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Havac Title: Lit Mod of War Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 8/25/06 10:38pm Subject: Author Analysis: Vonda McIntyre
	Analyze and discuss McIntyre's strengths and weaknesses as an author, etx. No bashing or gushing. Previous Author Analyses: Walter Jon Williams Kristine Kathryn Rusch Roger MacBride Allen John Ostrander Steve Perry Brian Daley Barbara Hambly Dave Wolverton Troy Denning Ann C. Crispin K. W. Jeter Sean Stewart Haden Blackman Greg Keyes Michael Stackpole Kevin J. Anderson Matthew Stover Michael Reaves Aaron Allston Go at it! -----signature----- "Is there a captain's hat involved in this?" "I . . . don't know what department I want. I need . . . pants."
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SWBob Registered: Jun '03	Date Posted: 8/25/06 11:25pm Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Vonda McIntyre
	Havac posted: Analyze and discuss McIntyre's strengths and weaknesses as an author, etx. No bashing or gushing. Previous Author Analyses: Walter Jon Williams Kristine Kathryn Rusch Roger MacBride Allen John Ostrander Steve Perry Brian Daley Barbara Hambly Dave Wolverton Troy Denning Ann C. Crispin K. W. Jeter Sean Stewart Haden Blackman Greg Keyes Michael Stackpole Kevin J. Anderson Matthew Stover Michael Reaves Aaron Allston Go at it! Who is she. the name doesnt ring a bell. what did she write/co-write/pull out of a**... -----signature----- Think of something funny. Got it? Is it really funny? Good. Thats my signature.
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Thanos6 Registered: Apr '99	Date Posted: 8/25/06 11:28pm Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Vonda McIntyre
	Better than Hambly. A little. -----signature----- New Spoiler Policy--TFN's All Time 2nd Dumbest Rule Jag/Zekk shipper...yes, seriously Anakin Skywalker-- not redeemed In my canon, EU trumps the prequels... And GL has no control over SW anymore
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Havac Title: Lit Mod of War Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 8/25/06 11:34pm Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Vonda McIntyre
	She wrote The Crystal Star, a Bantam book. -----signature----- "Is there a captain's hat involved in this?" "I . . . don't know what department I want. I need . . . pants."
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SWBob Registered: Jun '03	Date Posted: 8/25/06 11:46pm Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Vonda McIntyre
	Havac posted: She wrote The Crystal Star, a Bantam book. Oh. Ithink that is the book i have read the least. Only 800 times. -----signature----- Think of something funny. Got it? Is it really funny? Good. Thats my signature.
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Kyptastic Title: Manager Emeritus SWD Co-Commish Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 8/25/06 11:54pm Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Vonda McIntyre
	You may just have opened a can of words here Havac... -----signature----- "It is your choice," Saba said ."This one does not think it will interfere with our peace deal. We have plenty of Moffz. Blast two." Valar Morghulis
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-RebelScum- Registered: Feb '04	Date Posted: 8/26/06 12:02am Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Vonda McIntyre - Date Edited: 8/26/06 12:03am (3 edits total) Edited By: -RebelScum-
	It was a good solid book ( ) or at least would have been if "Star Wars" wasn't slapped on, it seemed like a more straight sci-fi book with new characters that has just been renamed "Luke" "Han" and "Leia." The spirit of the book was very un-SW, and the characterization was horrible. If it had just been "The Crystal Star" it would have been great, they just had to publish it as a Star Wars novel. So all in all, I'll say she's a good author. Been awhile since I read her work though. ... hm, speaking of Waru I wonder if PAW is still around. -The Scummy- -----signature----- Fantasy Keeps Me Sane.
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Reecee Registered: Feb '04	Date Posted: 8/26/06 1:31am Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Vonda McIntyre
	-RebelScum- posted: It was a good solid book ( ) or at least would have been if "Star Wars" wasn't slapped on, it seemed like a more straight sci-fi book with new characters that has just been renamed "Luke" "Han" and "Leia." The spirit of the book was very un-SW, and the characterization was horrible. If it had just been "The Crystal Star" it would have been great, they just had to publish it as a Star Wars novel. So all in all, I'll say she's a good author. Been awhile since I read her work though. ... hm, speaking of Waru I wonder if PAW is still around. -The Scummy- You mean Leila. There were a few things I liked about it - ie the kiddies escape. But. . . Waru? And Han and Luke? And Leia. . .
