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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 12/31/06 4:41am Subject: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	One thing that's thrown me for a loop is the change in format with Knights of the Old Republic. I'm used to Tales of the Jedi and really, Zayne's adventures are decidedly more low key with events much more decompressed. It's more akin to a regular monthly title like Marvel or DC than the traditional Star Wars fare we get. A part of me wonders if Zayne is going to go through a power boost while another part of me thinks that there's no reason he shouldn't be able to just continue meandering about as the crudtacular padawan that he is. On the other hand, there's the Jedi Masters that are looming as his goal and plenty of them he could engage. Basically, a part of me really wants to see him confront one of them yet that isn't realistic given his current skill level.
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Sikon Registered: Mar '06	Date Posted: 12/31/06 7:01am Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	According to JJM, Zayne's clumsiness in Commencement is inspired by the KOTOR gameplay. Like the player, who learns to use the controls in the early game, Zayne similarly has to adjust to the Force in the early issues. I do think he has potential. If the people forgive me for what may be an outrageous and implausible comparison, I'd like to draw a parallel between Zayne and another instance of a "clumsy protagonist" I have seen: Sailor Moon. Not only is she clumsy in ordinary life, she is initially so confused by the very fact of having super powers that she screws up every battle until someone else interferes - despite having a powerful attack that never misses and can eliminate any Monster-of-the-Day in one hit! Yet, as revealed in later seasons, despite this apparent ineptude, her powers are tremendous - to the point that she alone can "rekindle" the entire galaxy - and their source is clearly outlined: love, friendship, openness and compassion. More precisely, her ability to become friends with almost anyone. Or maybe it's just wishful thinking. -----signature----- http://lucidfox.org http://qdb.lucidfox.org - TFN/Wookieepedia quotes Revan is the heart of the Force? What kind of lame power is heart anyway?
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SephyCloneNo15 Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 12/31/06 8:09am Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	I always got the feeling that at the end of Commencement, when we see a focused Zayne in his snazzy new outfit making death threats to the Covenant that that was when he overcame whatever major Force handicap he had, be it psychosomatic or just a surge of new Force energy coming to him somehow. The moment I saw his green costume I was like "He's gonna kick some arse now." We just haven't seen it yet... -----signature----- Member: GDG, GMG. Sub-GM: CDG Zam Wessel Lives! Recipient of Thrawn McEwok's Squib Creations Limited-Edition Replica Glove of Darth Vader™ "Samuel L. Jackson isn't only a fine actor, but a gamer. He's one of us." ~ Kotaku
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ThrawnRocks Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 12/31/06 8:19am Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	Yeah, he definately looked like he was ready to kick some ass (possibly dark side style, given what he was saying), but it may have just been that he was very motivated, and had a difficult goal to shoot for. -----signature----- My Icons: http://www.powow.com/thrawnrocks/icons.html Roan Fel's badassery knows no bounds. "The next Allston book should be all Syal and Myri, all the time." - Jello
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AdmiralWesJanson Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 12/31/06 9:59am Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	I think his speech at the end of Commencement was an indicator of his psychological state- he had a goal and a purpose, and was no longer lost, just trying to escape. But then he gets deflated a bit when he realizes he doesn't have the resources to do that just yet, and he now has a group of friends to take care of, hence the side adventures to gain supplies and money. He is stronger, but he also has a lot more responability too. -----signature----- Duke of Corellia Join the Corellian Browncoats in their fight against the evil Alliance! Fix the K-Wing! No more XJs! Make the next X-Wing a T-65K!
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Kenobi_Kid Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 12/31/06 2:27pm Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point? - Date Edited: 12/31/06 2:27pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Kenobi_Kid
	And that one part in issue #10 where he uses the Force to strategically place mining charges all around Flashpoint station would seem to be an indication that his newfound confidence has brought newfound control to his powers. -----signature----- High Prophet of the Church of Kyle and loyal suitor of HIH Marasiah Fel Star Wars: Now with 100% more Lyle Waggoner! Lick enough wallpaper and eventually you will find the Snozzberry I have seen the enemy and he is you
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BobaMatt Title: TFN EU Staff Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 12/31/06 4:50pm Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	Makes sense. You have to know you can do it, or it doesn't work. "Do or do not. There is no try." According to DL, that's one of the things that held Vader back, initially. -----signature----- DUNE - Chronicles of the Imperium RP http://boards.theforce.net/non_star_wars_role_playing/b10755/29433346/p1/?11 As Father and Son (An AU RP) http://boards.theforce.net/role_playing_forum/b10328/28357048/p1/?10 Emperor Fel's badassery knows no bounds.
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NJOfan215 Registered: May '03	Date Posted: 1/1/07 8:32am Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	I've felt that zayne is becoming more skilled as the book progresses. -----signature----- This council has zero tolerance for any sexual deviancy regarding our Jedi Knights.
