "watched circumstances unfold with great satisfaction".


My Thoughts
So basically I guess that next she learned everything Sith from the Uber-holocron of Adas, and with help of Nom Anor contacted the Vong and Vergere before the war. Vergere told her about Darth Vectivus and she spent the remaining time in his Lair, learning more and formulating her plan.


PS: There's no mention of Vongorella

 

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QuentinGeorge  4759 posts
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Date Posted: 6/22/06 11:16pm Subject: RE: Evil Never Dies: The Sith Dynasties
Ah! Adas retconned as an actual Sith Lord (ie, a Lord of the Red-skinned race) rather than a "Sith Lord" (ie, Dark Jedi Master ruling said race).

Nice work, Abel!

 

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Sauron_18  3594 posts
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Date Posted: 6/22/06 11:24pm Subject: RE: Evil Never Dies: The Sith Dynasties - Date Edited: 6/22/06 11:31pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Sauron_18
QuentinGeorge posted:
Ah! Adas retconned as an actual Sith Lord (ie, a Lord of the Red-skinned race) rather than a "Sith Lord" (ie, Dark Jedi Master ruling said race).

Nice work, Abel!


Actually, Adas was a unique Sith, he was born with charcoal skin, which predisposed him to a ruling position in his future. He wore black armor. M

y guess is, his armor is the "Sith Armor" Sidious based Vader's on.

And knowing LFL, if they ever show Adas' original Armor, it will look something like what Vader's armor was going to be:



Kind of like what we Saw in TESB Infinities. That looked cool, and it would make a kicking Adas grin



PS: I guess I should also mention, Vader's glove was retconned. It's not the actual glove that is indestructible, Vader took one of Kaans indestructible gauntlets and sort of put his glove over it or something like that...

 

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Ive_Got_Two_Legs  3647 posts
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Date Posted: 6/22/06 11:39pm Subject: RE: Evil Never Dies: The Sith Dynasties - Date Edited: 6/23/06 12:01am (2 edits total) Edited By: Ive_Got_Two_Legs
If Lumiya did contact Nom Anor, I doubt he passed on info of her to the other Vong, because in Agents of Chaos I the Vong first learn of the Sith from Obroa-skai. Also, according to some RPG source, she fights against the Vong in the war.

Does it give any more information on the Sith's role in the Mandalorian Wars, or the New Sith Wars (besides the tidbits on Belia and Ruin)?

And so the pre-Dark Jedi Sith were definitely spaceworthy and had their own empire?

 

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QuentinGeorge  4759 posts
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Date Posted: 6/22/06 11:42pm Subject: RE: Evil Never Dies: The Sith Dynasties

Actually, Adas was a unique Sith, he was born with charcoal skin, which predisposed him to a ruling position in his future. He wore black armor.


Oh, yes, I know that. I only used "red-skinned" so people knew I was talking about the species, not the darkside Order, when I said "Sith".

 

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QuentinGeorge  4759 posts
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Date Posted: 6/22/06 11:44pm Subject: RE: Evil Never Dies: The Sith Dynasties
And oh...."Emperor's Eye" Triclops?

Abel, you magnificant bastard! mischief

 

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darth_Boba  4990 posts
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Date Posted: 6/22/06 11:44pm Subject: RE: Evil Never Dies: The Sith Dynasties
Lord_Hydronium posted:
A new Darth: Darth Cognus, master of Darth Millennial.


Cognosco is latin for "to examine, inquire, learn". Maybe it has something to do with the whole "Sith gain knowledge through power" thing they've got.

 

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arf_maul  215 posts
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Date Posted: 6/22/06 11:44pm Subject: RE: Evil Never Dies: The Sith Dynasties - Date Edited: 6/23/06 12:09am (1 edits total) Edited By: arf_maul
Man, Abel should be in charge of the Expanded Universe hugs

Rogue_Follower posted:
...this thing is better than the entire Insider 88. This should have replaced some of that other rubbish... plain


Sauron_18 posted:
...I think there's actually more Sith info on the supplement than on the insider

Lord Hydronium posted:
...That was excellent, and it makes the contents of Insider 88 look pitiful in comparison.

