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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 2/7/07 2:43pm Subject: Characters that certain authors don't get.
	James Luceno: Darth Vader. Darth Vader is an unstoppable juggernaut of destruction and warlord. He is not a whiny pouty guy. Timothy Zahn: Darth Vader. He's the second most dangerous man in the universe. Troy Denning: Luke Skywalker is not a vacilliating guy. He rushes headlong into danger, not the opposite. Jude Watson: Anakin Skywalker is not a puppy torturing psychopath before Episode III. Anyone else?
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BobaMatt Title: TFN EU Staff Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 2/7/07 2:50pm Subject: RE: Characters that certain authors don't get.
	I'm not sure what you're saying. Are those things you're telling the authors, or are those things that the authors got wrong? -----signature----- DUNE - Chronicles of the Imperium RP http://boards.theforce.net/non_star_wars_role_playing/b10755/29433346/p1/?11 As Father and Son (An AU RP) http://boards.theforce.net/role_playing_forum/b10328/28357048/p1/?10 Emperor Fel's badassery knows no bounds.
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Sn4tcH Registered: Oct '04	Date Posted: 2/7/07 2:51pm Subject: RE: Characters that certain authors don't get.
	Zahn: Darth Vader. I think we all understand why. Traviss: Boba Fett. Some people think it's making him into a character, some think it's the destruction of who he was. Anderson: Callista. Went from interesting to whiny and annoying. Wolverton: Luke Skywalker and Han Solo. No No No No No and NO! Those are my only beefs for now. -----signature----- http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/web/thread.jspa?threadID=2000183542&tstart=30 The Batmite76 Batman Continuity Project PM me if you want to help!
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Bringbacknom Registered: Sep '06	Date Posted: 2/7/07 2:54pm Subject: RE: Characters that certain authors don't get.
	i thought denning 'got' luke in the DNT, but took him back down in Tempest. the best is of course Luke and Vonda McIntyre...butchered him like a lamb -----signature----- Down with squibs!
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Ashandarei Registered: Oct '04	Date Posted: 2/7/07 2:57pm Subject: RE: Characters that certain authors don't get.
	Lucas: Anakin and Padme. -----signature----- What is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger.
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Havac Title: Lit Mod of War Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 2/7/07 2:59pm Subject: RE: Characters that certain authors don't get.
	James Luceno: Darth Vader. Darth Vader is an unstoppable juggernaut of destruction and warlord. He is not a whiny pouty guy. Immediately after getting in the suit? I don't think so. He wasn't pouty in Dark Lord either, just getting used to the Sith thing and dealing with the suit and what he'd done. He had to come to terms with the past to turn into the Vader we know. You don't just put him in the suit and that flips a mental switch to "Badass". Timothy Zahn: Darth Vader. He's the second most dangerous man in the universe. And how didn't Zahn get that? Troy Denning: Luke Skywalker is not a vacilliating guy. He rushes headlong into danger, not the opposite. I don't see that a lot in Denning's work. I think his Luke is less vacillating than several other writers'. -----signature----- "Reality doesn't care if you believe it." - Boba Fett
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DarthSanctimonious Registered: Sep '06	Date Posted: 2/7/07 3:04pm Subject: RE: Characters that certain authors don't get. - Date Edited: 2/7/07 3:05pm (1 edits total) Edited By: DarthSanctimonious
	Troy Denning: Kommandant der Solojugend in Tempest is ridiculous, and the character is not recognizable as Ben Skywalker. The same goes for the inane portrayal of Jacen as a Snidely Whiplash type. Matthew Stover: Jacen's portrayal in Traitor clashed with all continuity by erroneously portraying him as an interesting character with depth.
