Author Topic: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08 (and beyond?)
LtNOWIS  2481 posts
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Date Posted: 9/19/07 9:15pm Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
Charlemagne19 posted:

This is Star Wars. Anti-heroes need not apply.


What about pre-Alliance Han, the subject of 6 novels?

 

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Charlemagne19  26817 posts
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Date Posted: 9/19/07 9:55pm Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
LtNOWIS posted:
Charlemagne19 posted:

This is Star Wars. Anti-heroes need not apply.


What about pre-Alliance Han, the subject of 6 novels?


You mean the Han Solo that rescued all those people for free in the Corporate Sector or the Han Solo that rescued Chewbacca from slavery at the cost of his career?

Han's never been particularly altruistic but he's always been on the side of Angels when push comes to shove.

 

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Jmacq1  1730 posts
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Date Posted: 9/20/07 4:19am Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
Charlemagne19 posted:
GrandAdmiralJello posted:
Speaking of Redemption, I hope there is a way to not be redeemed... and to servat imperiam super omnes alteras.


Yes, but it won't be canon.

It'll be the Emperor Katarn ending I'm sure.



Yeah, there are multiple possible endings to the game, but only one canon ending (which I'd long suspected would involve a redeemed apprentice). I'd imagine at least one ending is probably the Apprentice killing off the Emperor on Vader's behalf, and possibly another that reverses that scenario (The Apprentice killing Vader for the Emperor).

But it figures that they couldn't get through a major multimedia release with a main (playable) character that would stay Darkside the whole way through (or not have the possibility of redemption). That's just not Lucas' style.

 

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SephyCloneNo15  6880 posts
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Date Posted: 9/20/07 6:01am Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
GrandAdmiralJello posted:
Speaking of Redemption, I hope there is a way to not be redeemed... and to servat imperiam super omnes alteras.


Perhaps they'll find a way to make your canon redemption involving betraying that treacherous sleemo, Vader and bowing to the True Emperor? tongue

 

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Darth_Shpydar  1061 posts
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Date Posted: 9/20/07 6:30am Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
Haven't watched the new video yet, so if it says something different, then never mind ...

Even though "redemption" is the theme of the game, isn't it possible that the canon ending could be a failed redemption of the SA? I'd expect LFL would probably go with a happy-redemption ending (or perhaps a sacrifice/redemption ending) for canon, but what are peoples thoughts on a failed redemption ending? For example, let's say Samurai Jedi tries to bring SA (back?) to the light, SA does not go light, but in the end is betrayed/murdered by Vader/Palps. Like i said, i kind of doubt LFL would go that route, but i suppose it's at least a possible ending, even if not a canon one.

Meanwhile, out of curiousity, for those of us that are gamers, are you going to play through the game first, or read the novel and/or comic first? I personally haven't decided myself; it'll probably depend on whether i'm already in the middle of another book, or another game, when it comes out.

 

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dgxxx  211 posts
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Date Posted: 9/20/07 6:45am Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
I think at the end of the game the SA will be redeemed and try to do the right thing thats when you play as Vader to kill him, I´ll like that kind of ending.

Also anyone knows what is the part of Maris Brood in the story?

 

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Zorrixor  4390 posts
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Date Posted: 9/20/07 6:46am Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08 - Date Edited: 9/20/07 6:47am (1 edits total) Edited By: Zorrixor
Darth_Shpydar posted:
Haven't watched the new video yet, so if it says something different, then never mind ...

Even though "redemption" is the theme of the game, isn't it possible that the canon ending could be a failed redemption of the SA? I'd expect LFL would probably go with a happy-redemption ending (or perhaps a sacrifice/redemption ending) for canon, but what are peoples thoughts on a failed redemption ending? For example, let's say Samurai Jedi tries to bring SA (back?) to the light, SA does not go light, but in the end is betrayed/murdered by Vader/Palps. Like i said, i kind of doubt LFL would go that route, but i suppose it's at least a possible ending, even if not a canon one.

Meanwhile, out of curiousity, for those of us that are gamers, are you going to play through the game first, or read the novel and/or comic first? I personally haven't decided myself; it'll probably depend on whether i'm already in the middle of another book, or another game, when it comes out.

The only problem with the "failed redemption" idea would be no chance of a sequel. tongue

I've been wondering what I'll do first myself too. I'll probably play the game first. I expect the story will be greatly expanded on in the book so I'm hoping playing the game won't ruin all of the book whereas the book will almost certainly spoil everything in the game.

However chances are the releases won't all be on exactly the same day so I'll probably just do whatever comes out first. I wanted to watch ROTS before I read the novel but they released that a month early so temptation got in the way there... I'm expecting a similar situation with FU.

