Author Topic: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08 (and beyond?)
Barriss_Coffee  5734 posts
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Date Posted: 9/24/07 4:09pm Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
It might be cool if they could retcon the Secret Apprentice into someone already existing in the EU. There are enough mysterious badguys working for the Empire they could choose from. That way, Vader can whip his ass to show him who's boss, but the character still lives.

It also gives room for sequels...

 

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Arawn_Fenn  10326 posts
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Date Posted: 9/24/07 4:14pm Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
Unfortunately we have to use the "Mace Windu rule" and assume he dies because he's apparently a powerful enough character that he would logically have been included in the events of the OT if he had lived.

Aside from that, my vote is for Vader to shave his head and turn him into Lobot. praying

 

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SephyCloneNo15  6880 posts
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Date Posted: 9/24/07 9:29pm Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
SA will beat Vader. Retcons Ho!

 

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Charlemagne19  26812 posts
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Date Posted: 9/24/07 9:47pm Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
Arawn_Fenn posted:
Unfortunately we have to use the "Mace Windu rule" and assume he dies because he's apparently a powerful enough character that he would logically have been included in the events of the OT if he had lived.


Or he retires on some world with his hot pilot.

 

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GrandAdmiralJello  59900 posts
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Date Posted: 9/24/07 11:40pm Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
Charlemagne19 posted:
Arawn_Fenn posted:
Unfortunately we have to use the "Mace Windu rule" and assume he dies because he's apparently a powerful enough character that he would logically have been included in the events of the OT if he had lived.


Or he retires on some world with his hot pilot.



I thought you hated Core worlders? happy

 

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Jmacq1  1728 posts
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Date Posted: 9/25/07 6:24am Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
SephyCloneNo15 posted:
SA will beat Vader. Retcons Ho!


Probably so, I'm afraid, or at least is going to score some serious measure of "victory" against him. Because no good game designer is going to have you play through this whole game just so you can get your butt completely kicked at the end, and I think it unlikely that they're suddenly going to shift and let you play Vader for the last level of the game (though I wouldn't be surprised if you "unlock" Vader is a character model after you beat the game or something).

Not to mention there's that whole "battle damaged Vader" figure that's coming out as part of the Force Unleashed figure line. Either Vader's getting spanked, or the SA is going to give him the fight of his life. I still think the "Throne Room Duel" scenario is the most likely one for the "canon" ending.

Charlemagne19 posted:
Arawn_Fenn posted:
Unfortunately we have to use the "Mace Windu rule" and assume he dies because he's apparently a powerful enough character that he would logically have been included in the events of the OT if he had lived.


Or he retires on some world with his hot pilot.



This is another possibility, though it also requires that Vader suffers a defeat at the hands of his apprentice (one way or another). And then begs the question: Why hasn't he shown up since (in the greater EU)? Though of course it's not as if Lucasfilm/arts/books has ever had any qualms about retconning characters into later time periods one way or another.

 

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Aragorn327  10325 posts
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Date Posted: 9/25/07 7:47am Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08 - Date Edited: 9/25/07 7:48am (1 edits total) Edited By: Aragorn327
No doubt an ending will involve a fight with Vader, but I doubt it'll be the canon one.

Perhaps the surviving Jedi of the time attempt to zerg Vader? Final fight could be Vader and the SA, side by side, cleaving down some tough Jedi or somesuchness, then some sort of Dash Render exit into obscurity.

 

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Jmacq1  1728 posts
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Date Posted: 9/25/07 9:13am Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
Again unlikely. If he's helping Vader kill the last remaining Jedi by the end of the game (bearing in mind we've been told the theme of the game is "Redemption") he has no reason to go into hiding, really.

In other words, if he's in a state where he needs to go into hiding, then he wouldn't have a logical motive for preventing Vader from being killed.

And Vader would have even less reason to allow the Apprentice to walk off into the sunset unscathed, unless of course they really want to make him out to be a touch-feely wuss. And downplay the fact that this "force wrecking ball" who's supposedly trained solely for destruction is somehow also trained to hide his Force power on a level that pretty much equals Palpatine's.

Any "still loyal to Vader" ending is almost certainly not going to be canon (unless it's the Emperor that kills the SA, which I think is a likely prospect).

I'm definitely curious though, to see how many alternate endings there actually are. For all we know, there's only "Light Side" and "Dark Side."

 

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Ulicus  7359 posts
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Date Posted: 9/25/07 5:25pm Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
I too worry that this game will contribute to the continuing wussification of Vader. worried

Any fun I have as the Secret Apprentice throughout the game will be TOTALLY nullified if he is able to give Vader a beatdown... or even a considerable, hell, even a SLIGHT run for his money. It's bad enough that he's farming out the Jedi hunting to be honest.

The scenario Jello proposed is the most preferable but, of course, they'll be going for the "average gamer" - the kind of person who can only have fun if his character kicks the ass of all the established ones. angry

 

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Jeff_Ferguson  1665 posts
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Date Posted: 9/25/07 6:00pm Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
You guys have it all wrong. The Secret Apprentice will kill Vader, just as Anakin did to Dooku in that game boy game, and it will be canonized first as a clone of Vader (as referenced in an upcoming OT novel being written by Sean Stewart), and then retconned into being a Force Doppelganger by Abel G. Pena.

 

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Master_Starwalker  17414 posts
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Date Posted: 9/25/07 6:06pm Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
Ulicus posted:
I too worry that this game will contribute to the continuing wussification of Vader. worried

Any fun I have as the Secret Apprentice throughout the game will be TOTALLY nullified if he is able to give Vader a beatdown... or even a considerable, hell, even a SLIGHT run for his money. It's bad enough that he's farming out the Jedi hunting to be honest.

The scenario Jello proposed is the most preferable but, of course, they'll be going for the "average gamer" - the kind of person who can only have fun if his character kicks the ass of all the established ones. angry


Yeah, given the action figure of Vader with incredibly heavy battle damage you may be right that this will be another step in wussifying Vader.

 

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Ulicus  7359 posts
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Date Posted: 9/25/07 6:34pm Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
Master_Starwalker posted:


Yeah, given the action figure of Vader with incredibly heavy battle damage you may be right that this will be another step in wussifying Vader.



Of course, this is easily fixed.

*The Secret Apprentice beats down Vader, giving him incredible battle damage and then lopping off his head... only for it to roll towards the boot of none other than DARTH VADER*
Darth Vader: *Sigh* I was rather fond of Daarth Vader.

 

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Aragorn327  10325 posts
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Date Posted: 9/25/07 7:31pm Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
Ulicus posted:
*The Secret Apprentice beats down Vader, giving him incredible battle damage and then lopping off his head... only for it to roll towards the boot of none other than DARTH VADER*
Darth Vader: *Sigh* I was rather fond of Daarth Vader.



Best. Ever.

 

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Charlemagne19  26812 posts
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Date Posted: 9/25/07 7:43pm Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
Uhhhh....

They're going for, pretty clearly:

Palpatine
Yoda
Vader
Mace Windu
Obi Wan
Luke
Secret Apprentice (and arguably just barely)

Everyone else in Star Wars history but maybe Revan.

 

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Jeff_Ferguson  1665 posts
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Date Posted: 9/25/07 9:18pm Subject: RE: The Force Unleashed: The Multimedia EU Event of '08
Kyle?

 

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