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BobaMatt Title: TFN EU Staff Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 2/7/07 3:06pm Subject: RE: Characters that certain authors don't get. - Date Edited: 2/7/07 3:12pm (4 edits total) Edited By: BobaMatt
	Ah, I think I understand, now. In that case... Charlemagne19 posted: James Luceno: Darth Vader. Darth Vader is an unstoppable juggernaut of destruction and warlord. He is not a whiny pouty guy. Dark Lord takes place very recently after Revenge of the Sith, a movie in which Darth Vader's final line is a loud, pouty whine. By the end of DL, Vader's well on his way, having gotten over a great deal of his impotence-causing self-pity. He's got twenty years to become the Darth Vader we've all been wishing for for years. Charlemagne19 posted: Timothy Zahn: Darth Vader. He's the second most dangerous man in the universe. But...but..but...Mara Jade is so cool! Right guys? Charlemagne19 posted: Troy Denning: Luke Skywalker is not a vacilliating guy. He rushes headlong into danger, not the opposite. Luke Skywalker used to not be a vacilating guy. Since the NJO he's had the galaxy on his shoulders non-stop. Charlemagne19 posted: Jude Watson: Anakin Skywalker is not a puppy torturing psychopath before Episode III. I agree for the most part, but I think Watson's heart's in the right place. It's nice to see that a tendency to abuse power and a sadistic interpretation of justice didn't materialize out of thin air when he gets his Sith name. DarthSanctimonious posted: Troy Denning: Kommandant der Solojugend in Tempest is ridiculous, and the character is not recognizable as Ben Skywalker. To the contrary, we don't get much Ben characterization at all before LotF, so this is all we really have to go by, thus far. In fact, I think it's pretty realistic. We know from the DNT that he's got an annoying habit of clinging to bad influences out of stubborn defiance. DarthSanctimonious posted: Matthew Stover: Jacen's portrayal in Traitor clashed with all continuity by erroneously portraying him as an interesting character with depth. -----signature----- DUNE - Chronicles of the Imperium RP http://boards.theforce.net/non_star_wars_role_playing/b10755/29433346/p1/?11 As Father and Son (An AU RP) http://boards.theforce.net/role_playing_forum/b10328/28357048/p1/?10 Emperor Fel's badassery knows no bounds.
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SephyCloneNo15 Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 2/7/07 3:09pm Subject: RE: Characters that certain authors don't get.
	Ashandarei posted: Lucas: Anakin and Padme. DarthSanctimonious posted: Matthew Stover: Jacen's portrayal in Traitor clashed with all continuity by erroneously portraying him as an interesting character with depth. -----signature----- Member: GDG, GMG. Sub-GM: CDG Zam Wessel Lives! Recipient of Thrawn McEwok's Squib Creations Limited-Edition Replica Glove of Darth Vader™ "Samuel L. Jackson isn't only a fine actor, but a gamer. He's one of us." ~ Kotaku
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Ashandarei Registered: Oct '04	Date Posted: 2/7/07 3:09pm Subject: RE: Characters that certain authors don't get. - Date Edited: 2/7/07 3:13pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Ashandarei
	BobaMatt posted: Charlemagne19 posted: Timothy Zahn: Darth Vader. He's the second most dangerous man in the universe. But...but..but...Mara Jade is so cool! Right guys? Hahaha. That's the first time I've been able to say "LOL" online and mean it in a while. EDIT for Sephy: He stole my avatar. HE STOLE MY AVATAR!!! Why didn't somebody tell me he had one of those ... things?! -----signature----- What is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger.
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Kwenn Registered: Mar '01	Date Posted: 2/7/07 3:13pm Subject: RE: Characters that certain authors don't get.
