Author Topic: Legacy #9: Trust Issues, part 1 (of 2)
Kicker  172 posts
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Date Posted: 3/11/07 12:25pm Subject: RE: Legacy #9: Trust Issues, part 1 (of 2) - Date Edited: 3/11/07 12:26pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Kicker
Vengance1003 posted:
Not so sure she has such a blind loyalty. I'm thinking her and Nihl want to see Krayt squished.

I don't Nihl, maybe Malady since he pimp smacked her in the first issue, but not Nihl. In #7 he says: "There is nothing left for you but to report your failure to our master. After all, this mission was under your command. And when he kills you, he will again have only one 'hand,' which will be sufficient." That statement makes me think he at least enjoys being Darth Krayt's hand and doesn't like the fact that there's another.


Vengance1003 posted:
Not sure if that's Krayt's style.

My above statement I think confirms that Krayt has at least killed one of his failing minions since Nihl implied that Talon would be executed, altho, I could be wrong.

Vengance1003 posted:
Can't say I understand all the anti-Talon sentiment.

I don't really like Talon because there's really no character development for her at all, she's like the Twi'lek version of Maul, but she's got one thing that Maul didn't... obvious arrogance in her skills.



Theres alot of underhanded backstabbing and plotting in this Sith order, lol. Makes for a great story :]

 

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BobaMatt  14573 posts
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Date Posted: 3/11/07 12:32pm Subject: RE: Legacy #9: Trust Issues, part 1 (of 2) - Date Edited: 3/11/07 12:43pm (1 edits total) Edited By: BobaMatt
First of all, Vengeance didn't say any of these things, I did. I edited accordingly.
Kicker posted:
BobaMatt posted:
Not so sure she has such a blind loyalty. I'm thinking her and Nihl want to see Krayt squished.

I don't Nihl, maybe Malady since he pimp smacked her in the first issue, but not Nihl. In #7 he says: "There is nothing left for you but to report your failure to our master. After all, this mission was under your command. And when he kills you, he will again have only one 'hand,' which will be sufficient." That statement makes me think he at least enjoys being Darth Krayt's hand and doesn't like the fact that there's another.

Sure, but I think it's a status thing. I dunno, there's the one panel in #1 of Nihl and Maladi that makes me think they're up to no good, and Calixte's statement about how Krayt's Sith are no different from Bane's Sith would seem to support the idea that there's still no such thing as loyalty among the Sith.
Kicker posted:
BobaMatt posted:
Not sure if that's Krayt's style.

My above statement I think confirms that Krayt has at least killed one of his failing minions since Nihl implied that Talon would be executed, altho, I could be wrong.

True enough. I wouldn't necessarily put it past him, I just think the idea undermines the philosophy he holds so dear, the Rule of One.
Kicker posted:
BobaMatt posted:
Can't say I understand all the anti-Talon sentiment.

I don't really like Talon because there's really no character development for her at all, she's like the Twi'lek version of Maul, but she's got one thing that Maul didn't... obvious arrogance in her skills.

Sounds like, considering the small amount of face time she's had so far, you've gotten plenty from her character development.

 

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Charlemagne19  26816 posts
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Date Posted: 3/11/07 12:42pm Subject: RE: Legacy #9: Trust Issues, part 1 (of 2) - Date Edited: 3/11/07 12:44pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Charlemagne19
Kicker posted:
I don't really like Talon because there's really no character development for her at all, she's like the Twi'lek version of Maul, but she's got one thing that Maul didn't... obvious arrogance in her skills.


Maul also knew when to keep his mouth shut. I can stand a living weapon that KEEPS SILENT. She's like a bastard child of Maul and Ventress.

Boba Matt posted:
True enough. I wouldn't necessarily put it past him, I just think the idea undermines the philosophy he holds so dear, the Rule of One.


I think that just means that not only is Krayt a fool about his own ability to control his minions' passions but he's also an unknowing hypocrite.

