Author Topic: Osvald Teshik......framed?
Mariu  388 posts
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Date Posted: 10/1/06 7:42am Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?
Charlemagne19 posted:
*preps interrogator droid*

His resistance to the mind probe is considerable...

We'll have to use a double dose.



Will his writing ability still be the same after an Imperial interrogation?

 

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GrandAdmiralJello  60050 posts
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Date Posted: 10/1/06 2:43pm Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?
We'll clone him, just in case.

 

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Mariu  388 posts
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Date Posted: 10/1/06 2:46pm Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?
But what if the clone is unstable? You might have enough continuit errors to fill a trash compactor...

 

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GrandAdmiralJello  60050 posts
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Date Posted: 10/1/06 2:54pm Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?
We have to do it Lemelisk-style, of course. That worked fairly well.

No sloppy insta-clones for Abel, no sir. We give him the best.

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Date Posted: 10/1/06 2:59pm Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?
Mariu posted:
Will his writing ability still be the same after an Imperial interrogation?

I'm afraid not. sad

Halagad Ventor before interrogation ---> Halagad Ventor after interrogation

wink mischief

 

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Date Posted: 10/1/06 3:14pm Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?
GrandAdmiralJello posted:
So can we just corner you, then?
You will try...

Of course, what I mean by cornered is by continuity. I think ambiguity in literature is generally a positive. Like the portrait of Palpatine in Revenge of the Sith. Is he actually motivated to become a dictator in order to bring peace to the galaxy, or is that just a bunch of hooey? Probably the latter, but we're meant to at least infer the possibility of the former, and that's a fascinating interpretation.

 

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Date Posted: 10/1/06 3:16pm Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?
GrandAdmiralJello posted:
We'll clone him, just in case.
Aww Waru of Waru, you do care.

 

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Charlemagne19  26816 posts
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Date Posted: 10/1/06 3:38pm Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?
Halagad_Ventor posted:

Of course, what I mean by cornered is by continuity. I think ambiguity in literature is generally a positive. Like the portrait of Palpatine in Revenge of the Sith. Is he actually motivated to become a dictator in order to bring peace to the galaxy, or is that just a bunch of hooey? Probably the latter, but we're meant to at least infer the possibility of the former, and that's a fascinating interpretation.


Well, as a note Halagad, as long as you don't write it in print then there's nothing wrong with expounding on your opinions. It's one of the reasons the Grevious article was so successful, you got really into his mindset.

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Date Posted: 10/2/06 8:41pm Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?
Charlemagne19 posted:
Well, as a note Halagad, as long as you don't write it in print then there's nothing wrong with expounding on your opinions. It's one of the reasons the Grevious article was so successful, you got really into his mindset.
Well, that's true. I guess it was so long ago, that I haven't really tried to get back into that mindset beyond what I've already affirmed: my intention was to elicit a sense of injustice. I believe Teshik was a good man, which is to say Teshik believed himself a good man. What's that worth in the context of the Empire? I'm not sure.

The important ambiguity for me lies mostly in terms of the New Republic's motivation for killing Teshik. Would they execute him for purely political reasons? We're already begging the question, since no such situation is "purely" this or that. But for argument's sake, I think some, like Mon Mothma, certainly were capable of it. But is that what actually happened? I'm not sure on that count, but I do like that dark Mon Mothma. Sometimes, the idealistic become jaded and lose hope, seeking to perpetuate the probable truth of hopelessness; sometimes, the idealistic become jaded but remain hopeful, seeking to perpetuate the possible truth of hopefulness, even if not for themselves. I think Mon Mothma is one of the latter, and takes the burden of her own atrocities to her grave.

P.S. I can't seem to say Mon and not say Mothma.

Mon. There I did it.

 

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Charlemagne19  26816 posts
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Date Posted: 10/2/06 8:51pm Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?
That works and is very noteworthy I think.

Though, as people have mentioned, executing a Grand Admiral seems to have dubious value as a political tool

 

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Date Posted: 10/2/06 9:08pm Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?
Halagad posted:
Sometimes, the idealistic become jaded and lose hope, seeking to perpetuate the probable truth of hopelessness; sometimes, the idealistic become jaded but remain hopeful, seeking to perpetuate the possible truth of hopefulness, even if not for themselves. I think Mon Mothma is one of the latter, and takes the burden of her own atrocities to her grave.


That was a very impressively phrased bit of prose, Able.

 

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GrandAdmiralJello  60050 posts
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Date Posted: 10/3/06 11:23am Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?
000 posted:
Halagad posted:
Sometimes, the idealistic become jaded and lose hope, seeking to perpetuate the probable truth of hopelessness; sometimes, the idealistic become jaded but remain hopeful, seeking to perpetuate the possible truth of hopefulness, even if not for themselves. I think Mon Mothma is one of the latter, and takes the burden of her own atrocities to her grave.


That was a very impressively phrased bit of prose, Able.


Able is an English adjective as well as an improbably common name for Z-95 Headhunter flight groups. As Abel's sig proves, his name is Abel. tongue grin

Sorry, I take any excuse to reference TIE Fighter. tongue




C19: Again, it's just a symbol. It's not useful to kill him, but it sends a message that the Empire can have its best taken down. Certainly it's counterproductive, but sometimes that happens.

 

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Mariu  388 posts
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Date Posted: 10/3/06 11:58am Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?
Did Grant defect before or after Teshik's trial and execution?

 

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Date Posted: 10/3/06 1:10pm Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?
Charlemagne19 posted:
Though, as people have mentioned, executing a Grand Admiral seems to have dubious value as a political tool
It's all in how you sell it, really. Spin works wonders.

000 posted:
That was a very impressively phrased bit of prose, Able.
Thanks 000. A bit of philosophy for the day.

GrandAdmiralJello posted:
Able is an English adjective as well as an improbably common name for Z-95 Headhunter flight groups.
laugh

There's also Able, the clone trooper turned Rebel.

Mariu posted:
Did Grant defect before or after Teshik's trial and execution?
In my mind, Grant's defection has always been the last big Grand Admiral event before Thrawn comes back. So, likely after.

 

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Mariu  388 posts
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Date Posted: 10/3/06 6:02pm Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?
Halagad_Ventor posted:
[ A bit of philosophy for the day.

GrandAdmiralJello posted:
Able is an English adjective as well as an improbably common name for Z-95 Headhunter flight groups.
laugh




Just how philosophic are SW authors allowed to get? Well, yes, there is the Force, but we don't have much pol. phil which Teshik's Trial has touched upon.

 

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