	Havac posted: James Luceno: Darth Vader. Darth Vader is an unstoppable juggernaut of destruction and warlord. He is not a whiny pouty guy. Immediately after getting in the suit? I don't think so. He wasn't pouty in Dark Lord either, just getting used to the Sith thing and dealing with the suit and what he'd done. He had to come to terms with the past to turn into the Vader we know. You don't just put him in the suit and that flips a mental switch to "Badass". Although he does seem to flip that switch for his Kashyyyk ownage. Prior to that, yeah, whiny, but I think Luceno treated his character arc respectfully, and at least tried to bridge the 19-year gap better than Lucas managed. BobaMatt posted: Charlemagne19 posted: Jude Watson: Anakin Skywalker is not a puppy torturing psychopath before Episode III. I agree for the most part, but I think Watson's heart's in the right place. It's nice to see that a tendency to abuse power and a sadistic interpretation of justice didn't materialize out of thin air when he gets his Sith name. [/quote] Unfortunately, pretty much every Anakin story, possibly bar that Episode I Adventures comic, has him doing something that's a little on the dark side. Where's the heroic friend Obi-Wan remembered, or the striking, grand figure who took in life with a wink that Anakin himself recalls at the end of his life? -----signature----- "A true Knight, Qui-Gon is. Forever on his own quest." - Yoda, Cloak of Deception
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SephyCloneNo15 Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 2/7/07 3:33pm Subject: RE: Characters that certain authors don't get.
	Ashandarei posted: EDIT for Sephy: He stole my avatar. HE STOLE MY AVATAR!!! Why didn't somebody tell me he had one of those ... things?! You're telling me, my first instinct on opening this thread was I didn't post here yet, did I? Alas, it seems every Avatar I find that I like is bound to be taken by someone else sooner or later. -----signature----- Member: GDG, GMG. Sub-GM: CDG Zam Wessel Lives! Recipient of Thrawn McEwok's Squib Creations Limited-Edition Replica Glove of Darth Vader™ "Samuel L. Jackson isn't only a fine actor, but a gamer. He's one of us." ~ Kotaku
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MistrX Registered: Jun '06	Date Posted: 2/7/07 3:36pm Subject: RE: Characters that certain authors don't get.
	Charlemagne19 posted: Timothy Zahn: Darth Vader. He's the second most dangerous man in the universe. Without having read Allegiance I have to ask, has Zahn written Vader directly? It seems that all we ever get are other characters' former impressions of Vader. Officers who thought he was brutal and scary. Mara who didn't seem to realize just how far the full power of the Force could go. Things like that. -----signature----- We are well and truly forked
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sidious618 Registered: Apr '03	Date Posted: 2/7/07 3:42pm Subject: RE: Characters that certain authors don't get.
	James Luceno: Darth Vader. Darth Vader is an unstoppable juggernaut of destruction and warlord. He is not a whiny pouty guy. Not right after, RotS; he's an emotional mess and Luceno did a fantastic job with him in DL. Timothy Zahn: Darth Vader. He's the second most dangerous man in the universe. Darth Vade is handled very well in Allegiance, I think. He's ready to kill Mara once she gets on her nerves and she says that he can easily do it. Troy Denning: Luke Skywalker is not a vacilliating guy. He rushes headlong into danger, not the opposite. Now you're just being silly. Luke is not going to run headlong into danger when he's the Master of the Jedi Order. -----signature----- But in purple, I'm stunning!- Londo Mollari, Babylon 5
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Ashandarei Registered: Oct '04	Date Posted: 2/7/07 3:46pm Subject: RE: Characters that certain authors don't get.
	SephyCloneNo15 posted: You're telling me, my first instinct on opening this thread was I didn't post here yet, did I? Alas, it seems every Avatar I find that I like is bound to be taken by someone else sooner or later. <-- My gift to you. On topic: Traviss: I have to agree in that I dislike what she made of Boba Fett. I don't believe it's because she didn't get the character, though; I believe it's because she wanted to make him into an actual Mandalorian instead of just a bad-ass guy who wears Mandalorian armor. I like him better as his own person. Stewart: Really just butchered both Yoda and Dooku for me. One of the few SW books that I tried out at the bookstore before buying, and was immensely grateful that I'd done so. Denning: I dislike his treatment of Zekk, though I'm not sure if it originated with Denning. Zekk was a fairly interesting character to me; now he's pretty much "that tall guy who wants Jaina". He seems to be morphing into a distinct person now, though, so maybe it'll be for the best. -----signature----- What is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger.
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Panther50 Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 2/7/07 4:05pm Subject: RE: Characters that certain authors don't get.
	Thats a bit unfair to Denning Zekk was never interesting
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