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The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08 (No Spoilers)
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maderic
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4/16 7:41am
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RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
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blaXXer posted:
Still no word of a PC version, eh? Damn I'm hating this...
No PC version because they'd make too much sense. LucasArts is about being illogical.
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SithStarSlayer
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Date Posted:
4/16 7:50am
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RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
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Yep. They won't even include a 'Player-Versus-Computer' for the Wii duel-mode.
I don't own a Wii, so I could care less, but it goes to show how shortsighted they can be.
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BobaMatt posted:
Or maybe box-art and book covers are a bad thing to usually base impressions on?!
There is no impression. There is only a picture and quote.
"Darth Vader's Secret Apprentice embarks on an epic journey... blah, blah, blah... to ultimately confronting his FORMER Master."
Pictures may be worth a thousand words, but marketing blurbs are priceless.
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BobaMatt
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4/16 7:55am
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Marketing blurbs are as reliable as the backs of book covers, i.e. not particularly so. However, I would think the idea that you're going to confront Vader in some fashion has been obvious since the beginning.
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Charlii
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Date Posted:
4/16 7:58am
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Considering this game is not being released for every platform imaginable apart from the PC it is starting to get frustrating. My guess is that a Win/Mac port will be announced soon, with a release date about half a year after the main one.
And I want an iPhone port, for pants sake!
Then we'd only need Linux, Windows Mobile, Palm and iPod in order for this game to be playable on every gadget currently on sale that supports 3rd-party software! 
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SithStarSlayer
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I didn't say they were reliable, I said that they were priceless. 
The reps can say whatever they want, I've already proven that Leland was talking out the side of his neck when I posted the final-concept-art scans of Phobos and Desolous. So if Phobas didn't exist as they claimed, then why should we listen to them now with regards to how it ends? Of course they are going to deny anything involving Vader and the end, they have to.
What I really liked, was seeing that Sidious was present and actively involved as they dueled.
I was saving that part...
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Ulicus
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4/16 8:47am
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BobaMatt posted:
Or maybe box-art and book covers are a bad thing to usually base impressions on?!
Was that directed at me?
I'd be really suprised if Vader and the SA didn't face off. Concept art, box art, the blurb... I can't imagine they'd all be making the confrontation up.
Anyway, as usual, the game itself look awesome... (and increasingly DMCish) even if that interviewer really grates. I'm still a little wary about the premise of the storyline, especially since the comic's opening is very "meh", but I'll see how it goes.
I'm very pleased to hear that Vader isn't using Force Lightning in his segment of the game. We won't have anyone dismissing what he does as game mechanics, at least. 
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4/16 8:54am
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Just to clarify, Phobos is the Holocron, and Desolous her apprentice?
Intriguing. That wouldn't be too hard to retcon, actually. During Operation Knightfall, a Jedi attempts to conceal himself in the Jedi Temple, hiding a Sith Holocron from the library so Anakin Skywalker doesn't discover it. The Holocron manipulates the Jedi, moulding the Jedi into her new apprentice, which Vader finds out about.
Vader sends his Secret Apprentice to deal with this minor threat, him having to contend with the fallen Jedi and the Holocron. An ideal opportunity to train his Secret Apprentice.
As a final note, Vader started training his Secret Apprentice in 18 BBY, per JvS. Not sure if that's been mentioned, or forgotten.
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Ulicus
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Sinrebirth posted:
Just to clarify, Phobos is the Holocron, and Desolous her apprentice?
They're both holocrons/projections, as far as I'm aware.
Of Darth Desolous it is said over a thousand Jedi died screaming his name. The implication is that he's NSW or Ancient Era.
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Jango_Fettish
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4/16 9:07am
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Ulicus posted:
I'm very pleased to hear that Vader isn't using Force Lightning in his segment of the game. We won't have anyone dismissing what he does as game mechanics, at least.