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Major_Kettch Registered: Aug '06	Date Posted: 8/26/06 2:59am Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Vonda McIntyre
	Eh, I thought she was okay, but I thought the part where there were undertones of something between Luke and Rillao was creepy. I like to think of it as Luke going into a severe depression and breakdown after Planet of Twilight and slowly rising out of it (almost out of it by The New Rebellion). How else would you explain the utter weirdness that was Michael Kube-McDowell's trilogy? Things I associate with this depression?: general weirdness and extreme desire to avoid killing things-where, pray tell, did that start? Also, the inference (with Hethrir's Empire Reborn) was that the Empire collapsed, which I dislike greatly. I did like the interaction between Han and Luke, though. -----signature----- Yub Nub Commander! Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, you should never wish to do less-Robert E. Lee Sick have I become, old and weak...twilight is upon me and soon night must fall-Yoda Super Star Destroyers are NOT "Star Dreadnaughts!"
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Thanos6 Registered: Apr '99	Date Posted: 8/26/06 3:02am Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Vonda McIntyre
	Major_Kettch posted: extreme desire to avoid killing things Uh, Return of the Jedi? -----signature----- New Spoiler Policy--TFN's All Time 2nd Dumbest Rule Jag/Zekk shipper...yes, seriously Anakin Skywalker-- not redeemed In my canon, EU trumps the prequels... And GL has no control over SW anymore
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Major_Kettch Registered: Aug '06	Date Posted: 8/26/06 3:36am Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Vonda McIntyre
	Thanos6 posted: Major_Kettch posted: extreme desire to avoid killing things Uh, Return of the Jedi? Well, it seems to me he had no problem killing Jabba's hired hands (or rancor for that matter) or a couple of scouts on Endor. I'd even throw in Palpatine since he did take a good swing at him initially (admittedly he was rather angry). Were you referring to Vader? I was more alluding to times when Luke would bend head over heels (unreasonably) rather than kill. Like when he'd mess with people's minds to throw them off (although in a disadvantageous situation I could see the benefit of this) or when he'd deliberately disable fighters rather than simply shoot them down like any other one of our heroes would. I admittedly cannot think of a specific instance right now, only vague recollections. Sometimes Luke's actions made me feel like singing 'Kumbaya' while banging my head against the wall. Well, not really . It's not that I believe Luke should be a wanton killer, but that there are times when leaving an enemy alive is a really bad idea. -----signature----- Yub Nub Commander! Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, you should never wish to do less-Robert E. Lee Sick have I become, old and weak...twilight is upon me and soon night must fall-Yoda Super Star Destroyers are NOT "Star Dreadnaughts!"
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Thanos6 Registered: Apr '99	Date Posted: 8/26/06 4:13am Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Vonda McIntyre
	Actually, I was thinking of the approximately 3000 times he gives Jabba the chance to surrender. -----signature----- New Spoiler Policy--TFN's All Time 2nd Dumbest Rule Jag/Zekk shipper...yes, seriously Anakin Skywalker-- not redeemed In my canon, EU trumps the prequels... And GL has no control over SW anymore
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Major_Kettch Registered: Aug '06	Date Posted: 8/26/06 4:42am Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Vonda McIntyre
	Ah, good point. I never got what was up with that. Did he really think Jabba was just going to free them because of the threats of some guy who claimed to be a jedi (after all, he didn't use th force to get out of the rancor pit)? I guess one could argue that he didn't want the wholesale slaughter that ensued, but he had to realize it was wishful thinking on his part. Also, he was the one who told Leia to point the gun at the deck and was the one who fired the gun, destroying Jabba's sail barge (and thereby killing all onboard). Anyhow, I don't see much wrong with Luke offering to allow the enemy to surrender before fighting; it's more if the enemy had rejected the offer and he went and disarmed them all but slicing all their blasters in two type of type of thing. Granted, Luke is powerful enough to get away with what I see as foolishness, but it irks me when he does things like in The New Rebellion when he surrenders to Kueller when he admits he could continue fighting, even in the VotF when he's reluctant to kill Chiss that're gunning for him (although I can see the need to not incur the wrath of Parck and co.). These aren't that good examples, I know, but it's been awhile since I've read any of the novels. And then there's Union, but I'd rather not express my feelings on that. -----signature----- Yub Nub Commander! Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, you should never wish to do less-Robert E. Lee Sick have I become, old and weak...twilight is upon me and soon night must fall-Yoda Super Star Destroyers are NOT "Star Dreadnaughts!"
