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KNJO Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 10/30/06 10:48am Subject: Best SW ship design - Date Edited: 10/30/06 10:59am (1 edits total) Edited By: KNJO
	I saw a thread that discussed poor SW ship designs and I thought that there should be one talking about the best SW ships and what makes them so good. Also if you could design a capitol ship yourself, what would be the perfect vessel. The category for the ship design is over 800-2000 meters, and is as balanced and self-sufficient as possible (ex: starfighters, anti-snub fighter defenses, gravity well projectors, etc) without being deficient in a way that would make it impractically vulnerable in battle. To current ships in SW: So far the best ships I can think of are: 1. MC-90s, Mediators and Viscount class ships MC-90s have only one real weakness that can be addresses: an exposed bridge. Mediators and Viscounts never saw battle before the Vong war and suffered because they did not trully know what they were capable of. The Vong war changed that and it is indicated throught the series as to be reliabel and formidable combat vessels. Note: MC-90s appear to have a fully three dimmensional distribution of weapons around its entire hull both, giving it apparently a coverage that ships with heavy weapons concentration on its tops does not have. 2. Republic-class Star Destroyers: I personally love these ships, I am probably going to get flamed for that but I do. They are econimical, balanced, and requires only a fifth of the crew of a ISDI. If it could be refitted to hold consumables equal to a star destroyer, two more squadrons of star fighters, and the gravity-well projectors like the Mon Mothma then it would be as perfect a ship as you could get in terms of adaptability and efficiency. Can anyone show me links of pictures of the Republic-class SD? I have seen the cracken image and heard that people made 3-D renderings of them. If anyone could post those pictures or provide a link it would greatly appreciated. 3. Palleon-class Star Destroyers: Upon hearing rumors that the Palleon-class is a regular star destroyer and not a super-class varient this increased its value im my eyes, another plus is its more 3-D design, namely how they built the ship to be 'higher' in numbers of decks. This increases its survivalbility as more shots will be needed in order to reach vital components and destroy it. Aside from that though there is no other information on its capabilities that I am aware of. 4. Sorosub Liberator-Class ships: This is a balanced and tough ship that is well armed and well balanced in its capabilities with star-fighters and ground troops/vehicles, plus it has sufficient heavy fire-power to take on neraly all contenders within its size range. 5. Yevelthan (sp?) Thust ships: These ships are very well designed, reliable, powerful shields, a design that complents those shields, and carries an arsonal of weaponry that enabled them to take on bigger, stronger vessels with a high chance of victory. 6. Ranger-class Gunships: If you have read the NJO you need no introduction to this strong and capable craft. It was the bane of coral-skippers and any Vong escort ship that crossed its path, even Vong warship analogs got pounded with these ships in fleet actions. Fast and heavily armed with computer guided laser cannons and batteries of turbo-lasers, from VP to UF the thousands of wrecked ships they left in their wake is testimony to how well they were build. 7. Mon Mothma and the Elegos A'Kla. These are two of my personal favorites in ship design and are the very first pracitcal do it all vessels ever produced in the Luke Skywalker era. They can interdict vessels, fight in front line combat, capture smaller vessels for bording, launch large numbers of diverse fighter craft, engage enemy snub-fighters and other fast/small craft with the quick response turbo-lasers (see UF page: 322 bottom of the third pharahraph), act as a communications/command ship with a holonet transiever installed, and support ground troops to boot. The only significant weakness of those destroyers obviously is the exposed bridge. Those are all the capitol ships I can think of right now. Are their other good designs that I missed? To the perfect capitol ship here is my idea. It would be identical in capabilities of the Mon Mothma and Elegos A'Kla and (if poosible using SW science) add additional star fighter squadrons increasing its capacity to 8 or 96 craft minimum 10 squardrons max with all the support and attack craft the ISD can carry. Increase its troop capacity and ground vehicle compliment to equal the ISD, add the Hapan interdictor mines, and the mines developed in SW to its arsonal, and integrate the exposed bridge superstructure into more streamlined and protected structures along the top hull. Also incorporate the above mentioned adaptations to the Republic-class SD frame, and the MC-90s. Ideas? -----signature----- "To be a Jedi, Luke you must confront and then go beyond the dark side- the side your father couldn't get past." Obi-Wan Kenobi to Luke in the ROTJ Novelization: Pg 379. "Choose again". Aenea-The Rise of Endymion by Dan Simmons
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000 Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 10/30/06 10:53am Subject: RE: Best SW ship design
	The Avenger-class Star Destroyer.