Yeah, thats pretty sweet - if he isn't throwing lightning, I won't be dismissing anything he does 
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Zorrixor
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maderic posted:
blaXXer posted:
Still no word of a PC version, eh? Damn I'm hating this...
No PC version because they'd make too much sense. LucasArts is about being illogical.
I'm still expecting a PC release announcement, say, early 2009. Its their usual strategy. Milk the consoles for all they're worth first, then release a director's cut PC version with a few extras and mod options six months later. With how multi platform this game is, there should be no reason why it can't be ported to the PC, as its control scheme is not inherently based around a particular console setup (e.g. some Wii games would genuinely be impossible to port).
I'll eat my hat if we don't have a PC version Summer 09. I just cannot see them passing up the opportunity. Just, likewise, they don't want to pass up the console opportunity either. They'll trick us into buying multiple versions first, say the 360, Wii and PS2 versions, in order to experience all the features, then in six months time they'll release a PC version that has it all.
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Yep. They won't even include a 'Player-Versus-Computer' for the Wii duel-mode.
I don't own a Wii, so I could care less, but it goes to show how shortsighted they can be.
Didn't they say they aren't even giving the Wii online MP support? I think in one of the interviews they said they thought it was better if people could mock each other in the same room and that online would lose all the fun. 
It just sounded like a lame excuse not to configure it to support online play. 
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BobaMatt
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4/16 11:29pm
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Sinrebirth posted:
As a final note, Vader started training his Secret Apprentice in 18 BBY, per JvS. Not sure if that's been mentioned, or forgotten.
Interesting...I guess that's not right after RotS, after all.
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SithStarSlayer
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You were right BobaMatt, the package art for the SA's saber is not worthy of any speculation. The quote for the SA's showdown doesn't appear on that box and the Artwork that does, is more along the lines of being some sort of a tribute to Ralph McQuarrie than anything else.
What I now wonder is if Vader and the SA actually duel on that platform/chunk of debri that seems to be controlled by the Force. That would be most difficult to stay-on, for the duration of our final duel...
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SithStarSlayer posted:
Yep. They won't even include a 'Player-Versus-Computer' for the Wii duel-mode.
...that's just stupid. Oh well, at least I'm saving another $100...
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BobaMatt
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4/17 10:31am
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SithStarSlayer posted:
You were right BobaMatt, the package art for the SA's saber is not worthy of any speculation. The quote for the SA's showdown doesn't appear on that box and the Artwork that does, is more along the lines of being some sort of a tribute to Ralph McQuarrie than anything else.
What I now wonder is if Vader and the SA actually duel on that platform/chunk of debri that seems to be controlled by the Force. That would be most difficult to stay-on, for the duration of our final duel...
I'd be surprised if they didn't throw down in some capacity, I'm just saying there's no point in drawing conclusions from the box, yet.
And the platform dealie would only be hard if it wasn't fighting game ring style, where if you begin to reach the edge, you automatically start to move left or right...
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SithStarSlayer
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4/17 6:25pm
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Ok, here are the latest sliver's of info to debate, keep in mind Sidious is the one they are protecting:
"Emperor Palpatine has built army of loyal servants, including Darth Vader his powerful enforcer and most trusted servant, and the Force-wielding Shadow Guards who carry pikes with Lightsaber-like blades. These dark guardians must prove their loyalty and combat skills when they face an assault from the Rebel Alliance, leaving Vader badly damaged."
Which we know from previous spoilers that it takes place onboard the Death Star.
Anybody have a problem with any of that?
And now to the ending:
"...the Apprentice must choose his destiny.
Join Vader and wipe out the remaining Jedi, or become a noble Jedi and bring hope to the Galaxy."
My money is on the SA doin the obvious, hebecomes a Jedi, but never meets Ben, at some point visits Yoda and then as we know, escapes the showdown with Vader. The sequel will take place after ESB, so that when Yoda tells Kenobi's ghost, "No. There is another...", Ben doesn't look like such an idiot for looking genuinely surprised. 
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