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johnthejedi24  666 posts
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Date Posted: 9/6/06 12:47am Subject: Osvald Teshik......framed? - Date Edited: 9/6/06 3:57am (1 edits total) Edited By: LAJ_FETT
I having been reading wookiepedia lately and it came to my conclusion that Osvald Teshik one of the Emperors Grand Admirals was unjustly exrcuted by the Rebel Alliance for "inhuman atrocities committed against the citizens of the galaxy",...wth? Why was this man executed and for what crimes, from what I ahev read on wookiepedia he doesn't seem to be such a bad guy, pretty tame and compaasionate compared to many of the "evil cronies" serving under Palpatine. Heck, teshik had much of his body replaced after he failed to nail that reb privateer dude and the Empeor sent him on a literal suicide mission against the Hapans.

He was ostracized by the Empipre due to his new and "REQUIRED" implants and prosthetics but he still served with diginity even after the death star was destroyed, fighting on for 4 more hours. What the hell did he do during his career that caused the rebs to whack him?

As suggested below, use of that acronym isn't allowed. Changed it to wth

 

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Charlemagne19  26816 posts
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Date Posted: 9/6/06 12:53am Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?
johnthejedi24 posted:
He was ostracized by the Empipre due to his new and "REQUIRED" implants and prosthetics but he still served with diginity even after the death star was destroyed, fighting on for 4 more hours. What the hell did he do during his career that caused the rebs to whack him?


The fact he was a Grand Admiral was pretty much enough at this point. The Rebellion chose to execute him because they wanted to make an example of an Imperial war criminal to the entirety of the galaxy. There's no evidence he didn't engage in plenty of activities that were worthy of execution like invading another planet for purposes of conquest or battlefield executions. The fact he showed compassion could just make him "jerk" instead of "slobbering psychopath" by comparison.

Nevertheless, the Rebellion gained a lot of legitimacy I imagine by trying and executing one of Palpatine's henchmen.

 

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Excellence  24488 posts
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Date Posted: 9/6/06 1:32am Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?

You ought to change that to "WTH" instead; the F is still considered swearing.

 

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imperial77  89 posts
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Date Posted: 9/6/06 2:27am Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed? - Date Edited: 9/6/06 2:32am (1 edits total) Edited By: imperial77
Also, the mechanical laughter with which he greeted the verdict makes it sounds as though Teshik was in no fit psychological state to stand trial...

But really, we can't know what the exact circumstances were - and most of the sources are in-universe, as well, aren't they...?

 

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johnthejedi24  666 posts
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Date Posted: 9/6/06 2:39am Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?
Yeah all of the sources are in-universe so they are probably biased one way or another.

 

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Charlemagne19  26816 posts
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Date Posted: 9/6/06 2:41am Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?
johnthejedi24 posted:
Yeah all of the sources are in-universe so they are probably biased one way or another.


In general. I think its clear that in-universe sources are supposed to be taken as true until proven otherwsie.

 

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FTeik  4075 posts
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Date Posted: 9/6/06 3:13am Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed? - Date Edited: 2/21/07 10:21pm (1 edits total) Edited By: DVeditor
johnthejedi24 posted:
I having been reading wookiepedia lately and it came to my conclusion that Osvald Teshik one of the Emperors Grand Admirals was unjustly exrcuted by the Rebel Alliance for "inhuman atrocities committed against the citizens of the galaxy",...wth? Why was this man executed and for what crimes, from what I ahev read on wookiepedia he doesn't seem to be such a bad guy, pretty tame and compaasionate compared to many of the "evil cronies" serving under Palpatine. Heck, teshik had much of his body replaced after he failed to nail that reb privateer dude and the Empeor sent him on a literal suicide mission against the Hapans.

He was ostracized by the Empipre due to his new and "REQUIRED" implants and prosthetics but he still served with diginity even after the death star was destroyed, fighting on for 4 more hours. What the hell did he do during his career that caused the rebs to whack him?



