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Mark686 Registered: Aug '01	Date Posted: 1/29/07 2:04pm Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	But if they succeeded in their original task of killing him none of it would have come to pass, right?
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 1/29/07 2:10pm Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	dizfactor posted: Mark686 posted: I just read Commencement for the first time 2 days ago and it was awesome. I dont think Zayne Should become dark. In the end, it would be foolish for those pompous, murdering masters to be right. They wouldn't be right, they would have set in motion the very events they were trying to prevent, Oedipus-style. Yeah so? Still right. Zayne is the threat. With or without them, they're right in pursuing him until he's dead.
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SephyCloneNo15 Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 1/29/07 2:13pm Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	Mark686 posted: But if they succeeded in their original task of killing him none of it would have come to pass, right? Difficult to see, the future is. -----signature----- Member: GDG, GMG. Sub-GM: CDG Zam Wessel Lives! Recipient of Thrawn McEwok's Squib Creations Limited-Edition Replica Glove of Darth Vader™ "Samuel L. Jackson isn't only a fine actor, but a gamer. He's one of us." ~ Kotaku
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Mark686 Registered: Aug '01	Date Posted: 1/29/07 2:15pm Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	SephyCloneNo15 posted: Mark686 posted: But if they succeeded in their original task of killing him none of it would have come to pass, right? Difficult to see, the future is. Which is why you shouldnt start greasing people just because you think you know how things will end up.
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BobaMatt Title: TFN EU Staff Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 1/29/07 2:17pm Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	Well why keep things confusing when you can just act rashly and without thinking in order to ensure the future you've foreseen? -----signature----- DUNE - Chronicles of the Imperium RP http://boards.theforce.net/non_star_wars_role_playing/b10755/29433346/p1/?11 As Father and Son (An AU RP) http://boards.theforce.net/role_playing_forum/b10328/28357048/p1/?10 Emperor Fel's badassery knows no bounds.
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 1/29/07 2:25pm Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	BobaMatt posted: Well why keep things confusing when you can just act rashly and without thinking in order to ensure the future you've foreseen? In any case, it's just lazy storytelling. I like better the idea that the padawan massacre had NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER on the future. It makes it even more pointless and horrific.
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Mark686 Registered: Aug '01	Date Posted: 1/29/07 2:26pm Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	Charlemagne19 posted: BobaMatt posted: Well why keep things confusing when you can just act rashly and without thinking in order to ensure the future you've foreseen? In any case, it's just lazy storytelling. I like better the idea that the padawan massacre had NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER on the future. It makes it even more pointless and horrific. Agreed.
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SephyCloneNo15 Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 1/29/07 2:29pm Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	Charlemagne19 posted: BobaMatt posted: Well why keep things confusing when you can just act rashly and without thinking in order to ensure the future you've foreseen? In any case, it's just lazy storytelling. I like better the idea that the padawan massacre had NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER on the future. It makes it even more pointless and horrific. I prefer to think that the Padawan Massacre was doomed to happen anyway. Always in motion, the future may be, but we've seen that doing anything to prevent a prophecy coming true automatically makes it come true. As soon as Q'Anilia fainted and they decided to head up to the Rogue Moon, the Covenant doomed themselves to see this vision and bring it about. -----signature----- Member: GDG, GMG. Sub-GM: CDG Zam Wessel Lives! Recipient of Thrawn McEwok's Squib Creations Limited-Edition Replica Glove of Darth Vader™ "Samuel L. Jackson isn't only a fine actor, but a gamer. He's one of us." ~ Kotaku
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Havac Title: Lit Mod of War Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 1/29/07 2:51pm Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	That's the nature of prophecy. Whatever you do, it happens. -----signature----- "Reality doesn't care if you believe it." - Boba Fett
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 1/29/07 2:52pm Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	Havac posted: That's the nature of prophecy. Whatever you do, it happens. I always preferred the ESB version of the future. There's lots of possibilities but they can be changed by choices
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Havac Title: Lit Mod of War Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 1/29/07 2:55pm Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	They're not exclusive. There are many possibilities depending on your actions, and things are always unclear, but if you get a Force vision that says something will happen, it happens. -----signature----- "Reality doesn't care if you believe it." - Boba Fett
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Barriss_Coffee Registered: Jun '03	Date Posted: 1/29/07 2:57pm Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	Havac posted: That's the nature of prophecy. Whatever you do, it happens. I like Obi-Wan's version best. Whatever the prophecy might be, it WILL happen. From a certain point of view. -----signature----- SAN HILL LIVES! "...he shall be referred to from now on as Nuteray Gunpants." - R_Zion Senator of the Disciples of Lady Lumiya and Lord Shadowspawn
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Mark686 Registered: Aug '01	Date Posted: 1/29/07 4:37pm Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	Charlemagne19 posted: Havac posted: That's the nature of prophecy. Whatever you do, it happens. I always preferred the ESB version of the future. There's lots of possibilities but they can be changed by choices Thats the way i see it too. One possible outcome is shown to you. Doing something may make it come true...or doing nothing may make it come true. The idea of unchangeable destiny starts to suck a little when you have people who can see it. Whats the point of doing anything at all if everything is already predestined to go to hell?
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vong333 Registered: Oct '03	Date Posted: 1/29/07 4:55pm Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point?
	I'm not feeling this series. I really liked the Tales of the Jedi stuff, those were good. This one, I don't know, its got the same prequel feel to it. If it is a refelction of the games, then are we going to get different colors of lightsabers? What about the force powers? There kinda bland if you ask me. Heck, Legacy already has the bring back to life power, and the Swarm War and LOTF has the time travel thing, heck the first book of LOTF has Mara doing this force levitation, heat abosorption, air defelction thing for two hundred meters. Whats going on with this series? It just seams way to bland for me. Little action, I don't know.
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Mayor_Adam_West Registered: Aug '06	Date Posted: 1/29/07 5:48pm Subject: RE: Will Zayne Carrick start to build himself up at any point? - Date Edited: 1/29/07 5:49pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Mayor_Adam_West
	The problem is, Zayne was pretty much the worst in his jedi class. You're not gonna see super Force powers from him anytime soon. If that's what you want you may be reading the wrong series.
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