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The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
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Charlemagne19
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3/12 11:38am
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RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
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BobaMatt posted:
Is there anyone actually advocating that the SA should be considered more powerful than Vader?
I think the question is how powerful SA should be by comparison.
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SithStarSlayer
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3/12 1:02pm
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He shouldn't even come close to stepping on Vader's cape.
When I first saw the spoiler-pic of the action figure, I was hoping that Vader got all jacked-up from yanking the Death Star out of orbit and not being able to stop it once it started rolling...
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Charlemagne19
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3/12 1:03pm
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SithStarSlayer posted:
He shouldn't even come close to stepping on Vader's cape.
So...Darth Vader's APPRENTICE and ADOPTED SON shouldn't be able to do anything?
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BobaMatt
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3/12 1:08pm
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RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
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Jmacq1 posted:
No, it's mostly thus-far unfounded complaints about something that hasn't happened yet (the presumption that the Secret Apprentice will defeat Vader at the end of the game).
That's what I thought.
Jmacq1 posted:
Admittedly, the presumption seems pretty likely if the "Battle Damaged Darth Vader" figure that accompanies the toy line is any indication.
Well, we don't know Vader gets battle damaged fighting the SA...of course, if the SA does end up winning, does that necessarily mean he's more powerful? I shouldn't think so...
Jmacq1 posted:
Not to mention the fact that we've already seen the SA perform a trick with the Force that Vader's never even come close to matching (the yanking down of yon Star Destroyer).
Have we ever seen Vader try?
Jmacq1 posted:
Plus there have actually been multiple comments from earlier in the game's development mentioning the Secret Apprentice "becoming more powerful than Vader and the Emperor." However as I recall the comments are not from sources that have any sort of "final say" on canon events, and from what I've seen a good bit of that talk has been toned down in more recent months.
That always sounded like certain-point-of-view sort of stuff. Obi-Wan became more powerful than Vader or the Emperor could possibly imagine, remember? And the light side is stronger than the dark side?
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SithStarSlayer
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Date Posted:
3/12 1:41pm
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Charlemagne19 posted:
SithStarSlayer posted:
He shouldn't even come close to stepping on Vader's cape.
So...Darth Vader's APPRENTICE and ADOPTED SON shouldn't be able to do anything?
Stepping on the ICON's cape, and doing anything (of merit) are two different things. He should do something; and whatever THAT is, shouldn't be done at the expense of OT Vader's mystique. The PT has done enough of that already.
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TogashiAikune
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3/12 7:46pm
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Jmacq1 posted:
No, it's mostly thus-far unfounded complaints about something that hasn't happened yet (the presumption that the Secret Apprentice will defeat Vader at the end of the game). Admittedly, the presumption seems pretty likely if the "Battle Damaged Darth Vader" figure that accompanies the toy line is any indication.
The Battle-Damaged Vader figure may have nothing to do with the SA. According to the cardback, Vader is damaged during a fight aboard the Death Star with the newfound Rebel Alliance.
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IcePirate
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Date Posted:
3/12 9:53pm
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TogashiAikune posted:
Jmacq1 posted:
No, it's mostly thus-far unfounded complaints about something that hasn't happened yet (the presumption that the Secret Apprentice will defeat Vader at the end of the game). Admittedly, the presumption seems pretty likely if the "Battle Damaged Darth Vader" figure that accompanies the toy line is any indication.
The Battle-Damaged Vader figure may have nothing to do with the SA. According to the cardback, Vader is damaged during a fight aboard the Death Star with the newfound Rebel Alliance.
if i lived in san fran.... i'd pay a bunch of little kids to picket lucasarts with signs that say things like "stop wussyfying vader". why little kids? their cheap (you could pay them in ice cream), it's kinda funny to see little kids doing crap like that, etc.
anyways, back on topic...
what happened to palps calling it an "insignificant" uprising? exactly how inept is the empire (personally, i like to think they aren't, but with the death star having been compromised so many times, i'm amazed it blew up alderaan)? battle damaged vader better have a darned good reason to be battle damaged.