He was the highest ranking Imperial the rebels got their dirty hands on.

And wouldn't you laugh, too, if a bunch of terrorists claiming to fight for freedom and justice sentences you to death even if you didn't commit a crime?

 

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Charlemagne19  26816 posts
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Date Posted: 9/6/06 3:20am Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?
FTeik posted:

He was the highest ranking Imperial the rebels got their dirty hands on.

And wouldn't you laugh, too, if a bunch of terrorists claiming to fight for freedom and justice sentences you to death even if you didn't commit a crime?


I think if I'm a smart man, I'd probably recognize that my government does the same for them with far more frequency.

Can you really fault the rebellion for turnabout if you're an Imperial?

Why would you expect mercy from individuals you've never shown any.

 

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Excellence  24488 posts
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Date Posted: 9/6/06 3:22am Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?

The cheapskates cremate their feeble fallen. Toothpicks and matches, that costs nothing!

 

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SuperWatto  5935 posts
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Date Posted: 9/6/06 3:30am Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?
What's wrong with the F?

 

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Date Posted: 9/6/06 3:36am Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?
SuperWatto posted:
What's wrong with the F?


Think about what it stands for in the context of WT_

 

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Excellence  24488 posts
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Date Posted: 9/6/06 3:43am Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed? - Date Edited: 9/6/06 3:44am (1 edits total) Edited By: Excellence

I never understood the desire for such expletives. Why use mundane eng whose words can have as much as three different meanings, when you could metaphorise Star Wars into your speech. Do you flower what I'm saying?

 

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burrie  1438 posts
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Date Posted: 9/6/06 10:07am Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?
I recently had to convince my non-IT co-workers that it stood for "Where's the Fun". I don't think they'd appreciate having such words in the code.

Came up right with it on the spot. nerd

 

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Date Posted: 9/6/06 10:12am Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?
burrie posted:
I recently had to convince my non-IT co-workers that it stood for "Where's the Fun". I don't think they'd appreciate having such words in the code.

Came up right with it on the spot. nerd

doh! laugh

Why would the word be in the code anyway? tongue

 

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Date Posted: 9/6/06 11:05am Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed? - Date Edited: 9/6/06 11:11am (1 edits total) Edited By: GrandAdmiralJello
Charlemagne19 posted:
FTeik posted:

He was the highest ranking Imperial the rebels got their dirty hands on.

And wouldn't you laugh, too, if a bunch of terrorists claiming to fight for freedom and justice sentences you to death even if you didn't commit a crime?


I think if I'm a smart man, I'd probably recognize that my government does the same for them with far more frequency.

Can you really fault the rebellion for turnabout if you're an Imperial?

Why would you expect mercy from individuals you've never shown any.



Yeah, 'cause those "rules of war" things mean nothing. Apparently it's perfectly acceptable to execute a decorated enemy combatant for crimes he didn't commit in a mock trial. Especially if you add the charges 'treason against the New Republic' and 'destruction of Alliance property.' Yup. And we thought the Empire was bad.

Just a hint for anyone planning a counterrevolutionary movement: when you officially declare yourself a legitimate government rather than a Rebellion, i.e. the New Republic, it's very bad form to start by immediately conducting in war crimes. What's marginally defensible in a criminal terrorist organization is not acceptable conduct for a legitimate government. Neither is engaging on a belligerent campaign against another rival government--e.g. the invasion of the Core worlds--without a legitimate casus belli. The "declaration of Rebellion" defended their actions against the Empire previously, but this is akin to the United States invading London after the Constitutional Convention.

Osvald Teshik was not framed, he was murdered. The New Republic is a group of war criminals, murderers, war hawks, and corrupt politicians. They are not to be trusted.

The Empire is victorious on all fronts.

 

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Date Posted: 9/6/06 11:39am Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?
Empire vs. Rebellion arguments? Now where have I seen this before . . . ? thinking

 

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