My thoughts exactly plain If they're not going to have Abel in every issue, then they should at least bring back HoloNet News to improve the magazine's value. happy
Ulicus posted:
Edit: If it's as good as it sounds, I think Mr Pena has redeemed himself for the introduction of "Millenial" into the Darth lexicon*

I thought "Millenial" sounded ok. It was "Darth Zannah" that had me scratching my head a little. Is there a story behind that?

And interesting to note that Darth Plagueis did not receive a mention at all... That's not a complaint, just an observation. happy

 

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QuentinGeorge  4759 posts
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Date Posted: 6/22/06 11:48pm Subject: RE: Evil Never Dies: The Sith Dynasties - Date Edited: 6/22/06 11:50pm (1 edits total) Edited By: QuentinGeorge
Does it give any more information on the Sith's role in the Mandalorian Wars, or the New Sith Wars (besides the tidbits on Belia and Ruin)?

Yes.

Mainly overviews of Darzu and the Dark Underlord's campaign. It seems the battle of Malrev IV was actually a Dark Underlord battle....

And so the pre-Dark Jedi Sith were definitely spaceworthy and had their own empire?

Yes. Not only that, when the Rakata attempted to conquer them...the Sith beat them off!

PS: I guess I should also mention, Vader's glove was retconned. It's not the actual glove that is indestructible, Vader took one of Kaans indestructible gauntlets and sort of put his glove over it or something like that...

No...it was a Mandalorian crushgaunt over one of Kaan's indestructible amulets. That's what the article says.

 

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Ive_Got_Two_Legs  3647 posts
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Date Posted: 6/22/06 11:58pm Subject: RE: Evil Never Dies: The Sith Dynasties
QuentinGeorge posted:
Mainly overviews of Darzu and the Dark Underlord's campaign. It seems the battle of Malrev IV was actually a Dark Underlord battle....


That makes no sense, unless Newar Forrth lived for 500 years.

 

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QuentinGeorge  4759 posts
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Date Posted: 6/23/06 12:02am Subject: RE: Evil Never Dies: The Sith Dynasties
Did Forrth fight at Malrev IV according to the DF:Saga? If so, Abel wrote both, so he might have made a little boo-boo....

Another note: Want to know why the Prophets believed a three-eyed man would lead the Empire? Darth Millennial was, yep, you guessed it, a three eyed mutant....

 

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Ive_Got_Two_Legs  3647 posts
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Date Posted: 6/23/06 12:09am Subject: RE: Evil Never Dies: The Sith Dynasties - Date Edited: 6/23/06 12:13am (1 edits total) Edited By: Ive_Got_Two_Legs
Yeah, Dark Forces Saga had Forrth fighting there. Maybe there were two Forrths, or two Malrev battles. Seems easy enough to fix.

Does the article have any new battles or people of the NSW? Or why/how the Sith contacted the Mandalorians?

 

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Sauron_18  3594 posts
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Date Posted: 6/23/06 12:12am Subject: RE: Evil Never Dies: The Sith Dynasties
Hmm, I thought "Darth Cognus" had to do with hidden or something.....


Oh, and Darth Zannah is from "JediVsSith", that's basically her story. Her real name is Zannah, her people use other names to "Protect" themeselves. Ruusan changed her, Bane found her, blah blah blah, she's Darth Zannah grin


Oh, and I remembered another "Dark Armoured" Sith Lord, also from Ood Bnar's holocron. He's in Knights of the Old Republic. But he has a lightsaber, So I'm unsure if it could be Adas.....


King Adas



Could it be??

 

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QuentinGeorge  4759 posts
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Date Posted: 6/23/06 12:16am Subject: RE: Evil Never Dies: The Sith Dynasties
Looks like that's who Abel intended....


Yeah, Dark Forces Saga had Forrth fighting there.

Ah...reading it, I only see this:

Boc learned all that he could about these heroes, such as how the invincible Tott had battled hordes of darksiders in the Old Sith Wars, or how Newar of the Nercathi clan led the Third Legion of Light to victory at the cost of his own life in one of Ruusan's seven battles, his pyre ashes crystallized and shaped into three idols in his likeness. Gifted with a rare power, Boc used the Force to read the impressions from these idols and access fragments of Newar's memory. Boc was fascinated by the grisly images he saw of Jedi victory at Malrev IV and Ruusan, and he felt more determined than ever to become a Jedi warrior.

 

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