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KNJO Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 10/30/06 10:56am Subject: RE: Best SW ship design - Date Edited: 10/30/06 10:56am (1 edits total) Edited By: KNJO
	Can you post any information on that ship please? I have not heard of it before. -----signature----- "To be a Jedi, Luke you must confront and then go beyond the dark side- the side your father couldn't get past." Obi-Wan Kenobi to Luke in the ROTJ Novelization: Pg 379. "Choose again". Aenea-The Rise of Endymion by Dan Simmons
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000 Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 10/30/06 11:00am Subject: RE: Best SW ship design
	AKA Imperial-class, mark II. I'm being difficult.
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KNJO Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 10/30/06 11:03am Subject: RE: Best SW ship design
	Oh -----signature----- "To be a Jedi, Luke you must confront and then go beyond the dark side- the side your father couldn't get past." Obi-Wan Kenobi to Luke in the ROTJ Novelization: Pg 379. "Choose again". Aenea-The Rise of Endymion by Dan Simmons
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Kenobi_Kid Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 10/30/06 1:16pm Subject: RE: Best SW ship design - Date Edited: 10/30/06 1:16pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Kenobi_Kid
	The Rebel Medical frigate at the battle of Endor is one of the coolest sci-fi ships ever. The B-wing is also an excellent vessel. It's stable-cockpit system and folding wings definitly puts it at the top of my list. -----signature----- High Prophet of the Church of Kyle and loyal suitor of HIH Marasiah Fel Star Wars: Now with 100% more Lyle Waggoner! Lick enough wallpaper and eventually you will find the Snozzberry I have seen the enemy and he is you
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MercenaryAce Registered: Aug '05	Date Posted: 10/30/06 3:20pm Subject: RE: Best SW ship design
	1. I love the B-Wing design. Not only is it well armored and sheilded, but it has a redicusly small target area and can rotae its body to avoid attacks. That must be one tough bugger to kill. 2. While I rag on the ISD's exposd bridge, in almost every other way the design is pure genius. especaily the dagger shape that means that it gives the most firepower in the fron rather than the large, easy to hit side while providing a smaller target profile. Also it makes a nice feild of fire that would be hard to avoid. 3. Vulture Droids-while treated like the Ties of their day, the felxibility of the waling and flying modes would come in real handy if anyone could really use the thing to their potential. Plus they look cool. -----signature----- "I am no man...I am a space station!" Another star wars ships, droids and troops site: http://armiesofstarwars.com/ It does have info found nowhere Move all sig, for great justice
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DarthSanctimonious Registered: Sep '06	Date Posted: 10/30/06 4:24pm Subject: RE: Best SW ship design
	1. Chiss Star Destroyer: A Star Destroyer minus the Kuat Drive Yards-trademarked idiocy of centralizing all important functions in the most vulnerable, exposed room on the ship. Plus (probably) a cloaking device. 2. YT-5100: Missiles, torpedos, bombs, and a dorsal quad laser turret. Where can you possibly go wrong? 3. Venator-class Star Destroyer: 420 fighters, atmospheric flight, and 420 fighters. 4. E-Wing: It's hard to sneer at 16 proton torpedoes. Well, it's actually fairly easy, but not for long. 5. Centerpoint.
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Mariu Registered: Sep '06	Date Posted: 10/30/06 4:29pm Subject: RE: Best SW ship design - Date Edited: 10/30/06 4:46pm (3 edits total) Edited By: Mariu
	TIE defender. Rotational symmetry = good for space dogfights. EDIT: I'll make a lone defense of the exposed bridge of an ISD on aesthetic grounds (which should never be absent from any design considerations!): somehow I just cannot imagine a Chiss SD gliding to the tune of the Imperial March. The bridge adorns the ISD like the crest perches on a Roman helmet...it bespeaks a certain measure of valor and pride that scorns danger. -----signature----- "You can't be a mother and an artist at the same time. Choose!" --Dame Elisabeth Schwarzkopf, to a fellow artist
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SuperSaiyaMan12 Registered: Aug '05	Date Posted: 10/30/06 4:38pm Subject: RE: Best SW ship design
	The Ebon Hawk, whatever class it is suggest it was the YT-1300 of it's day. It has an excellent layout, as well as heavily armed.
