Author Topic: Osvald Teshik......framed?
Halagad_Ventor  1278 posts
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Date Posted: 10/4/06 2:55am Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?
Mariu posted:
Just how philosophic are SW authors allowed to get? Well, yes, there is the Force, but we don't have much pol. phil which Teshik's Trial has touched upon.
How philosophical can we get? I suppose as philosophical as we're capable while keeping things interesting. I think Droids and the Force and Evil Never Dies both went out on a limb philosophically by Star Wars standards.

 

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Date Posted: 10/4/06 3:33am Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed? - Date Edited: 10/4/06 3:37am (2 edits total) Edited By: Thrawn McEwok
Halagad_Ventor posted:
Well, that's true. I guess it was so long ago, that I haven't really tried to get back into that mindset beyond what I've already affirmed: my intention was to elicit a sense of injustice. I believe Teshik was a good man, which is to say Teshik believed himself a good man. What's that worth in the context of the Empire? I'm not sure.

The important ambiguity for me lies mostly in terms of the New Republic's motivation for killing Teshik. Would they execute him for purely political reasons? We're already begging the question, since no such situation is "purely" this or that. But for argument's sake, I think some, like Mon Mothma, certainly were capable of it. But is that what actually happened? I'm not sure on that count, but I do like that dark Mon Mothma. Sometimes, the idealistic become jaded and lose hope, seeking to perpetuate the probable truth of hopelessness; sometimes, the idealistic become jaded but remain hopeful, seeking to perpetuate the possible truth of hopefulness, even if not for themselves. I think Mon Mothma is one of the latter, and takes the burden of her own atrocities to her grave.

P.S. I can't seem to say Mon and not say Mothma.

Mon. There I did it.


Och, aye, mon!! grin laugh

Increasingly, Mon Mothma has struck me as someone who can't see beyond the limited parameters of her political goals (can we say "psychological complex"?) - a Radical ideologue with a willingness to be utterly ruthless to get where she wanted to...

Putting Darksaber alongside other portrayals of her, she wasn't above completely manipulating a stormtrooper like Crix Madine.

Probably Leia as well, her genuine idealism being a very useful tool for the Rebellion.

Garm's suspicions, I think, carry a lot of weight, and I suspect that Mon Mothma did "freeze out" people who didn't share her political agenda...

Ultimately, looking at the work of her political secretary Major Hextrophon and his subordinates, Mon Mothma comes over as a woman for whom truth and reality don't relaly matter much...

Like the Bush administration, the Rebel Alliance eschews membership of the reality-based community: "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality."

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Charlemagne19  26812 posts
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Date Posted: 10/4/06 10:56am Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?
My opinion of Major Hextrophon and his sidekick is a bit more favorable at this point. This is influenced by his first person writings frankly. Arhul Hextrophon had no love of the Empire, this is true. The fact that he'd been enslaved by Zygerians along with his family might mean that he had a dim view of the Empire's pro-slavery policies. It's very difficult to fake "earnest" and both Voren and the Major seem to do that very well.

However, its important to note that that his description of the inner workings of the Rebellion and Empire are largely accurate as well. One would think he'd give a more glossy picture of the Rebellion if it was for propaganda purposes when his sourcebook seems to continually remind folks of its small nature before Imperial might. The Imperial sourcebook also continually reminds the reader of Imperial courage, strength, and power. While it shows weaknesses of the Empire to be exploited, that's sort of the goal of a book for a Rebel educational document.

Voren's personal writings also are colored by his admiration of the Heroes of Yavin but never invent facts either. He doesn't refer to individuals like Piett as cruel or ruthless scum but merely states their war records along with individuals like Ozzel. N'aal may comment that life on star destroyers for officers is a bit terrifying but that impression is only gained from defecting Rebel officers so its understandable if its inaccurate.

I'd personally prefer if people stopped being so harsh on these two.

 

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Date Posted: 10/4/06 3:28pm Subject: RE: Osvald Teshik......framed?
I suppose Arhul isn't quite terrible, but c'mon, Charles: Voren's a doofus.

 

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