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Excellence Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 8/26/06 5:12am Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Vonda McIntyre
	It's kid's book, aimed at kids, kid characters and all. How does that appeal to the older age audience? The stars of the show are not much more than toddlers. Mind you, toddlers that have an amazing grasp of science and thinking, but hey, it's a different galaxy out there, more advanced, not like this primative Earth where sliding doors are still relatively new. It was a weird book, and back then, before moving planets and starfighters generating miniture black holes, it just wasn't on. Who had ever heard of a star having an affect on the Force? And bloody how? Just because they're eating each other? Nowadays, we have many places where the Force is prevalent: Dathomir, Nam Chorios, Ossus, and a few others. But was it that bad? A break from the next Imperial-New Rep battle. Something small scale, quiet. It was never mentioned how Hethrir found all those Force potentials to later test them. A Force-battery saber was creative. The worldcraft. But how the hell does it look like? I wouldn't have minded knowing its shape and length; to give readers an idea, you know. At that time in publishing, we had never really seen Leia fly a ship, so it made you wonder "She can pilot!" Luke was horrible, of course. So he can't think properly, big deal. Doesn't mean you turn into a vegetable. Solo was all right, and it introduced a past love interest, the first time in SW we'd seen that. Tigris supplied emotional drive, and the little Solo kidlings would have delighted all those readers of preadolescant age. This book was a first, actually---the characters were creditless! All the time, you see them with limitless funds, resources, dollar dazzlers, but not here. They were borderline poor. How does Luke live, who pays him? It's a silly question, but is it? He gets a government pension? The precursor to the Vong worldship, the worldcraft. What a massive amount of resources that would have been. There were some interesting aliens, and for Sith's sake, original! Not endless Corellians, Rodians, Twi'leks. There was the multitentacled Indexter info broker; the ethereal Ghostling, which I think also featured in the hard to locate Anakin Skywalker Episode 1 pocket RPG adventure game book; that Enhanced Human with the odd name. Waru actually wasn't a bad concept. It's a big galaxy out there, remember. Why not? What ruined him was that transdimensional stunt at the end. But he was a perfectly feasible character. Was Ferrero mentioned by Isolder in COPL, when stargazing with Djo? But as a Jedi healer it's a pity Rillao hasn't been mentioned, although did Luceno have her in that huge Jedi list at the end of TUF? -----signature----- Rock-a-by baby, on the treetop, Beaming with pride, the filth they hold, But when the wind blows, my temper implodes, High above a pit, filled with sharkticons, Down will come hardcover addicts, beaming no more. ©
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blackmyron Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 8/26/06 8:15am Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Vonda McIntyre
	As Star Wars authors go, she's a decent Star Trek author. -----signature----- Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Come on Dave, you're taking this stuff too seriously." - George Lucas "Reality can rarely be explained without contradictions." - Karnak
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wild_karrde Registered: Oct '99	Date Posted: 8/26/06 8:31am Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Vonda McIntyre
	blackmyron posted: As Star Wars authors go, she's a decent Star Trek author. Ha! Waru pwnz j00! -----signature----- Take me out to the black. Tell them I ain't comin' back. Burn the land and boil the sea. You can't take the sky from me. - from "The Ballad of Serenity" (Firefly)
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