 

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Quiet_Mandalorian  8380 posts
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Date Posted: 3/11/07 12:50pm Subject: RE: Legacy #9: Trust Issues, part 1 (of 2)
BobaMatt posted:
Really? Pol Temm? He looks like every Kel Dor we've ever seen.
He's missing the eye-shields, and his tusks and skin colour and texture are reminiscent of pre-cyborg Grievous.

 

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Kicker  172 posts
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Date Posted: 3/11/07 12:57pm Subject: RE: Legacy #9: Trust Issues, part 1 (of 2)
sry Boba Matt, my bad, I was looking at the wrong thing while posting, but anyways. Darth Talon for me is just such a bland character, I thought either her or Nihl wood die on Vendaxa and that wood send a message to Krayt, but I was wrong, but hey! there's always time for that,lol. I think the reason I dislike her is becuz I don't see any personality there besides her cruelty, Nihl on the other hand was insulting Wolf on Vendaxa an everything, maybe she'll grow on me tho.

To John or Jan; do we hav an estimated number of issues that're coming out for the series? a rough number perhaps?

 

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BobaMatt  14573 posts
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Date Posted: 3/11/07 1:03pm Subject: RE: Legacy #9: Trust Issues, part 1 (of 2)
I think Jan and Jon said they had the first fifteen or so issues outlined, but the comic is fairly open ended, as far as I know.

On Talon's personality: it's funny to me that the very thing that made Darth Maul so kEwL to people is making them hate Talon. Talon represents the perfection of what a Hand is supposed to be; she is unyielding devotion. She doesn't need a personality beyond that, though it's always people like that that end up cracking, at some point. She was created for one sole purpose, and so she has only one sole purpose, and that's why all the other characters, besides Krayt, seem to hate her so much. I see her as being a major foil for Nihl and Maladi, who each have their own lives and agendas. Talon's probably a wicked tattletale.

 

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Quiet_Mandalorian  8380 posts
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Date Posted: 3/11/07 1:06pm Subject: RE: Legacy #9: Trust Issues, part 1 (of 2) - Date Edited: 3/11/07 1:07pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Quiet_Mandalorian
BobaMatt posted:
I see her as being a major foil for Nihl and Maladi, who each have their own lives and agendas. Talon's probably a wicked tattletale.
Yeah, she's the "teacher's pet" essentially, and functions quite effectively in her role from a narrative point of view, though I'd still love to see her get slotted, and preferrably by a Stormtrooper. mischief

 

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Rouge77  7464 posts
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Date Posted: 3/11/07 1:08pm Subject: RE: Legacy #9: Trust Issues, part 1 (of 2) - Date Edited: 3/11/07 1:09pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Rouge77
Talon could have, eventually, her own personality. She will pretty certainly develop unique personality and not continue just being defined solely by her loyalty to Darth Krayt - if she will live for some amount of time. She is young, naive and indoctrinated at this point.

 

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Kicker  172 posts
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Date Posted: 3/11/07 1:10pm Subject: RE: Legacy #9: Trust Issues, part 1 (of 2)
now that u say it boba, if Nihl wood've reported the failure an cade being alive, he may hav gained sum praise by Krayt and Talon would hav been executed anyways. if only time machines wer real, lol. imagine the possiblities...

 

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Charlemagne19  26816 posts
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Date Posted: 3/11/07 2:53pm Subject: RE: Legacy #9: Trust Issues, part 1 (of 2)
BobaMatt posted:
I think Jan and Jon said they had the first fifteen or so issues outlined, but the comic is fairly open ended, as far as I know.

On Talon's personality: it's funny to me that the very thing that made Darth Maul so kEwL to people is making them hate Talon. Talon represents the perfection of what a Hand is supposed to be; she is unyielding devotion. She doesn't need a personality beyond that, though it's always people like that that end up cracking, at some point. She was created for one sole purpose, and so she has only one sole purpose, and that's why all the other characters, besides Krayt, seem to hate her so much. I see her as being a major foil for Nihl and Maladi, who each have their own lives and agendas. Talon's probably a wicked tattletale.


