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The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08 (No Spoilers)
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Rouge77
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Date Posted:
3/6 2:49pm
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RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
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Charlemagne19 posted:
Rouge77 posted:
SA might be Darth Vader's son, but Luke is Anakin Skywalker's son. Only Luke could bring Anakin back, SA couldn't do that.
True, but SA now does have an important place in the Mythos that Lumiya and other's can't match.
I agree with that.
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Charlemagne19
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Date Posted:
3/6 2:53pm
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But yes, I think it boils down to this.
Awesome Percentage
Luke Skywalker at Height: 200%
Emperor Palpatine at DE: 150%
Emperor Palpatine at ROTJ: 100%
Yoda: 90%
Darth Vader: 80%
Obi Wan Kenobi: 80%
Mace Windu: 80%
Jacen Solo: 75%
Revenge of the Sith Anakin: 75%
Secret Apprentice: 75%
Count Dooku: 60%
Darth Maul: 60%
Anakin Skywalker AOTC: 32.5%
Regular Jedi Knight: 15%
Padawan: 10%
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Jmacq1
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Date Posted:
3/6 3:03pm
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Are you talking "total package," purely in terms of force power, or just your personal preferences?
In either case, I'd rank Dooku higher (probably in the 80% range), wouldn't make a call on SA just yet, and sadly, might well rank Kenobi about 5 percent lower, equal to RotS Anakin.
Throw Qui-Gon and Kyle Katarn in around 50-55% and Kyp Durron probably in the 60% range and otherwise I'd say it looks OK.
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Charlemagne19
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Date Posted:
3/6 3:17pm
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Jmacq1 posted:
Are you talking "total package," purely in terms of force power, or just your personal preferences?
In either case, I'd rank Dooku higher (probably in the 80% range), wouldn't make a call on SA just yet, and sadly, might well rank Kenobi about 5 percent lower, equal to RotS Anakin.
Throw Qui-Gon and Kyle Katarn in around 50-55% and Kyp Durron probably in the 60% range and otherwise I'd say it looks OK.
I'm using a general "Pure Force Wattage" description. Darth Vader is one of the most powerful Sith of all time but he can't pull off quite a number of the tricks that other Sith can do (such as Caedus) because he doesn't have the esoteric training. He'll also whoop the floor with a lot of powerful guys simply because he's smarter.
Obi Wan Kenobi by ANH was able to fight Vader to a stand still and later, when possessing Luke, defeated Darth Vader again.
And Dooku is ranked so low because his fight against Anakin became utterly one sided the moment Anakin used the Dark Side.
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Jmacq1
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Date Posted:
3/6 3:31pm
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Charlemagne19 posted:
And Dooku is ranked so low because his fight against Anakin became utterly one sided the moment Anakin used the Dark Side.
Except he completely punked out your highly-ranked Obi-Wan Kenobi both times they met.
Not to mention consistently having the most impressive force-using feats of anyone that isn't named "Yoda" or "Palpatine" in the films.
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Charlemagne19
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3/6 3:39pm
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Jmacq1 posted:
Charlemagne19 posted:
And Dooku is ranked so low because his fight against Anakin became utterly one sided the moment Anakin used the Dark Side.
Except he completely punked out your highly-ranked Obi-Wan Kenobi both times they met.
Not to mention consistently having the most impressive force-using feats of anyone that isn't named "Yoda" or "Palpatine" in the films.
1. Yep, I take that as just one of the qualities of experience over power.
2. I reject the Force Feat system as the enemy of all that is good and holy in fandom ;-)
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3/6 4:40pm
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Charlemagne19 posted:
Jmacq1 posted:
Charlemagne19 posted:
And Dooku is ranked so low because his fight against Anakin became utterly one sided the moment Anakin used the Dark Side.
Except he completely punked out your highly-ranked Obi-Wan Kenobi both times they met.
Not to mention consistently having the most impressive force-using feats of anyone that isn't named "Yoda" or "Palpatine" in the films.
1. Yep, I take that as just one of the qualities of experience over power.
2. I reject the Force Feat system as the enemy of all that is good and holy in fandom ;-)
Clearly, we'll have to agree to disagree:
1. Dooku had both experience and power over Obi-Wan. In case you hadn't noticed, Yoda didn't exactly overpower him in a force-power duel, either. Kenobi's great, but you're overrating him. Even his "third duel" with Vader is highly suspect, as he could very well have been tapping into Luke's potential as much or more so than his own.
2. Why? Because completely arbitrary "I like this character better just because" systems are better?
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Charlemagne19
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2. Why? Because completely arbitrary "I like this character better just because" systems are better?
Because Yoda and Palpatine are both individuals who actively disdain overt displays of the Force.
In other words, the canonically most powerful of all Force users look at people who display Force feats with undisguised contempt.
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SithStarSlayer
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3/6 4:59pm
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If anything, being raised by 'in between trilogies-Vader' entitles the SA to being named Darth "Little Badass", or whatever. It is really no different than what Sidious did with Maul. Perhaps in one of the alternate endings, if you side with Vader and whack Sidious, perhaps you get your Sith name. Or even better, you waste both of them and name yourself. We already know there is a happy-Jedi ending, so I'm just saying...
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3/6 5:09pm
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SithStarSlayer posted:
If anything, being raised by 'in between trilogies-Vader' entitles the SA to being named Darth "Little Badass", or whatever. It is really no different than what Sidious did with Maul. Perhaps in one of the alternate endings, if you side with Vader and whack Sidious, perhaps you get your Sith name. Or even better, you waste both of them and name yourself. We already know there is a happy-Jedi ending, so I'm just saying...
Yes, I'm fairly sure that SA since he's a secret from the Emperor is really a Sith Apprentice.
Uncrowned if you will.
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SithStarSlayer
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3/6 5:15pm
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Just picked up the new Insider, am reading the TFU article now.
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Rouge77
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3/6 5:19pm
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SithStarSlayer posted:
We already know there is a happy-Jedi ending, so I'm just saying...
It will be a real happy Jedi ending: The hero dies and the villains survive.
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SithStarSlayer
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3/6 6:21pm
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There is no death. There is only the Force...
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Insider #100:
The author of the Novel refers to the SA as a Sith Apprentice, repeatedly.
Whitwer said that his character had the potential to be the most powerful Force-adept, ever.
Lots of stuff was hinted at, but nothing really new.
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Rouge77
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SithStarSlayer posted:
Whitwer said that his character had the potential to be the most powerful Force-adept, ever.
Oh dear. 
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Date Posted:
3/6 6:24pm
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My thought, exactly.
Lemme run downstairs and grab it.
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The original prologue which was deleted from the game will be included in the Graphic Novel.
And the rest of Sam's quote on the SA is that "he is in the top tier"(of Force users) and that his growth emotionally was stunted around the age of twelve...
The Felucians look like gumby-witch-doctors that have weird looking machetes growing out their arms.
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