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finkman  58 posts
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Date Posted: 2/6/07 3:41pm Subject: So what did the galaxy-at-large think happend to Anakin Skywalker?
Sorry if this has been asked and answered, but do any sources touch on this? We know from the intro to the ROTS novel that Anakin was pretty famous as a war hero. Also, I'm assuming that the galaxy in general was told that the Jedi went bad and tried to overthrow the government, hence the need to wipe them out.

Do people think that Anakin was part of that? Do they know that he led the 501st to wipe out the other Jedi (thus thinking of him as the "one good Jedi")? If so, do they assume he got killed doing so? Or perhaps they assume/were told that he was killed by the "rogue" Jedi Obi-Wan Kenobi on Mustafar?

Oh, and I assume from a variety of sources that it was not (at least until sometime after Endor) common knowledge that Anakin = Vader, right?

Anyway, any light that could be shed on this (or directing me to threads that might already cover this) would be much appreciated.

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Date Posted: 2/6/07 4:05pm Subject: RE: So what did the galaxy-at-large think happend to Anakin Skywalker? - Date Edited: 2/6/07 4:06pm (1 edits total) Edited By: BobaMatt
Killed like all the other Jedi. Those that new Anakin had become Vader did nothing to correct this idea. In fact, Obi-Wan tended to try to foster it.

 

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Carnage04  4905 posts
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Date Posted: 2/6/07 4:09pm Subject: RE: So what did the galaxy-at-large think happend to Anakin Skywalker?


I'm positive that there are threads on this, but I find this to be a really interesting question so I will respond to it.

I'm thinking that Anakin Skywalker is declared to be dead....going down in a heroic effort against some of the traitorous Jedi. I believe that the INITIAL plan was to further add to Anakin's legend by stating that he saved the galaxy from many of the rogue Jedi and has sworn his allegiance to the Emperor and will continue to serve as his enforcer and protector. Lucky for Palpatine, Anakin got himself minced and tossed in the suit. If everyone knew that Darth Vader was Anakin Skywalker, it would be harder for the Emperor to disassociate his apprentice from his old life. With nobody knowing who the man in the black suit was, it was easier to make Anakin Skywalker truly be truly dead. Just another time that Palpatine turned a failure into an advantage for himself.

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LordVader66  1797 posts
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Date Posted: 2/6/07 6:29pm Subject: RE: So what did the galaxy-at-large think happend to Anakin Skywalker? - Date Edited: 2/6/07 6:34pm (1 edits total) Edited By: LordVader66
He was thought to have died defending the Jedi Temple against the clones. He was declared a part of the Jedi rebellion as well. Only a handful of people in the galaxy knew Anakin was Vader.

 

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finkman  58 posts
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Date Posted: 2/6/07 7:32pm Subject: RE: So what did the galaxy-at-large think happend to Anakin Skywalker?
LordVader66 posted:
He was thought to have died defending the Jedi Temple against the clones. He was declared a part of the Jedi rebellion as well. Only a handful of people in the galaxy knew Anakin was Vader.


Not to doubt you, but do you have a source on that? Seems more likely that, as the others have said, he was pitched as the one "good" Jedi who died defending the Empire against the others. 'Cause you would think that somewhere, there would be holos of him and the 501st marching into the Jedi Temple, no?

 

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Havac  14246 posts
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Date Posted: 2/6/07 7:45pm Subject: RE: So what did the galaxy-at-large think happend to Anakin Skywalker?
One wonders most about the 501st: did they know they were acting under Lord Vader when they sacked the Temple, or was he simply passed off as High General Skywalker to them?

 

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Jango_Fettish  1020 posts
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Date Posted: 2/6/07 7:50pm Subject: RE: So what did the galaxy-at-large think happend to Anakin Skywalker?
I may be mistaken, but I thought this was addressed in the ROTS novel saying Anakin died in the Temple.

 

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Date Posted: 2/6/07 7:52pm Subject: RE: So what did the galaxy-at-large think happend to Anakin Skywalker?
Havac posted:
One wonders most about the 501st: did they know they were acting under Lord Vader when they sacked the Temple, or was he simply passed off as High General Skywalker to them?

By the time Operation: Knightfall was under way, Anakin was already Lord Vader to the 501st.

 

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Date Posted: 2/6/07 7:54pm Subject: RE: So what did the galaxy-at-large think happend to Anakin Skywalker?
finkman posted:
LordVader66 posted:
He was thought to have died defending the Jedi Temple against the clones. He was declared a part of the Jedi rebellion as well. Only a handful of people in the galaxy knew Anakin was Vader.


Not to doubt you, but do you have a source on that? Seems more likely that, as the others have said, he was pitched as the one "good" Jedi who died defending the Empire against the others. 'Cause you would think that somewhere, there would be holos of him and the 501st marching into the Jedi Temple, no?


he'd have had to have been labeled a traitor... definately not the Temple purge commander since there's no way significant numbers of people wouldn't figure out that "loyal Jedi who wore black and led 501st" isn't "random Force using dude in a black suit w/ lightsaber who leads the 501st who showed up a few weeks later" especially when both are good military commanders who fly modified Jedi fighters. and Vader would rather have Anakin called a traitor for sure. i'd say Palps was indeed wanting to keep Anakin as the one good Jedi, but didn't due to the suit. so all holos of the Temple purge were purged. which is why only Artoo had any by the time the OT rolls around... and if Anakin was hailed as a loyal Jedi surely Luke would have seen that at some point.