For me, what's different about Darth Talon and Darth Maul is that we know that DM can back up his words. He's the disciple of Darth Sidious and he shows off exactly why he's so dangerous. Strangely, Darth Talon as the "Hand" of Krayt seems to be utterly unbelievable in her victories as opposed to Maul that she seems to invoke the same sort of reaction that Lumiya gets from some fans when she batters on Luke in Legacy of the Force.

I don't BUY Darth Talon as being as tough as she's shown and her gloating just makes me think of her as even more annoying. Maul, on the other hand, doesn't.

I can't explain why.

 

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Date Posted: 3/11/07 4:01pm Subject: RE: Legacy #9: Trust Issues, part 1 (of 2)
Maul didn't talk as much. It made him look tougher.

Talon babbles like a wannabe villain.

 

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Date Posted: 3/11/07 4:44pm Subject: RE: Legacy #9: Trust Issues, part 1 (of 2)
GrandAdmiralJello posted:
Maul didn't talk as much. It made him look tougher.

Talon babbles like a wannabe villain.


Or what Jello said.

 

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Date Posted: 3/11/07 8:21pm Subject: RE: Legacy #9: Trust Issues, part 1 (of 2)
Kicker posted:
sry Boba Matt, my bad, I was looking at the wrong thing while posting, but anyways. Darth Talon for me is just such a bland character, I thought either her or Nihl wood die on Vendaxa and that wood send a message to Krayt, but I was wrong, but hey! there's always time for that,lol. I think the reason I dislike her is becuz I don't see any personality there besides her cruelty, Nihl on the other hand was insulting Wolf on Vendaxa an everything, maybe she'll grow on me tho.

To John or Jan; do we hav an estimated number of issues that're coming out for the series? a rough number perhaps?


SW LEGACY is an ongoing series. While an ARC may have a finite number of issues, each arc is meant to feed into the next. As some mysteries are explained, others will open and the RAMIFICATIONS of the events in one arc will continue to be felt in later issues. So long as sales justify it, Legacy could go on for years. That's our intent, in any case.

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Date Posted: 3/11/07 8:44pm Subject: RE: Legacy #9: Trust Issues, part 1 (of 2)
jfostrander posted:
SW LEGACY is an ongoing series. While an ARC may have a finite number of issues, each arc is meant to feed into the next. As some mysteries are explained, others will open and the RAMIFICATIONS of the events in one arc will continue to be felt in later issues. So long as sales justify it, Legacy could go on for years. That's our intent, in any case.



So Legacy will be like Republic or Empire?(if sales justify) If it's like that, then I'm glad to hear it and you'll keep getting my money, I love the way you write these stories. I can barely ever wait to get the next issue, btw. Ready to die looks like it's going to be really really good, just out of curiosity, (if u're allowed to answer this) wat species might Darth Kruhl be? thanx soo much for answering my question john, can't wait to see more!


 

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Date Posted: 3/12/07 2:59am Subject: RE: Legacy #9: Trust Issues, part 1 (of 2) - Date Edited: 3/12/07 3:17am (1 edits total) Edited By: Nobody145
I hope Legacy really does go on for years. I view as much better than Republic since we have far less of an idea of what'll happen in the future than with anything prequel related (Republic falls, Empire rises, Anakin turns evil, that kind of thing). Wonder how the sales are going. And how far ahead have you planned? I know its been said that Krayt's identity will be revealed in #15, but just wondering how many other long-term plans are already in place.

I'm still apathetic about Darth Talon. Ok, she's a Hand, so she's a personal assasin/agent, but I think I'm just tired of the evil females who just never, ever die (glances at Asajj Ventress and Aurra Sing). Though she could also turn out to be a good example of why the Sith focused on only Two for the last millenia instead of just mass-producing Sith. So far, she's turned out to be somewhat powerful, but aside from her special role as Hand, I still don't really see much difference between her and the cannon fodder Sith. So far at least.

While I like the idea of Legacy being open-ended and continuing indefinitely, I'm also afraid that that means the negotiations between Fel's Empire and what's left of the GA will be sabotaged, since its still somewhat early if this series turns out to run as long as Republic did.

 

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