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Carnage04 Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 1/1/07 12:02pm Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	Kenobi_Kid posted: And that one part in issue #10 where he uses the Force to strategically place mining charges all around Flashpoint station would seem to be an indication that his newfound confidence has brought newfound control to his powers. I thought that too. Of course I'll get killed for this, but him standing there calmly directing the mining charges with just a few gestures of his hand reminded me of the calm and collected ESB Vader playing dodge-debris with Luke. I'm thinking he's a tad better than we saw at the opening of the series. Carnage -----signature----- Carnage I Finally decided to use a signature after 3500 posts! 3500 posts * 7 Characters = 24500 keystrokes wasted
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SephyCloneNo15 Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 1/1/07 12:06pm Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	BobaMatt posted: Makes sense. You have to know you can do it, or it doesn't work. "Do or do not. There is no try." According to DL, that's one of the things that held Vader back, initially. Mmhmm. Luke: I don't believe it. Yoda: That is why you fail. -----signature----- Member: GDG, GMG. Sub-GM: CDG Zam Wessel Lives! Recipient of Thrawn McEwok's Squib Creations Limited-Edition Replica Glove of Darth Vader™ "Samuel L. Jackson isn't only a fine actor, but a gamer. He's one of us." ~ Kotaku
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cbagmjg Registered: Jul '06	Date Posted: 1/2/07 8:47pm Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	I believe that if he is suppose to be Nihilus, than the "special relationship" with the force that he has will be that he leeches the force off of people. And if that's the case, then he probably will have a chance to become like the Exile where he inspires his followers, but instead he'll stear down the opposite path. Which is the path of Darth Nihilus, where all his followers are slaves to his power. That's if he becomes Nihilus. From what JJM says, the next storyline will be a good indication to where he's heading.
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 1/2/07 8:53pm Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	cbagmjg posted: I believe that if he is suppose to be Nihilus, than the "special relationship" with the force that he has will be that he leeches the force off of people. And if that's the case, then he probably will have a chance to become like the Exile where he inspires his followers, but instead he'll stear down the opposite path. Which is the path of Darth Nihilus, where all his followers are slaves to his power. That's if he becomes Nihilus. From what JJM says, the next storyline will be a good indication to where he's heading. He won't be Nihilus. They've made it a point to separate themselves from the continuity to go their own way. It's all still there but happening in the background. Zayne Carrick is Zayne Carrick rather than anyone else. It's like speculating that Anthony Stewart Head was the Master.
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Ulicus Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 1/2/07 9:32pm Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	Charlemagne19 posted: He won't be Nihilus. They've made it a point to separate themselves from the continuity to go their own way. It's all still there but happening in the background. Zayne Carrick is Zayne Carrick rather than anyone else. Nah... my intuition says that he will be Nihilus. If they really wanted to go their own way completely, why bother setting it in that period at all? I'm not saying it'll happen any time soon. I imagine we've got a couple of years of Zayne goodiness, but considering the parallels that can be drawn between him and the Exile - and considering the parallels that were drawn between the Exile and Nihilus... well... Charlemagne19 posted: It's like speculating that Anthony Stewart Head was the Master. That would have been so good though... -----signature----- This is an imaginary story... aren't they all supposed to fit together, though? An animated cartoon about Obi-Wan and Padawan Anakin would have made more sense. Recipient of Golden Ewok™ and Golden EwokTrooper™
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Barriss_Coffee Registered: Jun '03	Date Posted: 1/2/07 9:36pm Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	He does destroy things enough to be Nihilus... -----signature----- SAN HILL LIVES!
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 1/2/07 9:50pm Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	Ulicus posted: Nah... my intuition says that he will be Nihilus. If they really wanted to go their own way completely, why bother setting it in that period at all? Why not? Another reason is that it's underdeveloped to the point that they could set up their own hero without stepping on the toes of the overstretched continuity of the Galactic Civil War period which lends itself better to my theory. Ulicus posted: I'm not saying it'll happen any time soon. I imagine we've got a couple of years of Zayne goodiness, but considering the parallels that can be drawn between him and the Exile - and considering the parallels that were drawn between the Exile and Nihilus... well... Except for the fact that aside from Zayne Carrick's connection to people (and that ability hasn't been touched upon), there's nothing remotely connecting them. The Prophecy has been pretty strongly hinted to have nothing to do with Zayne as well. I'm also fairly sure it'd be pretty poor reading if the hero the audience has been following became the enemy just so some nameless video game character can later kill him? Ulicus posted: That would have been so good though... True.
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Ulicus Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 1/2/07 10:29pm Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	Tragic stories are perfectly acceptable reading. What's more tragic than your hero becoming a planet destroying Sith creature of nothingness? Things could go a number of different ways with Zayne and I think it's very likely that they've got the "He is Nihilus" thing as one potential route to go down. -----signature----- This is an imaginary story... aren't they all supposed to fit together, though? An animated cartoon about Obi-Wan and Padawan Anakin would have made more sense. Recipient of Golden Ewok™ and Golden EwokTrooper™
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