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BobaMatt
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5/18 1:30pm
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Ulicus posted:
Actually, thinking about it, wouldn't Mira (KotOR II) be the first Mandalorian Jedi? Why hasn't anyone ever made anything of that?
Well, I mean...Kad'ika is a Mandalorian Jedi with no loyalties and an ambiguous Force alignment who wields two lightsabers. It's too bad those lightsabers are blue, not black.
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yodaminch
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Pretty big spoiler regarding the end of the first Secret Apprentice mission courtesy of Mousedroid.com
Midway thru the battle Kota plays his hand and the station explodes sending the section you are in hurtling towards the planet, upside down. With the ceiling, now your floor it you must work quickly to kill Kota before you enter the planet’s atmosphere. Once in the atmosphere the glass floor superheats and is not safe to stand on. Several sequences of some well choreographed finishing moves are also available, and it is a matter of sometimes 8-9 correct control combination that will win the day. Finally, having bested Kota another plot point is exposed, a force vision form Kota…”Vader won’t always be your master!”
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Zorrixor
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yodaminch posted:
Pretty big spoiler regarding the end of the first Secret Apprentice mission courtesy of Mousedroid.com
Midway thru the battle Kota plays his hand and the station explodes sending the section you are in hurtling towards the planet, upside down. With the ceiling, now your floor it you must work quickly to kill Kota before you enter the planet’s atmosphere. Once in the atmosphere the glass floor superheats and is not safe to stand on. Several sequences of some well choreographed finishing moves are also available, and it is a matter of sometimes 8-9 correct control combination that will win the day. Finally, having bested Kota another plot point is exposed, a force vision form Kota…”Vader won’t always be your master!”
Ah... so Kota mentors you as a ghost? So obvious and yet surprisingly I don't think anyone thought of it. Heh. 
The button hitting sequence sounds a lot like Heavenly Sword (which I'm sure was probably a lot like something else but I just know it from HS).
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MSE6
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Thanks for reading....a bit more info (SPOILER)
You don't actually see Kota die...he is badly damaged, force crushed/pushed thru the glass floor, and free falls to the planet...but you don't see him die.
The end moves are really very very good. Kind like a good choreographed fight sequence.
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Ulicus
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Oh, so the SA is 4 or 5 when Vader picks him up? 
Consider me scaled back all the way to "unhappy with what we know of the story". Oh well, at least the gameplay looks like a lot of fun.
I don't understand why a boy Vader has raised from such a young age can't grasp the basics of referring to him as "Lord" Vader. It also think it's kinda stupid that Vader would think it was possible to hide such an apprentice from Sidious so early into his career.  
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BobaMatt
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Not sure what you're talking about with the whole "Lord" thing, but that sort of arrogance was not uncharacteristic of Anakin Skywalker, and it makes even more sense in light of the fact that he's already had experience training a padawan, and, well...I mean it worked just fine for, like, over ten years, apparently.
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Ulicus
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BobaMatt posted:
Not sure what you're talking about with the whole "Lord" thing
In the leaked pages of the comic, Rhett is throwing around "Vader" rather than "Lord Vader". I thought he was supposed to be Vader's apprentice? Not only that, but he's an individual raised by Vader from the age of 4-5. It defies belief that Vader wouldn't have beaten such insubordination out of him at an early age.
I was getting a little more excited when it looked like Vader had picked Rhett up in his early teens, because that was an adequate explanation as to why Rhett came across as so... I don't know, "disrespectful" to Vader.
I expected - and hoped - for Rhett to begin almost as a Darth Maul type of character. Instead he's... a brat.
BobaMatt posted:
but that sort of arrogance was not uncharacteristic of Anakin Skywalker, and it makes even more sense in light of the fact that he's already had experience training a padawan
On the flipside, Anakin knows where his arrogant got him last time: where he is now. I can't imagine he'd be so willing to risk his life so soon into his own apprenticeship.
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and, well...I mean it worked just fine for, like, over ten years, apparently.
Really? I can't imagine the Emperor didn't know almost from the outset. Nor can I imagine that Vader would be so stupid as to think he could keep such an apprentice hidden from the Emperor.
With any luck, that will be a plot point. Vader's using Starkiller as a trial run to see how much he *can* keep hidden from the Emperor. If he can use Rhett in his quest to topple Palpatine, great, but he shouldn't be expecting it.
Edit: Though, despite my renewed pessimism, I have a TFU wallpaper at the moment. I can't deny that it looks really cool. There's also the possibility that I'm deliberately regressing because Hydro pointed out that I seemed less opposed to TFU than I had previously, and I thought it was a betrayal of my values.