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Jmacq1
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Date Posted:
3/13 4:45am
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TogashiAikune posted:
Jmacq1 posted:
No, it's mostly thus-far unfounded complaints about something that hasn't happened yet (the presumption that the Secret Apprentice will defeat Vader at the end of the game). Admittedly, the presumption seems pretty likely if the "Battle Damaged Darth Vader" figure that accompanies the toy line is any indication.
The Battle-Damaged Vader figure may have nothing to do with the SA. According to the cardback, Vader is damaged during a fight aboard the Death Star with the newfound Rebel Alliance.
That may be true. Maybe if they hit him head-on with a plex missile and he comes charging out of the explosion to cut them all down...and -then- the SA fights and beats a severely wounded/damaged Vader (albeit by the skin of his teeth) I could buy it. That'd still leave Vader badass while allowing him to be defeated.
Though it doesn't help the other problem that's just brought up, what with the Rebels having way too much interplay with the Death Star before ANH.
Unless the SA/Juno Eclipse's group is a resistance group independent of the real "Rebel Alliance" and basically gets wiped out to the last man/woman.
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SithStarSlayer
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3/13 5:11am
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IcePirate posted:
if I lived in san fran.... i'd pay a bunch of little kids to picket lucasarts with signs that say things like "stop wussyfying vader".
QFT. Maybe if you dressed them all like this:  MAYBE they would get the message.
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3/13 5:43am
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Jmacq1 posted:
That may be true. Maybe if they hit him head-on with a plex missile and he comes charging out of the explosion to cut them all down...and -then- the SA fights and beats a severely wounded/damaged Vader (albeit by the skin of his teeth) I could buy it. That'd still leave Vader badass while allowing him to be defeated.
Indeed.
Currently I'm taking solace in the fact that Vader doesn't look like he's been "battle damaged" by a lightsaber.
Jmacq1 posted:
Though it doesn't help the other problem that's just brought up, what with the Rebels having way too much interplay with the Death Star before ANH.
Unless the SA/Juno Eclipse's group is a resistance group independent of the real "Rebel Alliance" and basically gets wiped out to the last man/woman.
That'd be a good way of doing it.
Would it, perhaps, be possible to retcon Vader's: "There'll be no-one to stop us this time" into a reference to the Secret Apprentice and/or his band of merry men? Or is there already an explanation for that?
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Jmacq1
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3/13 6:37am
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Ulicus posted:
Jmacq1 posted:
That may be true. Maybe if they hit him head-on with a plex missile and he comes charging out of the explosion to cut them all down...and -then- the SA fights and beats a severely wounded/damaged Vader (albeit by the skin of his teeth) I could buy it. That'd still leave Vader badass while allowing him to be defeated.
Indeed.
Currently I'm taking solace in the fact that Vader doesn't look like he's been "battle damaged" by a lightsaber.
Jmacq1 posted:
Though it doesn't help the other problem that's just brought up, what with the Rebels having way too much interplay with the Death Star before ANH.
Unless the SA/Juno Eclipse's group is a resistance group independent of the real "Rebel Alliance" and basically gets wiped out to the last man/woman.
That'd be a good way of doing it.
Would it, perhaps, be possible to retcon Vader's: "There'll be no-one to stop us this time" into a reference to the Secret Apprentice and/or his band of merry men? Or is there already an explanation for that?
Oooooh, good catch, and I don't think it's been explained (unless it was an offhand reference to Senate interference in his activities prior to that point). That'd be a fantastic retcon/tie-in ala the "Obi-Wan can no longer help him" line in ESB.
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SithStarSlayer
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Date Posted:
3/13 2:06pm
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1up.com reported:
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (Xbox 360)
Release Date: 09/09/2008
But Amazon says:
This item will be released on Jul 29, 2008.
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Jmacq1
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SithStarSlayer posted:
1up.com reported:
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (Xbox 360)
Release Date: 09/09/2008
But Amazon says:
This item will be released on Jul 29, 2008.
I'm very confident Amazon will revise their date to the 9/9 one in the next couple of days.
Call it a hunch. 
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SithStarSlayer
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They did good with Sidious' game version, IMO.
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3/13 3:21pm
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Jmacq1 posted:
Though it doesn't help the other problem that's just brought up, what with the Rebels having way too much interplay with the Death Star before ANH.
Battlefront II included that as well.
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