 

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LordVader66  1797 posts
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Date Posted: 2/6/07 7:57pm Subject: RE: So what did the galaxy-at-large think happend to Anakin Skywalker?
finkman posted:
LordVader66 posted:
He was thought to have died defending the Jedi Temple against the clones. He was declared a part of the Jedi rebellion as well. Only a handful of people in the galaxy knew Anakin was Vader.


Not to doubt you, but do you have a source on that? Seems more likely that, as the others have said, he was pitched as the one "good" Jedi who died defending the Empire against the others. 'Cause you would think that somewhere, there would be holos of him and the 501st marching into the Jedi Temple, no?


It says in Dark Lord Anakin died defending the Jedi Temple. Palpatine's description of events to a groups of Senators says that he sent clones to reason with the Jedi at the Temple. Instead of talking, the Jedi drew their lightsabers. They battled and the clones emerged victorious. In the book, it never specifically states that Anakin Skywalker was a traitor. But if it's well known he died defending the Temple and the clones were sent their to talk the Jedi out of rebelling, you just have to put two and two together. If there were holos, they caught a hooded being dressed in black leading the clones. Who knows exactly who that could have been? With the political power Palpatine had, those holos could have quickly disappeared as well. I'm sure it was a bit of a sore subject for Palpatine as well, as Anakin had become quite close to the Emperor as Order 66 drew near. But for Palpatine to exempt Anakin for the rebellion it might have lead to questions if there had been any other innocent Jedi. Since Anakin as everyone knew him was gone, it would have been much easier just to say every single Jedi in the Order was guilty of treason.

Havac posted:
One wonders most about the 501st: did they know they were acting under Lord Vader when they sacked the Temple, or was he simply passed off as High General Skywalker to them?


Anakin Skywalker was a Jedi. They would have killed him. I assume that played a part in Palpatine knighting him Darth Vader in the Chancellor's office. I sure Palpatine sent out a message to the clone commander notifying him of that Anakin was no longer a Jedi and could be trusted.

 

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Date Posted: 2/6/07 8:03pm Subject: RE: So what did the galaxy-at-large think happend to Anakin Skywalker?
LordVader66 posted:
If there were holos, they caught a hooded being dressed in black leading the clones. Who knows exactly who that could have been?

Obi-Wan and Yoda did. It appears he wasn't wearing his hood for very long.
LordVader66 posted:
Anakin Skywalker was a Jedi. They would have killed him.

Not if their order was not to.

 

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Date Posted: 2/6/07 9:26pm Subject: RE: So what did the galaxy-at-large think happend to Anakin Skywalker? - Date Edited: 2/6/07 9:28pm (1 edits total) Edited By: King_of_Red_Lions
Anakin probably went down in history as the worst of the Jedi traitors because he was supposedly such a good friend of the Chancellor and held a position of trust with him.

That history was shortlived though because during the New Republic era and beyond, Luke makes it widely known that Vader was really Anakin Skywalker, his father. A lot of politicians don't trust Luke or the Jedi because of who his father is. So, I guess he is still considered a traitor by some. This time, for different reasons.

Although it's hard to say how many people actually bought the whole 'Jedi rebellion' story. Bail didn't. I'm sure there were others.

 

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Date Posted: 2/6/07 9:33pm Subject: RE: So what did the galaxy-at-large think happend to Anakin Skywalker?
LordVader66 posted:
If there were holos, they caught a hooded being dressed in black leading the clones. Who knows exactly who that could have been? With the political power Palpatine had, those holos could have quickly disappeared as well. I'm sure it was a bit of a sore subject for Palpatine as well, as Anakin had become quite close to the Emperor as Order 66 drew near.


I'm sure they could have just as easily been doctored to show the new Lord Vader in place of the Jedi-lookalike.

 

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Date Posted: 2/6/07 9:35pm Subject: RE: So what did the galaxy-at-large think happend to Anakin Skywalker?
King_of_Red_Lions posted:
A lot of politicians don't trust Luke or the Jedi because of who his father is. So, I guess he is still considered a traitor by some. This time, for different reasons.

On the other hand, a lot of people realize that Anakin came to his sentence and killed the Emperor.

 

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Date Posted: 2/6/07 9:37pm Subject: RE: So what did the galaxy-at-large think happend to Anakin Skywalker? - Date Edited: 2/6/07 9:37pm (1 edits total) Edited By: 000
With a period. Or a question mark?

 

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Date Posted: 2/6/07 9:39pm Subject: RE: So what did the galaxy-at-large think happend to Anakin Skywalker?
A question mark, since the Emperor returned.

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