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The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08 (No Spoilers)
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Ulicus
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Jul '05
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Date Posted:
3/11 7:03am
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RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
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Corusca_One posted:
Y'know plenty of 18/19 year olds look older than their age, Sam Witwer dosn't look that old.
He looks older than someone who "looks old" for an 18/19 year old.
Probably because he's thirty. 
Still, that seems to be a tradition of American television. "Let's cast people in their mid twenties as teenagers!"
So, whatever. Personally, I think that he could easily pass for mid twenties, but anything younger is severely pushing it.
Edit: It doesn't help that Hayden and Natalie were both pretty close to the ages of their characters. (I think Hayden was actually exactly the same age as Anakin in both films). If the GFFA had been established as a "television land" where everyone looked older anyway, I wouldn't have a problem with it... but the GFFA has not been established as such.
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Jmacq1
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Date Posted:
3/11 7:34am
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Well, let's bear in mind the kid's probably endured a viciously abusive upbringing and mainlines the Dark Side for most of his life.
I think we can excuse him looking older than he is. :P 
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Oissan
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3/11 8:42am
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I don't see a problem with Witwer's age, being the model for a computer game is different than shooting real footage. They can make him appear younger rather easily. Not to mention that there are plenty of people who look much older (or younger) than they really are. Plus, I don't think that being a darksider and trained killing-machine is a good way to keep a young and healthy look
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Charlemagne19
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3/11 8:43am
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Better hire some people who can act than someone who can't.
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3/11 10:31am
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U got that right.
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Ulicus
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Oissan posted:
I don't see a problem with Witwer's age, being the model for a computer game is different than shooting real footage. They can make him appear younger rather easily.
Point.
I keep forgetting that there are no truly "live action" cutscenes in this.
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3/11 12:49pm
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Ulicus posted:
The same stuff said that the reason he is so powerful is because he is the son of "two Jedi"....
Urg.
Yeah, I don't know if that really works... all it takes to reach Chosen One levels is getting two Jedi to mate?  Kind of downplays Vader's usefulness, doesn't it?
And we already know Luke has potential equal to Anakin's, even though Luke's mother was no Jedi...
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Arawn_Fenn posted:
And we already know Luke has potential equal to Anakin's, even though Luke's mother was no Jedi...
But that plays into their hands. If he's got all the potential of one parent then... OMG if he'd had ANOTHER Jedi parent, he'd have had even MORE!
OMGZ!
Though of course, we don't know Luke has potential equal to Anakin's at all. Lucas' quote, taken as stated, means only that Luke can become more powerful than the Emperor. 
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DarkScythe
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3/11 12:53pm
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Arawn_Fenn posted:
Ulicus posted:
The same stuff said that the reason he is so powerful is because he is the son of "two Jedi"....
Urg.
Yeah, I don't know if that really works... all it takes to reach Chosen One levels is getting two Jedi to mate? Kind of downplays Vader's usefulness, doesn't it?
And we already know Luke has potential equal to Anakin's, even though Luke's mother was no Jedi...
Personally I take it like others have said. Two Force sensetive parents equals higher chance of getting those ultra Rare force sensetives like Mace, Kyp or Palpatine himself. No where near Chosen One level Potential but as close as naturally possible.
It would also explain Vader plans for Hethrir's child, expecting him to potentially be more powerful than either of his parents.
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Charlemagne19
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Arawn_Fenn posted:
Yeah, I don't know if that really works... all it takes to reach Chosen One levels is getting two Jedi to mate? Kind of downplays Vader's usefulness, doesn't it?
And we already know Luke has potential equal to Anakin's, even though Luke's mother was no Jedi...
I don't know, I don't think there's anything wrong with the idea that two Jedi mating produces an exceptionally force strong child either.
Let's face it, Jean Grey and Cyclops have been producing X-man/Cabal/Rachel Summers amongst other Demigods for how knows long.
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DarkScythe
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3/11 12:55pm
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Charlemagne19 posted:
Arawn_Fenn posted:
Yeah, I don't know if that really works... all it takes to reach Chosen One levels is getting two Jedi to mate? Kind of downplays Vader's usefulness, doesn't it?
And we already know Luke has potential equal to Anakin's, even though Luke's mother was no Jedi...
I don't know, I don't think there's anything wrong with the idea that two Jedi mating produces an exceptionally force strong child either.
Let's face it, Jean Grey and Cyclops have been producing X-man/Cabal/Rachel Summers amongst other Demigods for how knows long.
Problem with that as an example is by Current Canon Jean is a demi-god level mutant herself.
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Charlemagne19
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Date Posted:
3/11 1:05pm
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DarkScythe posted:
Problem with that as an example is by Current Canon Jean is a demi-god level mutant herself.
Yes, but they killed Kitty so anything that's current canon right now is utter **** in my eyes.
;-)
Overall, I still think that there's no problem with the SA inheriting the best elements of his parents and being an A+ level Force Sensitive like Mace Windu/Palpatine/Yoda are. They're the kinds of naturally occurring force sensitives (Mace Windu, I point out hailing from a force sensitive culture) that are the best of the best.
...that occur naturally.
But it's the 15 years of training by the Chosen One plus the Dark Side plus Banite Sith training that make him THAT good.
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Date Posted:
3/11 1:05pm
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I like to think of Force sensitivity as working pretty much the same as the dwarfism gene - it is perhaps more likely is your parents have it, but that doesn't mean by any stretch that you'll definitely have it, and it certainly doesn't mean you'll have more of it. Two little people wouldn't have a baby that's four inches tall. That's a big aspect of "powers" fiction in general (and mutants in particular) that annoys me, because it doesn't really line up with actual genetics - both of my parents are white, that doesn't make me ultra-white. I accomplished that myself, thank you very much.
Edit: they killed Kitty?? WTK?? All I read is Astonishing; was this is Messiah Complex?
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Ulicus posted:
Arawn_Fenn posted:
And we already know Luke has potential equal to Anakin's, even though Luke's mother was no Jedi...
But that plays into their hands. If he's got all the potential of one parent then... OMG if he'd had ANOTHER Jedi parent, he'd have had even MORE!
OMGZ!
Though of course, we don't know Luke has potential equal to Anakin's at all. Lucas' quote, taken as stated, means only that Luke can become more powerful than the Emperor.
IIRC, Luke's potential is referred to as "perhaps beyond measure" in Dark Lord, for whatever that's worth.
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DarkScythe
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3/11 1:10pm
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Charlemagne19 posted:
DarkScythe posted:
Problem with that as an example is by Current Canon Jean is a demi-god level mutant herself.
Yes, but they killed Kitty so anything that's current canon right now is utter **** in my eyes.
;-)
Overall, I still think that there's no problem with the SA inheriting the best elements of his parents and being an A+ level Force Sensitive like Mace Windu/Palpatine/Yoda are. They're the kinds of naturally occurring force sensitives (Mace Windu, I point out hailing from a force sensitive culture) that are the best of the best.
...that occur naturally.
But it's the 15 years of training by the Chosen One plus the Dark Side plus Banite Sith training that make him THAT good.
Jean being an uber mutant has been around for awhile now at least since X-men forever though heavily implied even before that. Though I agee about the current canon being crap. (Whedon should never have been aloud to touch the X-men comics IMO)
I agree a high level force sensetive that was trained by Vader and pushed to go beyond his limits constantly would be insanely powerful.
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