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The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08 (No Spoilers)
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Corusca_One
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Oct '05
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2/11/07 9:25pm
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RE: Force Unleashed: Big EU Event of '07
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darth_Boba posted:
Corusca_One posted:
One thing missing from details currently is any hint of non-linear gameplay, choice, or customisation. That can't be good.. Even the characters name is locked in this time i see, while that saves us from having an important character known only as 'The Exile' in canon, its still a tad irritating you won't be able to name the protagonist at all.
Customization does not a good game make. You can dye your hair whatever color you want, but if you've got lice nobody's still going to want to touch it.
I'm not talking about hair dye :P
Its funny, sure JO is considered a superior game to JA, however that is mainly down to game mechanics, and the fact the story itself was not as good. Nothing to do with the fact you made your own character (although Kyle is a much better character than Jaden).
KotOR is a good example of customisation done well, and also its more a case of linearity than customisation. One of the critisisms i have seen leveled at JO's story was that it was impossible to turn dark (unlike JK1 or JKJA) it was more linear. KotOR's success is also an indicator of how much players like to create their own elements to a story, and make their own choices (such as choose dark/light male/female). Its my experience that players prefer sandbox games thesedays rather than being spoon fed a simple story.
What i was highlighting was the fact that at this point there is no indication the player will be able to choose to play as anything other than a male darksided Sith 'Apprentice' and a basic plot to run through, and yes i know there isn't much information out yet, but i'm just making an observation. Personally i'd prefer there to be some form of choice involved in this game.
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Havac
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2/11/07 10:11pm
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Thousands of good games have been made without customization. It's only recently I've noticed this big push to have everything up to the player. Pretty soon the games will be sold with a blank on the box and you fill in whatever name you want the game to have. 
Seriously, though, customization isn't necessary to a good game. In fact, it outright undermines the strength of the story. It might make things a little more fun for gamers, but it's not anywhere near necessary for a good gameplay experience.
It's especially hard when the game needs to work within a continuity like SW, and where the fans have been so rabidly whiny about having any element of those choices solidified into canon. If they can't understand that their personal game can't get put into the Holocron, then better not to give them any choice at all.
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QuentinGeorge
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2/11/07 11:26pm
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I'm not going to say this looks teh ridiculous, but....
This game looks ridiculous.
Why, oh why, must we have continually wanked out games involving Jedi and Sith set in the OT period? For pity's sake, KOTOR has shown that games set in other time periods can work, and we have the 1,000 year period of the New Sith Wars basically empty and begging, BEGGING for some sort of rich, immersive game set there.
But no....let's find the Death Star plans and fight on Hoth again!
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Mayor_Adam_West
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2/12/07 12:31am
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I don't know. the game doesn't look that bad to me. But you get stronger that Vader and the Emperor? That doesn't sound good.
I wont be buying it, unless they have do PC version. I will get that sweet looking black royal guard figure though, and maybe the damaged Vader.
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TIEDefenderPilot
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2/12/07 1:28am
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So are the "clone mod" stormtroopers some sort of anti-Jedi squad or something like that? Because that would be pretty cool.
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2/12/07 4:11am
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Corran_Fett posted:
- The story is set between III and IV and is about Vader's attempts to bring down the Emperor, using an apprentice (you, the player) to fulfill his plans. The reasons for Vader are that he realizes Palps betrayal of dragging him to the Dark Side, but he also realizes that it's too late to change it, so he wants to do everything he can in the underground.
I don't like the sound of this at all...
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- The player starts as a trained Sith, who masters various Force powers (e.g. Force Speed, Force Push, Force Lightning, etc...). It is said that in the progress of the game, you will achieve greater power and grow even stronger than Vader and the Emperor, eventually.
...and it's gonna be considered canon?
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2/12/07 4:47am
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QuentinGeorge posted:
Why, oh why, must we have continually wanked out games involving Jedi and Sith set in the OT period? For pity's sake, KOTOR has shown that games set in other time periods can work, and we have the 1,000 year period of the New Sith Wars basically empty and begging, BEGGING for some sort of rich, immersive game set there.
Agreed.
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Lord_Hydronium
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2/12/07 5:03am
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QuentinGeorge posted:
Why, oh why, must we have continually wanked out games involving Jedi and Sith set in the OT period? For pity's sake, KOTOR has shown that games set in other time periods can work, and we have the 1,000 year period of the New Sith Wars basically empty and begging, BEGGING for some sort of rich, immersive game set there.
While I agree with the principle, I'm not sure this particular game is really a good target of that kind of rant. This isn't something in the OT period that's been hashed out up and down, it's Dark Times, a period that's been established but barely explored for almost 30 years. I mean, I want to see things like NSW explored too, but I have to acknowledge that Dark Times has been around a lot longer and is a lot more anticipated. Wondering why they're focusing on this era seems to me like wondering why the time between AOTC and ROTS had so much of a focus on the Clone Wars.
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darth_Boba
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2/12/07 7:29am
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I'm actually looking forward to this game. Based on the force power preview last year, it looks like it'll have a lot of new and innovative stuff to do with the Force that other games couldn't manage. If the game is fun to play (and cannon-hit force blasts and internally rupturing Rancors sound very fun), then I don't care about continuity. It's not like the real world rips open and destroys itself every time something something doesn't jive in Star Wars land.
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Mike-Sunrider
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This game is going to be the worst SW game ever if you're going to become stronger than Palps and Vader..
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Rouge77
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2/12/07 9:54am
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This game is going to be the worst SW game ever if you're going to become stronger than Palps and Vader..
Not if a)the game is otherwise good and b)they do not make the player character canonically stronger than Sidious or Vader. If there will be a fight in the end between the player character and/or Sidious and Vader, the character has to be powerful. Everything is ok to me as long as that they do not make the character super-powerful outside the game, so that the story is canonical, but the kind of power the character will in the end have will not be.
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2/12/07 10:24am
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This game looks like a lot of fun. But it's stupid plain and simple.
the trailer is on the opening page of theforce.net if anybody hasnt seen it. It carazy! if you could just put your sabre in the ground and kill five stormies, then why didnt ki adi do it?
It in no way fits into continuity and it seems they're going to make a big deal about it as well, adding to the confusion of what canon actualy is nowadays.
oh one other point watch the last guy get thrown about in the trailer it's hillarious, although i'm not sure it is supposed to be?
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Jango_Fettish
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2/12/07 10:38am
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The whole "stronger than Sidious and Vader" thing is pure marketing. If it is true at all. I mean, it seems fairly obvious that Vader is going to kill the playable character at the end, hence his battle damage. I'm sure that will be the ending of the game, Vader killing the guy and washing his hands clean of the whole thing.
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Froggy22651
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2/12/07 11:07am
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Yeah, that's probably just to grab your attention. If it's literal, though...
Well, it could conceivably work if Vader cloned himself to create an apprentice. Somehow, I doubt that's the case.
Yeah, the plot of the game looks...iffy so far, but hey, at least there will be plenty of mindless Force-using fun to be had with really sweet graphics.
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patchworkz7
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2/12/07 11:41am
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younghansolo posted:
This game looks like a lot of fun. But it's stupid plain and simple.
the trailer is on the opening page of theforce.net if anybody hasnt seen it. It carazy! if you could just put your sabre in the ground and kill five stormies, then why didnt ki adi do it?
That trailer looks like gameplay samples and may not be an actual representation of the storyline.
It looks more like it's designed to showcase the mechanics of the game, and it has been around for a while now. I don't know that we've seen a true "trailer" in the sense of "this is what happens in the game" yet.
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