BobaMatt posted: Is there anyone actually advocating that the SA should be considered more powerful than Vader?
SithStarSlayer posted:He shouldn't even come close to stepping on Vader's cape.
Jmacq1 posted:No, it's mostly thus-far unfounded complaints about something that hasn't happened yet (the presumption that the Secret Apprentice will defeat Vader at the end of the game).
Jmacq1 posted:Admittedly, the presumption seems pretty likely if the "Battle Damaged Darth Vader" figure that accompanies the toy line is any indication.
Jmacq1 posted:Not to mention the fact that we've already seen the SA perform a trick with the Force that Vader's never even come close to matching (the yanking down of yon Star Destroyer).
Jmacq1 posted:Plus there have actually been multiple comments from earlier in the game's development mentioning the Secret Apprentice "becoming more powerful than Vader and the Emperor." However as I recall the comments are not from sources that have any sort of "final say" on canon events, and from what I've seen a good bit of that talk has been toned down in more recent months.
Charlemagne19 posted:SithStarSlayer posted:He shouldn't even come close to stepping on Vader's cape.So...Darth Vader's APPRENTICE and ADOPTED SON shouldn't be able to do anything?
Jmacq1 posted: No, it's mostly thus-far unfounded complaints about something that hasn't happened yet (the presumption that the Secret Apprentice will defeat Vader at the end of the game). Admittedly, the presumption seems pretty likely if the "Battle Damaged Darth Vader" figure that accompanies the toy line is any indication.
TogashiAikune posted:Jmacq1 posted: No, it's mostly thus-far unfounded complaints about something that hasn't happened yet (the presumption that the Secret Apprentice will defeat Vader at the end of the game). Admittedly, the presumption seems pretty likely if the "Battle Damaged Darth Vader" figure that accompanies the toy line is any indication. The Battle-Damaged Vader figure may have nothing to do with the SA. According to the cardback, Vader is damaged during a fight aboard the Death Star with the newfound Rebel Alliance.
IcePirate posted: if I lived in san fran.... i'd pay a bunch of little kids to picket lucasarts with signs that say things like "stop wussyfying vader".
Jmacq1 posted: That may be true. Maybe if they hit him head-on with a plex missile and he comes charging out of the explosion to cut them all down...and -then- the SA fights and beats a severely wounded/damaged Vader (albeit by the skin of his teeth) I could buy it. That'd still leave Vader badass while allowing him to be defeated.
Jmacq1 posted: Though it doesn't help the other problem that's just brought up, what with the Rebels having way too much interplay with the Death Star before ANH. Unless the SA/Juno Eclipse's group is a resistance group independent of the real "Rebel Alliance" and basically gets wiped out to the last man/woman.
Ulicus posted:Jmacq1 posted: That may be true. Maybe if they hit him head-on with a plex missile and he comes charging out of the explosion to cut them all down...and -then- the SA fights and beats a severely wounded/damaged Vader (albeit by the skin of his teeth) I could buy it. That'd still leave Vader badass while allowing him to be defeated. Indeed. Currently I'm taking solace in the fact that Vader doesn't look like he's been "battle damaged" by a lightsaber. Jmacq1 posted: Though it doesn't help the other problem that's just brought up, what with the Rebels having way too much interplay with the Death Star before ANH. Unless the SA/Juno Eclipse's group is a resistance group independent of the real "Rebel Alliance" and basically gets wiped out to the last man/woman. That'd be a good way of doing it. Would it, perhaps, be possible to retcon Vader's: "There'll be no-one to stop us this time" into a reference to the Secret Apprentice and/or his band of merry men? Or is there already an explanation for that?
SithStarSlayer posted:1up.com reported: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (Xbox 360) Release Date: 09/09/2008 But Amazon says: This item will be released on Jul 29, 2008.
Jmacq1 posted:Though it doesn't help the other problem that's just brought up, what with the Rebels having way too much interplay with the Death Star before ANH.