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000 Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 10/30/06 5:01pm Subject: RE: Best SW ship design
	Oh yeah, I like TIE/ins too. And I have to say TIE/lns, if only because they're so underrated.
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SephyCloneNo15 Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 10/30/06 5:05pm Subject: RE: Best SW ship design
	I'm a big fan of Interdictors. There's something about the...perversion, if you will, of the traditional SD design that lends a certain aesthetic quality to them. They're certainly not the workhorses of the Imperial Fleet, but that 'SD-looking thing with those big orbs on it' just has this look of being 'up to something'. Sienar Predators are also nifty little buggers. Can't wait to see more of 'em in action. I've had potential Predator-on-Crossfire and Predator-on-Twintail dogfights playing in my mind's eye since I read Legacy #0. -----signature----- Member: GDG, GMG. Sub-GM: CDG Zam Wessel Lives! Recipient of Thrawn McEwok's Squib Creations Limited-Edition Replica Glove of Darth Vader™ "Samuel L. Jackson isn't only a fine actor, but a gamer. He's one of us." ~ Kotaku
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The_Red_Blade Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 10/30/06 5:40pm Subject: RE: Best SW ship design
	TIE Defender - In the orginal TIE FIGHTER specs (which were then nerfed for X-Wing Alliance?), had shields like a B-Wing and could outrun an A-Wing. Armed to the teeth, symetrical design, a cockpit viewscreen that protrudes past the solar (radiator?) panels... what is there not to love? Missle Boat - While it was used as a Defender-killer, it serves even better as a VERY heavy bomber. While 16 torpedoes is nothing to scoff at, 40 is even better. Imperial Star Destroyer - What the design lacks in practicallity (exposed bridge and all) it makes up in sheer majesty. The triangular hull provides a narrow profile when charging straight at enemy battleships, while the broad surface arreas of its ventral and dorsal are perfect for planetary bombardment. It is one of the most "Star Warsy" of all SW vessels, right alongside the... X-Wing: The model jack of all trades, and the bar against which pretty much every contemporary starfighter is measured against. Fast, powerful, and sturdy, it is by far the most accomplished vessel in all of Star Wars. Assault Gunboat - Nearly as fast as the X-Wing, but more manuverable and has ion cannons (and carries a bigger payload?), so it's even more versatile. The Otana (YT-Whatever00 class): Basically the YT-1300, with the cockpit centralized. -----signature----- Proud recipient of a Golden Ewok™ No-Prize
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DarthSanctimonious Registered: Sep '06	Date Posted: 10/30/06 6:40pm Subject: RE: Best SW ship design
	Mariu posted: TIE defender. Rotational symmetry = good for space dogfights. EDIT: I'll make a lone defense of the exposed bridge of an ISD on aesthetic grounds (which should never be absent from any design considerations!): somehow I just cannot imagine a Chiss SD gliding to the tune of the Imperial March. The bridge adorns the ISD like the crest perches on a Roman helmet...it bespeaks a certain measure of valor and pride that scorns danger. You're not alone; I was speaking from a purely practical point of view. From a more balanced 'favorite ship' standpoint, the Imperial-class would be a close second to the Executor-class in my eyes.
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Jango_Fettish Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 10/30/06 7:05pm Subject: RE: Best SW ship design
	While not the most practicle design, I think the coolest looking is The Invisible Hand. It's just so awesome with the throne room towering over it and stuff. I was so glad it got so much screen time in ROTS. My second choice would have to be the X-Wing, it's just an iconic, perfect design.
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Admiral_Keller Registered: Nov '05	Date Posted: 10/30/06 7:06pm Subject: RE: Best SW ship design
	The Executor I love to death. Besides it's major role planetary Bombardment (really a role of every ship that has the name Star Destroyer in it) it is in it self a fleet. I also love the E-wing, If I had to chose any ship to fly it would be the E-wing for sure. I think my last favorite ship is...Defender Star Destroyer...you got to love the Pocket Destroyer. -----signature----- Imperial Hardliner Imperial Holonet Radio Listener Corellians have Seven Hells...Chew on that one Catholicism Creator of the Njophobia Theory™ a sadly common Star Wars fan disorder
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