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Carnage04 Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 11/3/06 1:33am Subject: RE: First appearance of OT style stormtrooper armor?
	Indeed. No way do you toss away a "fear inspiring" design if you are an Empire....even a "Good" Empire as may be possible of the Fel Dynasty. If there is one boss...you must show everyone who that is. Carnage -----signature----- Carnage I Finally decided to use a signature after 3500 posts! 3500 posts * 7 Characters = 24500 keystrokes wasted
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Commander_Kayman Registered: May '06	Date Posted: 11/3/06 6:14am Subject: RE: First appearance of OT style stormtrooper armor?
	I think you are all wrong at the moment. Just take a good look at star wars darktimes. 501st phase 2 armors 2 months after the rise of the empire still in use. The first thing the clones receive is a new helmet in 'star wars force unleashed', which is actually the normal stormtrooper helmet with phase 2 armor. Though it's not sure in what time this should all be. I even dare to estimate untill when the stromtroopers wear the phase 2 armor: I think untill 9 BBY or 10 BBY, just guessing because we still have to wait how darktimes and the real life series turn out to be. In star wars rebellion 1 some of the stormies still wear phase 2 armor, but with a different helmet ofcourse. -----signature----- Trigger Happy Idiot! Rebels are a bunch of terrorists! By destroying the two death stars they must have killed millions of slaves and prisoners Imperials are a bunch of Nazi's, and after 100 years they're still a bunch of nazi's
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GavinStrife Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 11/3/06 6:24am Subject: RE: First appearance of OT style stormtrooper armor?
	Meh, I'm not saying paint Hello Kitty on their helmets and make the armor pink... I just think another redesign wouldn't be a bad thing. To be honest, I liked Scout Trooper armor better than Stormie armor... If they wanted to inspire terror, they should change all the helmets to be copies of Vader's... -----signature----- Alive and geeking since 1984.
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Commander_Kayman Registered: May '06	Date Posted: 11/3/06 6:30am Subject: RE: First appearance of OT style stormtrooper armor?
	the phase 3 'jarjar'helmet. With the ear flaps the whole sjabang -----signature----- Trigger Happy Idiot! Rebels are a bunch of terrorists! By destroying the two death stars they must have killed millions of slaves and prisoners Imperials are a bunch of Nazi's, and after 100 years they're still a bunch of nazi's
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Jedimarine Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 11/3/06 7:07am Subject: RE: First appearance of OT style stormtrooper armor?
	I think the best way to think of it is that the clone wars dramatically upstepped the development of armor, just as war is common to do...given the relative peace of the early years of the New Order and then once the rebellion gets going full steam, there is no need to redevelop new armor for the entire corp. By the time new armor would be neccessary, the Empire is no longer in a position to develop, manufacture, or produce it on a large enough scale. By Legacy era, it is most certainly the iconic imagery of the armor then anything else. (reality, lack of creaivity in EU mixed with the unstoppable thirst to suck every merchandising dollar possible from the prequels) I would wager phase II is still in use even into the Yavin period, though as the civil war expands, it would become near extinct. I'm sure we'll stumble across it in future EU now. I'd love to see a hall of arms with all three phases and mods on display...totally awesome. -----signature----- So Devaronian females are suppose to have thick fur, eh? Has anyone seen one outside an essential guide? ... When even the creative teams refuse to make fuzzy Devaronians...it should be a clue, folks. Thus endeth the lesson.
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000 Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 11/3/06 7:26am Subject: RE: First appearance of OT style stormtrooper armor?
	There's no real reason for the change in helmet aesthetics. Armor, yes; you can see how modern (ca. 35) stormtrooper armor is simpler and likely more comfortable than Clone War armor, but the changes in helmet design aren't all that necessary. That's why I think it could be explained as Palpatine not liking the Mando influences in the Phase I and even II helmets.
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Commander_Kayman Registered: May '06	Date Posted: 11/3/06 9:45am Subject: RE: First appearance of OT style stormtrooper armor?
	Perhaps, but who knows what they did to improve the helemt, maybe advanced sensors on the viewports. Maybe from a tactical point of view it proved to be more logical to have the t visor removed. Now the armor offers more face protection. I don't think palaptine wants to remove the mandolorian influence since his army is made up out of Mando's. -----signature----- Trigger Happy Idiot! Rebels are a bunch of terrorists! By destroying the two death stars they must have killed millions of slaves and prisoners Imperials are a bunch of Nazi's, and after 100 years they're still a bunch of nazi's
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SephyCloneNo15 Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 11/3/06 9:51am Subject: RE: First appearance of OT style stormtrooper armor?
	Commander_Kayman posted: Perhaps, but who knows what they did to improve the helemt, maybe advanced sensors on the viewports. Maybe from a tactical point of view it proved to be more logical to have the t visor removed. Now the armor offers more face protection. I don't think palaptine wants to remove the mandolorian influence since his army is made up out of Mando's. Clones of a Mando. And not even entirely made up of Jango Clones circa 12 BBY. -----signature----- Member: GDG, GMG. Sub-GM: CDG Zam Wessel Lives! Recipient of Thrawn McEwok's Squib Creations Limited-Edition Replica Glove of Darth Vader™ "Samuel L. Jackson isn't only a fine actor, but a gamer. He's one of us." ~ Kotaku
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TalonCard Title: •Author: Slave Pits of Lorrd •TFN EU Staff Registered: Jan '01	Date Posted: 11/3/06 10:58am Subject: RE: First appearance of OT style stormtrooper armor? - Date Edited: 11/3/06 11:00am (1 edits total) Edited By: TalonCard
	I don't know if it's been pointed out yet (didn't see it) but the two earliest appearances of the OT style stormtrooper armor are in Mist Encounter (set a week or so after ROTS, see illustrations) and the flashback in Way of the Wookiee (set on Kashyyyk sometime after ROTS but before the last part of Dark Lord.) Both of these sources have been around long before any of the prequels came out. So really, having the stormtrooper armor appear so quickly fits in perfectly with what little was already established. As was pointed out, Phase II clone armor was still used heavily for at least the first year after ROTS, and probably through 18 BBY (COTJ discribes an older stormtrooper helmet that roughly matches the Phase II helmet.) TC -----signature----- Death in the Slave Pits: http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/fiction/feature20090531/index.html GODV Guide: www.myuselessknowledge.com/swfa/main.html Hyperspace Blog: http://blogs.starwars.com/taloncard
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Commander_Kayman Registered: May '06	Date Posted: 11/3/06 11:17am Subject: RE: First appearance of OT style stormtrooper armor?
	But those are sources made before revenge of the sith I guess.Does anyone know the the date on the timeline of evasive action? -----signature----- Trigger Happy Idiot! Rebels are a bunch of terrorists! By destroying the two death stars they must have killed millions of slaves and prisoners Imperials are a bunch of Nazi's, and after 100 years they're still a bunch of nazi's
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Sikon Registered: Mar '06	Date Posted: 11/3/06 11:27am Subject: RE: First appearance of OT style stormtrooper armor?
	posted: I agree that Phase II is by far the most pleasing design, though. (N+1)-thed. -----signature----- http://lucidfox.org http://qdb.lucidfox.org - TFN/Wookieepedia quotes Revan is the heart of the Force? What kind of lame power is heart anyway?
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