 

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Jmacq1  1730 posts
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Date Posted: 9/20/07 7:24am Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
From my understanding, the releases are being pretty closely timed to coincide with each other. With a couple of exceptions (the miniatures, and an electronic lightsaber toy that I can think of offhand), all the media is arriving within just a couple weeks of each other.

But good point on the sequel bit. Then again I'm not entirely certain this game is going to be set up for a direct sequel, unless we're talking a multigenerational tale.

Short of some kind of "Force burnout" it just doesn't seem like the Apprentice can logically survive (in the "canon" ending that is). He's just too powerful to keep around or to explain how/why he completely dropped off the radar forevermore.

 

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Charlemagne19  26817 posts
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Date Posted: 9/20/07 7:44am Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08 - Date Edited: 9/20/07 7:44am (1 edits total) Edited By: Charlemagne19
Jmacq1 posted:

Short of some kind of "Force burnout" it just doesn't seem like the Apprentice can logically survive (in the "canon" ending that is). He's just too powerful to keep around or to explain how/why he completely dropped off the radar forevermore.




Same way that Kyle did. "Secret Apprentice was 'Over there' Somewhere."

It's a big galaxy.

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SephyCloneNo15  6880 posts
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Date Posted: 9/20/07 8:06am Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
Charlemagne19 posted:
SECRET APPRENTICE IS THE MAYOR OF SERENDIPAL!


Contrary to popular belief, we can't rule out Darth Krayt either, although I haven't gotten my hands on Legacy 16 yet.

 

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darth_paul  6673 posts
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Date Posted: 9/20/07 9:24am Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
dgxxx posted:
I think at the end of the game the SA will be redeemed and try to do the right thing thats when you play as Vader to kill him, I´ll like that kind of ending.
I actually think it would be pretty interesting from a construction-of-gameplay standpoint to have a final boss fight where your character was going to die, but had some objective he had to accomplish in the fight before death. It would be an intriguing way to deal with things.

 

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_Catherine_  1038 posts
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Date Posted: 9/20/07 10:44am Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
Maybe I missed the announcement, but I probably wouldn't have understood it anyway, as I'm not much of a gamer. What kind of game is this? I take it it's not an RPG, but having ever played only about five video games in my life, I don't know what other types of games there are that have multiple endings. How are the endings in games like this decided? What level of control do you have over your character's actions/dialogue?

 

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Darth_Shpydar  1061 posts
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Date Posted: 9/20/07 11:59am Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08 - Date Edited: 9/20/07 12:01pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Darth_Shpydar
_Catherine_ posted:
Maybe I missed the announcement, but I probably wouldn't have understood it anyway, as I'm not much of a gamer. What kind of game is this? I take it it's not an RPG, but having ever played only about five video games in my life, I don't know what other types of games there are that have multiple endings. How are the endings in games like this decided? What level of control do you have over your character's actions/dialogue?


It seems to be primarily an action-oriented game, closer to the Revenge of the Sith game than to the KotOR games. Action games are just what they sound like, while RPG games tend to focus on character-building and a more grand scope to the adventure (though over the years, the lines between the action genre and the RPG genre have often become blurred).

I would presume that the differing endings will be a result of the actions you take, much like an old-school "Choose Your Own Adventure" book.

For instance, we know there will be some sort of battle against or involving Shaak Ti. It may be that as that battle progresses, you have a choice to kill her or spare her. Obviously the latter would put you more on a light-side path. Now, assuming the game has a number of choices along these lines, then those choices you make may determine the ending you recieve.

As another example, perhaps you will have to assasinate a corrupt Senator. You may choose to do it hard and fast, full-on Maul-style mowing down everyone in your path, or do it more stealthily, perhaps planting a bomb on the Senator's shuttle.

Or it may be completely different, as action games have often had different endings based on the "stats completion" of the game -- that is, how many items you collected, how many enemies you killed, how many hidden areas you discovered, how quickly you completed the game, etc etc may determine what ending you get.

Hope that clarifies it a bit. peace

 

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LtNOWIS  2481 posts
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Date Posted: 9/20/07 12:21pm Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
Charlemagne19 posted:
LtNOWIS posted:
Charlemagne19 posted:

This is Star Wars. Anti-heroes need not apply.


What about pre-Alliance Han, the subject of 6 novels?


You mean the Han Solo that rescued all those people for free in the Corporate Sector or the Han Solo that rescued Chewbacca from slavery at the cost of his career?

Han's never been particularly altruistic but he's always been on the side of Angels when push comes to shove.


When push comes to shove, sure. But he's primarily a drug runner for that part of his life. He qualifies as an anti-hero.

 

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Havac  14342 posts
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Date Posted: 9/20/07 1:43pm Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
dgxxx posted:
Also anyone knows what is the part of Maris Brood in the story?

Maris Brood will be playing the role of "Gratuitous Boobage".

 

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