Moving on, regarding "STARKILLER" as the SA's name. Are folks hoping that this is a real name, or a code name?
I'm hoping for "Kane Starkiller" as his full name. (Making his father "Kento Starkiller") Though that doesn't mean I want "Kane Skywalker" as Kol's father any less. 
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Zorrixor
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I'm expecting it to be the codename.
Though given it sounds like he leaves Vader's service by the third level its going to make the codename a pretty short lived thing. 
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Ulicus posted:
In the leaked pages of the comic, Rhett is throwing around "Vader" rather than "Lord Vader". I thought he was supposed to be Vader's apprentice? Not only that, but he's an individual raised by Vader from the age of 4-5. It defies belief that Vader wouldn't have beaten such insubordination out of him at an early age.
Really? He calls Vader Vader to Vader's face? Wow.
Ulicus posted:
On the flipside, Anakin knows where his arrogant got him last time: where he is now. I can't imagine he'd be so willing to risk his life so soon into his own apprenticeship.
He hasn't risked his life: all the Emperor requests of him is that he kill his apprentice. We should probably also remember how much Vader hates his position. Perhaps this failure will show us why he has to obey his master, as he tells Luke? Because Palpatine's omniscient!
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With any luck, that will be a plot point. Vader's using Starkiller as a trial run to see how much he *can* keep hidden from the Emperor. If he can use Rhett in his quest to topple Palpatine, great, but he shouldn't be expecting it.
I like it.
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Moving on, regarding "STARKILLER" as the SA's name. Are folks hoping that this is a real name, or a code name?
I believe the soon to be revealed S name was said to be his codename.
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Ulicus
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BobaMatt posted:
Really? He calls Vader Vader to Vader's face? Wow.
No, not to his face. If he did that I'd actually be livid.
That doesn't mean it grates any less.
Especially since Juno is there saying: "Lord Vader". Sure, maybe he's just trying to make himself seem more important: "I don't have to call him lord, nyah" Either way, it's annoying and brattish. Darth Vader raised him. He should be *utterly* twisted, dark and fearful of his master. He shouldn't be a know-it-all brat.
The tone of this game seems... too light, considering the subject matter. Someone raised in the dark side from the age of five should be *utterly* twisted and evil. Instead he's... bleh.
Still, I'm only basing this off a couple of pages. This is my reaction to those pages specifically.
BobaMatt posted:
He hasn't risked his life: all the Emperor requests of him is that he kill his apprentice.
Sure, and Vader's really lucky that's all that happened and probably went back to his chamber to count his blessings.
BobaMatt posted:
We should probably also remember how much Vader hates his position. Perhaps this failure will show us why he has to obey his master, as he tells Luke? Because Palpatine's omniscient!
Hopefully.
At least Vader takes him on when he's still a bit of a newbie.
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Ulicus posted:
BobaMatt posted:
He hasn't risked his life: all the Emperor requests of him is that he kill his apprentice.
Sure, and Vader's really lucky that's all that happened and probably went back to his chamber to count his blessings.
Perhaps. I think it's equally likely that Vader knows where he stands. Furthermore, Sith apprentices are supposed to find ways to kill their master. Ambition is not a bad thing for them, and let's not forget that Rhett's not the last apprentice that Vader's forced to give up - he gives Lumiya to the Emperor when the Emperor begins to realize that he's training her. Being made to slay his apprentice is humiliating, it's a demonstration of the time and effort wasted, and it says, "Nice try. Better luck next time."
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^ True, true.
I still kinda wish this game had been *about* Lumiya.
Oh well. There's always number 2. 
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That'd be cool, even if it were just so we got a female lead character in a videogame.
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Ulicus posted:
The tone of this game seems... too light, considering the subject matter. Someone raised in the dark side from the age of five should be *utterly* twisted and evil. Instead he's... bleh.
I've said from the start I always thought there was something funny about TFU considering they supposedly swore off a TIE Fighter sequel because Lucas wasn't happy with games where you played as the bad guys. I was always confused with how they managed to slip TFU through the net.
I guess now we know. They didn't. Not after the first couple of levels. Meh. 
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BobaMatt
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I've been sort of worried about tone since I first saw the webdoc where they introduce the characters, and they discuss the SA's reaction to Juno Eclipse. It seemed odd to me that a potential Dark Lord of the Sith, raised from childhood in the ways of the dark side, would find himself twitter-pated.
Oh well. I just hope the naughtiness lasts a while before embarking on the path to - ugh - good.
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